'Naked' scanner in airport trial

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Originally Posted by MattGarner

They do not treat us like criminals. I don't feel that I'm a criminal because of CCTV, Databases and so on. I know why we have them and they are for good reasons. At least our Police force isn't going in kidnapping people for no reasons what so ever and beating them to death. There is nothing wrong with the CCTV, scanners, and records and so on.

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I never said our police go around beating people to death. There is something wrong with CCTV culture, it infringes peoples civil liberties and gets lost easily, as only proven by this failure of a government.

You seem quite anti CCTV for some reason when the thread topic relates to scanners put in place for aviation security which do not record and do not identify any individuals.

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Originally Posted by Yoshimitsui

You seem quite anti CCTV for some reason when the thread topic relates to scanners put in place for aviation security which do not record and do not identify any individuals.

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I have stated before, both are linked under CCTV culture and I think these scanners are a step too fari

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

I have stated before, both are linked under CCTV culture and I think these scanners are a step too fari

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I'm not being funny, but these have nothing to do with CCTV, and they're not "linked under CCTV culture".

I'm not sure what you're on about, but these are being used at airports where people carrying dangerous items won't be allowed to board... or would you rather someone feel you up... waste time... longer queues... oh you would again?

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Originally Posted by Ardemax

I'm not being funny, but these have nothing to do with CCTV, and they're not "linked under CCTV culture".

I'm not sure what you're on about, but these are being used at airports where people carrying dangerous items won't be allowed to board... or would you rather someone feel you up... waste time... longer queues... oh you would again?

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They are linked directly, a camera which scans people naked onto a screen is a form of CCTV, I know you are trying to disagree with me on every point but accept that very simple point.

I would rather go through what I have everytime I go the airport, which is just as normal as usual - the CCTV state is getting ever more advanced and I do not like it, its not needed - the system works perfectly as it is (well maybe except the fact we let criminals and extremists into the country anyway).

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

They are linked directly, a camera which scans people naked onto a screen is a form of CCTV, I know you are trying to disagree with me on every point but accept that very simple point.

I would rather go through what I have everytime I go the airport, which is just as normal as usual - the CCTV state is getting ever more advanced and I do not like it, its not needed - the system works perfectly as it is (well maybe except the fact we let criminals and extremists into the country anyway).

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I'm sorry to disagree with you here. But CCTV and this body scanner are two different things.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

They are linked directly, a camera which scans people naked onto a screen is a form of CCTV, I know you are trying to disagree with me on every point but accept that very simple point.

I would rather go through what I have everytime I go the airport, which is just as normal as usual - the CCTV state is getting ever more advanced and I do not like it, its not needed - the system works perfectly as it is (well maybe except the fact we let criminals and extremists into the country anyway).

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Are you serious? CCTV = Closed Circuit Television, which is a camera people use to look at a place, person, object etc instead of being there, body scanners at airports are basically huge metal detectors, I dare say these new forms of cameras don't show the human flesh, but are just the same as the X-Ray machines that show what people are carrying, which to be honest, Is fair enough, I don't want to be on that plane that is hijacked using sporks.

EDIT: Just saw the pics, tbh... they aren't very detailed AT ALL so what's the problem?

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

They are linked directly, a camera which scans people naked onto a screen is a form of CCTV, I know you are trying to disagree with me on every point but accept that very simple point.

I would rather go through what I have everytime I go the airport, which is just as normal as usual - the CCTV state is getting ever more advanced and I do not like it, its not needed - the system works perfectly as it is (well maybe except the fact we let criminals and extremists into the country anyway).

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now that was an idiot comment
closed circuit television has nothing to do with body scanning
don't give me cheek before thinking how stupid your reply is

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Originally Posted by MattGarner

I'm sorry to disagree with you here. But CCTV and this body scanner are two different things.

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Originally Posted by Recursion

Are you serious? CCTV = Closed Circuit Television, which is a camera people use to look at a place, person, object etc instead of being there, body scanners at airports are basically huge metal detectors, I dare say these new forms of cameras don't show the human flesh, but are just the same as the X-Ray machines that show what people are carrying, which to be honest, Is fair enough, I don't want to be on that plane that is hijacked using sporks.

EDIT: Just saw the pics, tbh... they aren't very detailed AT ALL so what's the problem?

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tyvm lol

I always get searched and THEY ALWAYS SAY IT'S RANDOM. ORLY?
I find this more reasonable.
Besides, you'll never see the staff again (hopefully) and you can hardly be identified by the picture.

I feel sorry for the person looking at the images, when a fat person walks through.

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Originally Posted by MattGarner

I'm sorry to disagree with you here. But CCTV and this body scanner are two different things.

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I did not say they were the exact same thing/the same system, I said that I think both are far too widespread and a scanner such as this is too detailed, that is why I disagree with it and the way its leading towards.

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Originally Posted by Recursion

Are you serious? CCTV = Closed Circuit Television, which is a camera people use to look at a place, person, object etc instead of being there, body scanners at airports are basically huge metal detectors, I dare say these new forms of cameras don't show the human flesh, but are just the same as the X-Ray machines that show what people are carrying, which to be honest, Is fair enough, I don't want to be on that plane that is hijacked using sporks.

EDIT: Just saw the pics, tbh... they aren't very detailed AT ALL so what's the problem?

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I did not say they were the exact same/same system, I think the pictures are too detailed and I see nothing wrong with the present system, it is basically foolproof exact from within an airport, and if a terrorist attack is to be successfully carried out again, it will come from within an airport as airports are far too guarded now.

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Originally Posted by Ardemax

now that was an idiot comment
closed circuit television has nothing to do with body scanning
don't give me cheek before thinking how stupid your reply is

tyvm lol

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..don't give you cheek? - darling nearly everytime we 'debate' I have to explain the most simple things over and over again and often you drift away from the subject, like remember how long it took me to get an answer out of you on how UKIP were a racist party?

They are related, both are involved in a culture designed to 'stop terrorism & crime' but I disagree, I believe it is going too far and as I said before, I see nothing wrong with the present system.