10.11.10 - Demolition.

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Originally Posted by Inseriousity.

The vast majority went to protest; a small group of nutters went to riot.
Don't think it'll prove any stereotypes really... but it'll help the papers with their stories!!

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specific papers anyway ;)

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Originally Posted by immense

and the last, lets be honest. what was the general vibe? any humorous chants? any fit guys?

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General vibe was "Lets all hate on Clegg and Cameron" and then "Lets smash Camerons things". Same old chants from other protests. The highlight of which is this song:
"Build a bonfire, build a bonfire and put the tories on top,
put the lib dems in the middle and burn the ******* lot".

No fit guys ffs :(

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Originally Posted by immense

The president of the NUS has condemned this and the people inside have been described as "old-school anarchists" - not students. However, conflict of reports - some people are saying it was a mix. Either way, this wasn't planned, people just used this march whose aim it was to prove a point about the brain-dead ideas of the coalition to get away with what they wanted to do.

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If the Lib Dems said they wouldn't raise fees then people should have every right to a protest, but I think the whole point of the march has been lost. What was once students demonstrating their anger at fees has turned into everyone and their cousins siezing the opportunity to bash the government.

How ironic that the hooded characters starting fires would probably have no chance getting into a University anyway. Old school anarchist is exactly right :P

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Originally Posted by Inseriousity.

Don't think it'll prove any stereotypes really... but it'll help the papers with their stories!!

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Haha, they'll have a field day with this one :P

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Originally Posted by MrPinkPanther

"Build a bonfire, build a bonfire and put the tories on top,
put the lib dems in the middle and burn the ******* lot".

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Love it.

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Originally Posted by MrPinkPanther

General vibe was "Lets all hate on Clegg and Cameron" and then "Lets smash Camerons things". Same old chants from other protests. The highlight of which is this song:
"Build a bonfire, build a bonfire and put the tories on top,
put the lib dems in the middle and burn the ******* lot".

No fit guys ffs :(

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Sounds perfect really apart from the lack of fitties.

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Originally Posted by Mathew

If the Lib Dems said they wouldn't raise fees then people should have every right to a protest, but I think the whole point of the march has been lost. What was once students demonstrating their anger at fees has turned into everyone and their cousins siezing the opportunity to bash the government.

How ironic that the hooded characters starting fires would probably have no chance getting into a University anyway. Old school anarchist is exactly right :P

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We live in the UK. The Government will always be bashed although most people won't bash the party they support. I would. I don't think the Iraq War was the right thing to do but then again I'm only saying that with hindsight and didn't have an opinion on it at the time :P Living in this democratic society people have every right to protest. What angers me is that the Lib Dems really went for the student vote and so many students did vote Lib Dem and it is disgusting how they've gone back on their pledge. They have effectively ruined their party, Clegg, seen as a saviour has ruined the party for years to come and I'm glad. Scum. I feel sick that I voted them.

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Originally Posted by immense

We live in the UK. The Government will always be bashed although most people won't bash the party they support. I would. I don't think the Iraq War was the right thing to do but then again I'm only saying that with hindsight and didn't have an opinion on it at the time :P Living in this democratic society people have every right to protest. What angers me is that the Lib Dems really went for the student vote and so many students did vote Lib Dem and it is disgusting how they've gone back on their pledge. They have effectively ruined their party, Clegg, seen as a saviour has ruined the party for years to come and I'm glad. Scum. I feel sick that I voted them.

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But you have no problem with the fact that Labour also lied regarding tuition fees?

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

But you have no problem with the fact that Labour also lied regarding tuition fees?

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Two years is a long time. Are you happy that UKIP want to control what British citizens wear in public?

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Originally Posted by immense

Two years is a long time. Are you happy that UKIP want to control what British citizens wear in public?

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Two years isn't a long time, you aren't angry at all about this issue - your just angry because its the group you don't like who are doing it.

As for UKIP and the burka ban, i've changed position on that - I disagree with it if they propose a outright ban via the law. If it were to be a specific law then i'd be against it but as I understand it, they don't propose that it would be a specific law - they would just allow the option to be there. I support the stance though, that should a private entity or public for that matter wish to ban the burka on their premises - they would be allowed to do so. That is the policy as I understand it. If UKIP were to get in and acted in the same way as the current lot do then i'd criticise UKIP just as much as I criticise the Lib/Lab/Con. But at least with them we'd be suprised if they backstabbed us, rather than voting in people we know are proven liars.

As the saying goes; Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

After seeing what some of the thugs at the protest were doing I am sort of on the fence whether fees should be cut :l

I totally understand that not everyone was causing damage etc, but the people that were would have been better off with a bullet in their head.

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Originally Posted by Mathew

How ironic that the hooded characters starting fires would probably have no chance getting into a University anyway. Old school anarchist is exactly right :P

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They're probably the type who do do these pointless courses at modern 'vocational' unis. The amount who missed out on a uni place this year was well over 200,000, over 4 times as many people who were at this protest. The government and schools need to make it clear that uni isn't for everyone and different options are available, otherwise figures will rise and you'll have top unis rejecting British students in favour of overseas ones who are willing to pay well over these fees and ever increasing fees for British students to fill the blackhole of funds being caused by too many unis, too many courses and too many students.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

Two years isn't a long time, you aren't angry at all about this issue - your just angry because its the group you don't like who are doing it.

As for UKIP and the burka ban, i've changed position on that - I disagree with it if they propose a outright ban via the law. If it were to be a specific law then i'd be against it but as I understand it, they don't propose that it would be a specific law - they would just allow the option to be there. I support the stance though, that should a private entity or public for that matter wish to ban the burka on their premises - they would be allowed to do so. That is the policy as I understand it. If UKIP were to get in and acted in the same way as the current lot do then i'd criticise UKIP just as much as I criticise the Lib/Lab/Con. But at least with them we'd be suprised if they backstabbed us, rather than voting in people we know are proven liars.

As the saying goes; Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

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That isn't true at all. If you had actually read my posts in this thread you will see I am angry at the lib dems. But just to let you simmer down, the difference between labour and the tories is that labour doesn't want certain groups to fill in for losses. It would have been far more blanket and therefore fair. Seeing as the cost is 3290 at the moment perhaps they could have increased. However, increasing fees and then cutting spending by 100% in some subjects is something labour would never do. Get. that. in. your. skull. and. stop. with. the. crap. that. labour. and. the. tories. are. the. same.

I am angry because I voted lib-dem and they have gone back on arguably their biggest policy. You could get any sort of crazily stupid parties i.e. UKIP in power if you were to lie your way in. You need to stop your pointless rhetorical arguments on here because you offer **** all new and people are sick of replying to you. It would be fine if you didn't ram across the same message.

Lets get one thing straight, UKIP will never be running Britain.