Originally Posted by
-:Undertaker:-
The Conservative Party is no longer conservative at all in nature, although i'd like to point out that the majority of the British public want out of the European Union despite what the main parties may think (because a lot of people from the main parties, especially the Labour Party, go on to have nice gold-plated jobs within the European Union; Mandelson, Kinnocks and so on).
The point on immigration if fairly straightforward and simple yet as usual you (the left) attempt to portray me and UKIP (the right in general) of being totally against immigration - well you are wrong. Although you can turn around and stop immigration fully (a sovereign state has that power if it wished to do so) that would be working against yourself as immigration does help the economy, the point however which the left just refuses to grasp is that we need controls over immigration so that we only allow those whom we need/who are not criminals into the country. Infact you yourself have now flip flopped, first you started off with saying you support a tougher immigartipn policy that Laboyur are apparently implementing and now you are saying that controlling immigration is madness - one or the other, which is it?
The European Union - nobody is saying lets stop trading with Europe therefore no jobs would be lost - that is a total and utter lie spun by the main parties who attempt to fight popular opinion with that message. The cost on British business each each from our European Union membership and the regulations that come from it every single day are over £100 billion per year. That is not good for trade and neither is the European Union free trade, it is a secular trade bloc which is a small and declining part of the world and it would be far better for us to return to trading with our Commonwealth friends more (if you wish for us to stay within trade blocs) because nations like India are within the Commonwealth which within a few years, may even surpass the strength of the entire European economy put together.
Trade with Europe, yes.
Friends with Europe, yes.
Ruled by Europe, no.
Because they earned it.
Why do some people need a big back garden? - lets take it away from them.
Why do some people have a nice living room? - lets take it away from them.
Why do some people have a nicer car than others do? - lets take it away from them.
In other words its jealously, its because its theirs and not yours to take away from them - they earned it, you didnt therefore its their right to choose what to do with it. The rich provide the poor with jobs and without the rich, you would not have jobs and thus the poor would be made poorer and plunged into more poverty. Please just take a look at history at nations which tried socialism and failed, including our very own. In the 1970s that system did come into play and with other contributing factors, it destroyed the economy. The basic principle of what you have just told me is the same principle that the North Korean economy is ran on - and look at the state of it.
