Is comitting suicide a selfish act?

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Originally Posted by Payasam

In fairness, if this idea was applied to every topic the only forum that would have more than 5* users in would be the habbo one lol

*five = exaggeration

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What I'm referring to is "think of the families, thing of these people, those people", "grow a pair" type of comments. Just go to the thread I linked and you'll know what I'm talking about. I think they were a little too far and I found them offensive

it is selfish in a sense that you leave the remaining problems all to your loved ones. and not selfish in a sense that you finally can put down and leave everything.

it's selfish by definition only. in the end everybody has a right to do as they please with their own lives and no one really has any right to say otherwise. I pretty much believe in live and let live as long as you do not cause intentional or direct harm to others in doing so (and before anyone says anything about how suicide hurts loved ones, I don't think people commit suicide thinking "I can't wait to make my mum cry!").

people who consider committing suicide are likely suffering extreme emotional pain that they can see no end to, and no other person is in any rightful place to judge them for their actions or thoughts, especially if they have never been in such a position themselves. a suicidal state is a state of total delusion and darkness where one believes that there is nothing left in the world to live for and that it would be easier if they simply ceased to exist. this idea might sound ridiculous to those of completely sound mind and emotion, but it's a very real and very scary prospect that preys on the minds of many who just cannot deal with life anymore. it's an extremely sad thing, because there is ALWAYS something to live for and there is ALWAYS at least a chance that things will get better, but not everybody can be convinced of that.

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Originally Posted by ComaDivine

it's selfish by definition only. in the end everybody has a right to do as they please with their own lives and no one really has any right to say otherwise. I pretty much believe in live and let live as long as you do not cause intentional or direct harm to others in doing so (and before anyone says anything about how suicide hurts loved ones, I don't think people commit suicide thinking "I can't wait to make my mum cry!").

people who consider committing suicide are likely suffering extreme emotional pain that they can see no end to, and no other person is in any rightful place to judge them for their actions or thoughts, especially if they have never been in such a position themselves. a suicidal state is a state of total delusion and darkness where one believes that there is nothing left in the world to live for and that it would be easier if they simply ceased to exist. this idea might sound ridiculous to those of completely sound mind and emotion, but it's a very real and very scary prospect that preys on the minds of many who just cannot deal with life anymore. it's an extremely sad thing, because there is ALWAYS something to live for and there is ALWAYS at least a chance that things will get better, but not everybody can be convinced of that.

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completely agree. + I get rly sick of people saying think about your family, if they thought about me I wouldn't have 90% of the problems that caused me depression.. even now that ive mostly recovered, the only problem in my life that can push me into suicidal tendencies is members of my family, especially 1. so im sick of hearing this crap about families going to be distraught, not every family care and love each other + if they do, they should show it when they're alive not dead.