Otaku closed down

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

I guess it depends on what you class as too far. If someone ignored a number of notices to take down whatever you were doing. Then you have to take a step forward and take more drastic actions which is what has happened.

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Yeah, but taking their cars.. I don't know, they could find a midterm. S:

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Originally Posted by LiquidLuck.

Yeah, but taking their cars.. I don't know, they could find a midterm. S:

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He's gained thousands of pounds from selling something that wasn't his, not many ways Sulake can get the money back...

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Originally Posted by Abdicators

As he lives in Bulgaria it's an easy assumption. I do agree though that when he asked for translation help, that it was very harsh to say "do it yourself".

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It is also harsh to steal what a company has developed for over a decade and re-sell it cheaply.

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Originally Posted by e5

Never even heard of Otaku so no loss for me. 500k is a bit much though.

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Not really. Sulake will work out the spending of an average Habbo user, times it by the number of users his retros got and add interest lost on that money.
Then when they win, they will claim their legal costs too - so as insurance, they took his car.

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Originally Posted by Pigperson

It's a bit late to be taking action now, retros have been around for years.

Will

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Never too late. Gotta start sometime.

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Originally Posted by LiquidLuck.

Yeah, but taking their cars.. I don't know, they could find a midterm. S:

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Then when they win, they will claim their legal costs too - so as insurance, they took his car.

Btw, can someone explain how these retros worked? How do they manage to copy thousands of Sulake files which are most likely needed to run the retros?

Bit silly since most users that use retro's also use Habbo and wouldn't necessarily purchase coins.

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Originally Posted by Since

It is also harsh to steal what a company has developed for over a decade and re-sell it cheaply.



Not really. Sulake will work out the spending of an average Habbo user, times it by the number of users his retros got and add interest lost on that money.
Then when they win, they will claim their legal costs too - so as insurance, they took his car.



Never too late. Gotta start sometime.



Then when they win, they will claim their legal costs too - so as insurance, they took his car.

Btw, can someone explain how these retros worked? How do they manage to copy thousands of Sulake files which are most likely needed to run the retros?

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Originally Posted by October

It's interesting seeing this happening now rather than before. Is it because more people are using retros now? If so then Sulake should take a look at what they're doing wrong on their own servers.

Which hotel was it that had a retro with more active users than the real hotel did?

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.no, .se and .dk :) Im on .no, and the norwegian retro has twice as many online. Sometimes three times as many.
Sad but true....

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Originally Posted by e5

Bit silly since most users that use retro's also use Habbo and wouldn't necessarily purchase coins.

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For Sulake it matters very little if the users use both the retro and the real Habbo. This is just how they will calculate the loss of damages as it is the more appropriate way.

If anyone has any Habbo retros and doesn't immediately shut them down because they will get more users due to this big one shutting are idiots. Short term gain, long term loss for retro owners.

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Originally Posted by GommeInc

Hopefully Sulake are learning lessons from retros - if Habbo was a successful brand then these sorts of things wouldn't exist in such large numbers and be so popular. They ought to take this as a warning that maybe they should look inwards at why people are more interested in using retros and adapt their services accordingly. There's no doubt that this all links together with their poor service and dodgy version builds in recent years.

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I disagree. Using a fairly recent example: Minecraft was being pirated during it's alpha stage so this has nothing to do with 'big company mentality'.

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Originally Posted by Kardan

He's gained thousands of pounds from selling something that wasn't his, not many ways Sulake can get the money back...

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But how do you win so much owning a retro? Like it was said, most people that use retros do it also because of the free coins they give. They won't purchase coins.. I understand they are probably taking profit from Sulake, but I can't see how they can get profit from having a retro..

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Originally Posted by Since

Then when they win, they will claim their legal costs too - so as insurance, they took his car.

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Not really as insurance, or will they give it back..?

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Originally Posted by LiquidLuck.

But how do you win so much owning a retro? Like it was said, most people that use retros do it also because of the free coins they give. They won't purchase coins.. I understand they are probably taking profit from Sulake, but I can't see how they can get profit from having a retro..



Not really as insurance, or will they give it back..?

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Profit from potential adverts etc. Basically they are claiming for loss of earnings and breach of copyright. They must have presented a strong case to a Judge to have him/her agree to freeze his assets/hand them over. It's done so the defendant can't make himself bankrupt before/during the case as this would mean that he would have nothing to give to Sulake if they win - which means they lose heavily overall (legal costs which they won't be able to recover which are expensive!). So the car - and possibly house if they come after it - will be used as insurance.

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Originally Posted by LiquidLuck.

But how do you win so much owning a retro? Like it was said, most people that use retros do it also because of the free coins they give. They won't purchase coins.. I understand they are probably taking profit from Sulake, but I can't see how they can get profit from having a retro..



Not really as insurance, or will they give it back..?

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They won't give it back, it's called ceasing assets and they're legally entitled to do so. Also, people do sell credits on retros that's how they make money. Or 'rares'.