That's exactly the point I was trying to get across with my post, earlier in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Misawa
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That's exactly the point I was trying to get across with my post, earlier in this thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Misawa
Right so the thread is about "Unprofessional Moderation". It's generally agreed that unprofessional is the wrong word, however I think we all understand what the forum member is putting across. Then in the middle of this thread we have two staff members bickering. Admittedly not forum staff yet it still speaks volumes.
I'm glad that the Forum Manager and the moderators are finally acknowledging they've been in the wrong and are trying to change their ways. I'm glad about this yet there is still a lot of room for improvement and I still think he needs to get tougher with staff and dismiss some of them. However, that's just my opinion and I have the decency to respect his (something staff could learn about - respecting others) even if they are contrasting to mine.
So when two members of staff are discussing points it is bickering? There is no gag order on staff - you would be the first to complain if there were, Jake. Hobjob is entitled to his opinion on interpreting the rules as I am entitled to mine but I am not going to sit back while somebody makes wrong assumptions, for whatever, reason, about one of my managers when they don't deserve it as I see it. I pulled out of the discussion when I started to get angry - if I hadn't you would have a point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Immenseman
Well when you're accusing each other of breaking the rules. Having to apologise and having to leave the thread because you get angry. I don't see that as healthy discussion. You can't say staff can act like members because members aren't representing Habbox, staff are. Throughout this thread, I don't think staff members have represented Habbox very well. Not just you but quite a few people. It's been mentioned by two others throughout this thread also so it isn't just me who has noticed it.
Well I will have to agree to diagree with you here I am afraid. I didn't apologise I stated why I was leaving it. Strong debate of a subject has always been allowed and staff have every right to put across their point - I didn't accuse him of breaking the rules. It was a discussion on interpretation of the rules which happens daily. If it had been a member and a member of staff it would have been no different. I believe the thread has been dealt with on its merits - I am sure Mint would perhaps like to come back and comment?Quote:
Originally Posted by Immenseman
That's why staff members have had to retract statements and two of the three I can think of have apologised in the thread for being in the wrong. Even they admit it so I'm not 100% sure why you're sticking up for them when they've already apologised for their misconduct. Nothing major, granted. Still not setting a good example.
I'm sure he will reply as and when he's online.
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Originally Posted by Immenseman
Excuse me? I was supporting Ben who was not in the wrong as far as I could see. This thread was about something could have just been reported and the mistake has been since time immemorial. Everyone at some time has forgotten to remove quotes usually because they are busy elsewhere. I do not think this thread was about your recent experiences, Jake.
He wasn't in the wrong yet he apologised? I never said the thread was about my experiences, you just think I'm complaining due to my personal experiences which I find quite rude. I want the moderation to improve for the whole of Habbox and you should feel the same.
I know this thread isn't necessary highlighting the frailties of the department but it's just yet another example, of which there are many, on how sloppy the moderation has slumped to.
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Originally Posted by dogboy123
The first quote is what he said - he is not saying he is in the wrong he is saying if the other member interpreted it as rude he is sorry. There is a great deal of difference. I wasn't supporting this as it happens. I was supported his right to state his opinion when some were saying that he didn't have the right because he was staff and shouldn't be seen to have an opposing view to somebody higher. The second example was somebody saying that he only posted because I was his boss and shouldn't have a view because he didn't post in a particular area of the forum basically. :S This is complete nonsense as far as I am concerned and he didn't deserve it and staff should not have to take it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Immenseman
Well you might find it rude but I actually found it rude that your post implied that I was supporting the recent infraction given to you and you well know I didn't but that has been dealt with and discussed very thoroughly already on here. Of course I am keen to see fair moderation for everybody and I am quite offended that you even have to say 'you should feel the same'. I am glad you agree that the thread wasn't necessary and the point could have been made in one of the other moderation threads or simply reported.Quote:
I know this thread isn't necessary highlighting the frailties of the department but it's just yet another example, of which there are many, on how sloppy the moderation has slumped to.
Wow this thread has certainly been an interesting read! So as not to fuel the argument any more I won't name names or anything but I think some of the conduct in this thread from staff has been appalling, maybe worthy of MAD himself :P I'll be putting together some sort of PM for nvr and I hope to God it doesn't continue because staff have traditionally been the calm, professional ones with the members traditionally being the ones fuelling offtopic arguments and stuff! I trust nvr will sort it though :)
Just to get back on topic, I seem to remember the issue of not checking quotes was brought up a while back (I think I suggested making it a rule that you couldn't quote rulebreaking posts but it was quickly shot down :P) so its a bit disappointing that it's still happening but if Matt says he's sorting stuff out I think we should give him a grace period and see how things are in a week or two!