No Events?!?

It's very good of you to be point out other fansites doing better than us, in terms of room population, but you're not exactly suggesting any new ideas other than the fact you think events should be scrapped. As you said before about our current rules and regulations, what do you mean by that.

The Community Notice Board, the room promotions, the room names, the invites to friends and posting on the panel on habbox.com are all forms of advertising so that we get more people into our rooms. I'm pretty sure the other fansites would be doing exactly the same and advertising their forum to increase site traffic. We are doing the same as all other fansites and all you are critiquing is the fact they have more in their rooms than us.

In the event you screenied, what faniste is even hosting that event. It has so many different fansite names in it that it's hard to even tell who its being run by. How do you know the people in that event aren't all staff playing the event? They could well be? Also pointing out again the fact that we actually have 11 events hosts at the moment and that a lot of people are posted away. Snaphabbo has 27 events staff, HFFM, like us, has 4 events booked for today, and ThisHabbo has 80 staff members under their Events Staff list.

I fail to see how this thread is still going when there's our answer. I know you are saying that advertising events needs to be done more to get more organisers to join but comparing ourselves to other fansite events really does yourself no favours tbh.

Removing events would be a dumb move. You have to have a manager who works hard on their events team. The blame finger must always be pointed at the manager if their team is doing nothing to create events for the day.

ban bingo and other dice games first OF ALL

also most event rooms are poorly designed and hurried up with uninterested and bored hosts and other staff sitting in the vip section also showing no interest

also prizes are mostly crap, last time i went to a habbox event i won some freeze tiles. The fansite great.la which was from Habbo Singapore and closed a few years ago always gave 5 credits as a prize for every competition, event as well as the competitions on the radio. If you can give credits as a prize for forum competitions I don't see a problem with events? great.la was immensely popular with 40+ people in every event of theirs. They also used to have wired tournaments, mazes and unique games

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

9pm. You didn't need anything in this post other than the first two words

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What's with the hffm obsession...they're not a great fansite....nor are the events up to mark. Just their users seem to be more than Habbox's. Stop copying them as they are not doing a good job either, their events are sloppy and boring. Your excuse of "we're doing the same things they do" doesn't really work imo

Improve the standard of your event rooms and your hosting maybe then you'll gain some popularity lol

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Originally Posted by Lanyon

Removing events would be a dumb move. You have to have a manager who works hard on their events team. The blame finger must always be pointed at the manager if their team is doing nothing to create events for the day.

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No no no no. The manager could be doing all they can to improve the department but if the staff just don't do anything, there isn't much the manager can do about it.

In a job, if your boss tells you to do something, you can ignore them. But you don't. Because you need that job to get a wage and live. The reason I said that? At Habbox, there is no such threat. If you get removed, so what? Not like you will loose your house or whatever.

Now I'm not suggesting every staff member does / should have this attitude but it's a point. I think this thread should be left, give @Mk,; the opportunity to work with the department for a month or two then re-evaluate how events is doing.

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Originally Posted by Calum0812

No no no no. The manager could be doing all they can to improve the department but if the staff just don't do anything, there isn't much the manager can do about it.

In a job, if your boss tells you to do something, you can ignore them. But you don't. Because you need that job to get a wage and live. The reason I said that? At Habbox, there is no such threat. If you get removed, so what? Not like you will loose your house or whatever.

Now I'm not suggesting every staff member does / should have this attitude but it's a point. I think this thread should be left, give @Mk,; the opportunity to work with the department for a month or two then re-evaluate how events is doing.

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It IS the manager's fault if they don't act on staff doing nothing. Managers should be able to fire people for inactivity rather than waiting for people to leave.

I feel like we're recycling managers until we get one that will finally do something (Good luck to you @Mk,; - You've probably got the hardest job on Habbox right now).
@mdport.; - No fansite is hosting that event, it's simply a normal Habbo hosting the event - they want to be popular, so they've just put all good fansites in their room name to steal all the players looking for that fansite's events - and it works! And it also means there can't be any 'staff' in the event, and it was already mentioned there were only 2 people in the host area. The host and a friend, no staff hanging around chatting!
@Purfles; you need to stop blaming other people for how crap the events department is at the moment. Instead of posting something like 'Hopefully the department will improve now under a new manager', you say there's no point in complaining because it gets nowhere. Well, I'd say the complaining has got us two different managers in a month, that's certainly somewhere. It also brings the events department to the attention of general management, so the community AGM can focus her attention where it's needed. Nobody complains about HxL, because it works just fine.

Throughout these various 'Events is crap' thread, I've stated what I think needs to change, hopefully with a new manager (again) the department might look into these things:

Removal of AFK/VIP area. There's no need for it, it promotes people idling around in the room doing nothing. People come to a half full Habbox event, to see only 1 person in the queue and the rest just sleeping in a corner - and it's usually Habbox staff. If you want people to come into an event room, and not leave straight the way, there always needs to be a game in progress, not people standing around doing nothing. Event staff, as part of their job role, should be playing the events (except the host of course), not standing around the room doing nothing. If people want to socialise, go to HxHD.

Removal of reputation. It pretty much does nothing these days with the inclusion of a token prize. When a noob wins an event and asks what reputation is, I've NEVER seen an event host explain properly what it is, the best you get is "It's reputation on habboxforum.com, sign up!" which leaves you asking the question "So what is reputation?". Reputation on the forum shouldn't be influenced by how good at rolling a RNG you are. It's also a lot easier to say 'Furni or Tokens?' and when asked what tokens are, say 'You can exchange them for Habbo credits on habboxforum.com, sign up!' - a lot better than reputation.

Relaxing event hosting times - This needs to be done both ways. If we have a full event, why kick people out after an hour? Let it go for however long the host feels like hosting (heck, if its a group room, try and promote another EO taking over host duties). On the other hand, if an event has a few people in and it's about 10:50, move people along to the next event already, try and get people in the event before it starts so we don't have the usual problem of waiting until 20 past the hour for enough people to start a game. This also includes multiple hosts in the same 'slot' if there's enough demand.

Removal of crap events - Stop the bingo, please. It's awful. It's not doing the department any favours. If I were in charge, I'd have people post after their 'slot' how full the room got at its peak, maybe with a screenshot for proof. And then after a few weeks consideration, I'd ban the events that had the lowest turn out, and sort of have a rota of allowed events. So for example, 1st Jan - 14th Jan: Bingo and Get the Carrot banned. 14th Jan - 28th Jan: Bingo and Get the Carrot allowed (to see if numbers improve), Add It Up banned. Of course, you need to be flexible. If no events did badly, keep them all. If Bingo is doing badly every other fortnight - just get rid of it altogether.

Removal of crap furniture prizes - This will of course be hard to implement, but at the end of the day, it's simple. You host an event saying WIN 5C, you'll get a lot more people than the usual events when you win a prize worth less than 1c.

Removal of 'Best Host wins 300c' - It was essentially a one-way competition, once one host was already far ahead in hours hosted, and everybody else couldn't catch up, the competition was effectively over and hosts didn't care about hosting more than usual to reach the prize. Instead, encourage consistency from event hosts. The current minimum is what, 3 hours per week? That's pretty low already, but offer some sort of incentive if they reach say, 6 hours a week for a few weeks. That would double the amount of minimum events already. And let's say every week after that initial start period they hit 6 hours a week, they get another reward. We want to keep event hosts hosting, not try and get 1 host hosting a lot, and then everybody goes back to minimums:

So for example: Week 1, Week 2, Week 3, Week 4*, Week 5*, Week 6*, Week 7**, Week 8** etc... (No rewards for initial weeks, * Good reward for hitting 6 hours a week from Week 1 to Week 4, 5, 6, ** Better reward for hitting 6 hours a week from Week 1 to Week 7, 8, 9 etc) - And lets say an EO breaks their streak of how many weeks they hit 6 hours a week, they start back at week 1. So if they want to reach the higher tier prizes, they have to be consistent each week. Of course, be fluid, if so many people are hitting that target (Thank the lord if that happens), up the limit.

These ideas have been talked about so many times in these sorts of threads, but the managers usually come out with 'We've taken your feedback into consideration', but then changed nothing. And most of the event organisers also seem to blame everyone but themselves.

As I said earlier, @Mk,; is the new manager now, and hopefully he isn't afraid of making changes, because it's what the department needs. Things need to be changed, and if they don't work, change it back, at least you gave it a go. We need a complete overhaul of the events department if it wants to be any good. Good luck Mk,.

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Originally Posted by Purfles

Ever heard the phrase actions speak louder than words?

How about instead of complaining and being all sassy, you make your own little event room (I am willing to lend the furniture if it's a group room) and you apply for events and you help us out as well. Saying nothing gets done is pointless really. There are people who host, like shoned, tyler, cassie, and other people from different time zones that I don't really keep up with.

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Because I am not an event host and have no desire to be. That has absolutely no bearing on anything I've said and your weak argument is like saying you can't complain about taxes unless you're an MP or can't support a football team unless you play for them. All you've said in here is IT'S NOT MY FAULT IT'S THE FAULT OF EVERYONE BUT ME and may I point out again that I've been to Hx events more recently than you at the moment so your actions speak louder than words rhetoric doesn't really make any sense.

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Originally Posted by mdport.

It's very good of you to be point out other fansites doing better than us, in terms of room population, but you're not exactly suggesting any new ideas other than the fact you think events should be scrapped.

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Someone obviously doesn't read feedback very often...

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Originally Posted by mdport.

As you said before about our current rules and regulations, what do you mean by that.
The Community Notice Board, the room promotions, the room names, the invites to friends and posting on the panel on habbox.com are all forms of advertising so that we get more people into our rooms. I'm pretty sure the other fansites would be doing exactly the same and advertising their forum to increase site traffic. We are doing the same as all other fansites and all you are critiquing is the fact they have more in their rooms than us.

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Room promotions are obviously necessary, not disputing that. Room names ought to have the event name stated first since that's what people are looking for and not [HABBOX][CASSIEEIE][INVITE PLS][dont get a carrot] but aren't that huge a deal. CNBs are not much of an advertisement since the only people who will see them are already on HxF and therefore likely part of the community anyway, and people from here who want events know how to look for them anyway since all you have to do is follow the gaggle of hosts who go to events and dance. That makes it a waste of time and space but the real problem is in the way that events are limited to one hour on the hour regardless of anything else that might be going on - more often than not the games don't start until 20 past because no-one turns up at first, and then there are a couple of rounds of the same people playing, the room builds up popularity aaaaaaand "sorry guys event is over! search hxhd!!!" when there are finally people queueing to play. We literally throw away free advertising just because for some reason it's believed that fun and games should have time limits

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Originally Posted by mdport.

In the event you screenied, what faniste is even hosting that event. It has so many different fansite names in it that it's hard to even tell who its being run by. How do you know the people in that event aren't all staff playing the event? They could well be?

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No fansite at all, that was the point. I went there and checked it out because I thought it was hilarious having all those fansite names in the title, and found that no-one there actually cared who was hosting as long as the game was running and the host wasn't busy being HiiLaRiiouS with his chums instead of hosting. It was one guy and his friend, the rest of the room was an assortment of people who just wanted to play bingo

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Originally Posted by mdport.

Also pointing out again the fact that we actually have 11 events hosts at the moment and that a lot of people are posted away. Snaphabbo has 27 events staff, HFFM, like us, has 4 events booked for today, and ThisHabbo has 80 staff members under their Events Staff list.

I fail to see how this thread is still going when there's our answer. I know you are saying that advertising events needs to be done more to get more organisers to join but comparing ourselves to other fansite events really does yourself no favours tbh.

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I'm not saying advertising events needs to be done, and comparison with rivals is kinda how one guages success. Not sure what you're on about here

Hey guys, I have looked at all of the feedback. There are a lot of great ideas throughout this entire thread and I do hope to take some on board when I work a few things out. I'm only going to quote a few things but that doesn't mean that the idea isn't being thought about. (Ah, I just accidently went on a different page and everything below disappeared. Auto save has saved me!)
@Kardan;

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Removal of AFK/VIP area. There's no need for it, it promotes people idling around in the room doing nothing. People come to a half full Habbox event, to see only 1 person in the queue and the rest just sleeping in a corner - and it's usually Habbox staff. If you want people to come into an event room, and not leave straight the way, there always needs to be a game in progress, not people standing around doing nothing. Event staff, as part of their job role, should be playing the events (except the host of course), not standing around the room doing nothing. If people want to socialise, go to HxHD.

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The removal of the VIP area is something that can help but may also be unhelpful. A lot of people use this as an area to go AFK and this may help populate the room, but it could also discourage users to play. What I'm hoping to do is to get smaller VIP areas with only a few seats. This way, a few users will help populate the room WITHOUT the VIP area being crowded of over 10 people and hopefully this also encourages staff to play.

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Removal of reputation. It pretty much does nothing these days with the inclusion of a token prize. When a noob wins an event and asks what reputation is, I've NEVER seen an event host explain properly what it is, the best you get is "It's reputation on habboxforum.com, sign up!" which leaves you asking the question "So what is reputation?". Reputation on the forum shouldn't be influenced by how good at rolling a RNG you are. It's also a lot easier to say 'Furni or Tokens?' and when asked what tokens are, say 'You can exchange them for Habbo credits on habboxforum.com, sign up!' - a lot better than reputation.

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I don't see the removal of Tokens or Reputation coming very soon. What I want to do is having stickies in the room explaining them, and then any questions left can be asked to the host. This would of course be compulsory just as a 'How To Play' stickie is.

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Relaxing event hosting times - This needs to be done both ways. If we have a full event, why kick people out after an hour? Let it go for however long the host feels like hosting (heck, if its a group room, try and promote another EO taking over host duties). On the other hand, if an event has a few people in and it's about 10:50, move people along to the next event already, try and get people in the event before it starts so we don't have the usual problem of waiting until 20 past the hour for enough people to start a game. This also includes multiple hosts in the same 'slot' if there's enough demand.

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This can already be done if there's a free event after you. The problem is that if someone else has another event after you, it's thought that the users won't go to that event for whatever reason. I'm not saying it's something that won't/can't be changed, but it'd have to have some form of a limit.

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Removal of 'Best Host wins 300c' - It was essentially a one-way competition, once one host was already far ahead in hours hosted, and everybody else couldn't catch up, the competition was effectively over and hosts didn't care about hosting more than usual to reach the prize. Instead, encourage consistency from event hosts. The current minimum is what, 3 hours per week? That's pretty low already, but offer some sort of incentive if they reach say, 6 hours a week for a few weeks. That would double the amount of minimum events already. And let's say every week after that initial start period they hit 6 hours a week, they get another reward. We want to keep event hosts hosting, not try and get 1 host hosting a lot, and then everybody goes back to minimums:

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I can't see the minimum being raised from three a week in the foreseeable future, even if it seems low already. However, I really have been wanting a reward system similar to what you're saying. I believe that currently we have a system that helps fund prizes, but it could be a bit better. I haven't really planned one yet, but I hope to do so. I'd want it to be a permanent one, with some changes maybe. Perhaps if someone achieves something very well, they'll receive a completely furnished events room! (To anyone who asks how I'm going to fund it, I plan on using my own furniture.)

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Removal of crap events - Stop the bingo, please. It's awful. It's not doing the department any favours. If I were in charge, I'd have people post after their 'slot' how full the room got at its peak, maybe with a screenshot for proof. And then after a few weeks consideration, I'd ban the events that had the lowest turn out, and sort of have a rota of allowed events. So for example, 1st Jan - 14th Jan: Bingo and Get the Carrot banned. 14th Jan - 28th Jan: Bingo and Get the Carrot allowed (to see if numbers improve), Add It Up banned. Of course, you need to be flexible. If no events did badly, keep them all. If Bingo is doing badly every other fortnight - just get rid of it altogether.
Removal of crap furniture prizes - This will of course be hard to implement, but at the end of the day, it's simple. You host an event saying WIN 5C, you'll get a lot more people than the usual events when you win a prize worth less than 1c.

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I do have a few plans (and maybe rules) to come for getting more creativity when it comes to games, which I hope will help. I'll talk more about it when it's actually done :). For the prizes I absolutely agree. This will be sorted, I no longer want to see the likes of VIP Sofas in prizes!

@James;

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Events needs to have some sort of guest events host, that way you have more people but, the guest minimums will be in place with x amount of events per month...!

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I know this may sound like a good idea, but it comes with A LOT of problems. (I believe some have already mentioned them.) I'm not saying it can't/won't be done in the future, but the problems take over the idea - even with some solutions, the problems continue to exist.


To anyone's I haven't replied to, I will eventually. Also, everything that I've said isn't just words - I do plan to do everything I've said above.

One of my suggestions would be - Have EO's book 3 events before a certain time on Mondays. This is a rule we have in HxL, yet, I still don't see why EO's can't use it. HabboxLive has grown yes, but if you were to impleant the pre-booking rule, they would book events. What would be the result of not pre-booking? Easy, warn them. Use the warning system just like HabboxLive.

In other suggestions, the crappy events needs to go. Common events aswell. Falling Furni being one. Falling Furni has been around for YEARS. It's an old event, I don't see why EO's still do it.

Just a couple of suggestions for you @Mk,

This is what we need more of. I hope this continues! It had 30+ people for almost two hours (it was extended due to popularity.)
http://i41.tinypic.com/se371w.png

The Sims may not be wired or new, but it's a game that hasn't been hosted in a long time, in habbox or out of habbox. I hope to change some things around soon to get less classic events (such as falling furniture) hosted soon.

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Originally Posted by Logandyer45

One of my suggestions would be - Have EO's book 3 events before a certain time on Mondays. This is a rule we have in HxL, yet, I still don't see why EO's can't use it. HabboxLive has grown yes, but if you were to impleant the pre-booking rule, they would book events. What would be the result of not pre-booking? Easy, warn them. Use the warning system just like HabboxLive.

In other suggestions, the crappy events needs to go. Common events aswell. Falling Furni being one. Falling Furni has been around for YEARS. It's an old event, I don't see why EO's still do it.

Just a couple of suggestions for you @Mk,

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I really do want pre-booking and I may consider it. The problem is that I know a lot of the current staff prefer booking when they know they have time, as it's hard for some of them to know if they're available. Nevertheless, it's still something to consider. And I agree on that, I'm going to do my best soon to cut them down.

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Originally Posted by Mk,

This is what we need more of. I hope this continues! It had 30+ people for almost two hours (it was extended due to popularity.)
http://i41.tinypic.com/se371w.png

The Sims may not be wired or new, but it's a game that hasn't been hosted in a long time, in habbox or out of habbox. I hope to change some things around soon to get less classic events (such as falling furniture) hosted soon.

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I really do want pre-booking and I may consider it. The problem is that I know a lot of the current staff prefer booking when they know they have time, as it's hard for some of them to know if they're available. Nevertheless, it's still something to consider. And I agree on that, I'm going to do my best soon to cut them down.

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Lewis, I do wish you the best of luck. If I wasn't running low on prizes, I would re-join.