No, 64% would like to see the feature added aslong with posts lowered
16% would like to see 15 lwoered to 5 and no limits
20% would like no changes
so 64% agree with you, 36% disagree :P
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No, 64% would like to see the feature added aslong with posts lowered
16% would like to see 15 lwoered to 5 and no limits
20% would like no changes
so 64% agree with you, 36% disagree :P
No, 16% agree with one of my proposals, 64% agree with both of my proposals, meaning 80% do agree with me one way or another.Quote:
Originally Posted by scottish
20% disagree 80% agree.
If you're gonna talk percentages and figures why are you ignoring the stats I came up with that clearly show our membership is increasing at much the same rate as it was this time last year but posting is down a massive amount, proving that we don't need MORE members only ones who will stayQuote:
Originally Posted by Wolves,
People poll on changes all the time, but who's actually come up with something to show that this will work other than "well we might as well give it a go"?
I'm not ignoring the stats, if you look in your thread I actually posted, so I don't know where you got that codswallop from. Yes, membership MAY be increasing, but nothing is being done to keep those members here. Fact is if we get MORE members in and make changes to KEEP them here, then the forum will be better for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
What are you talking about? you still haven't brought stats to me showing that it WOULDN'T work, so you really cannot say anything. Yes, we can only see whether this will work or not is to trial it for a month.
I don't know what your problem is, are you against change or something? because at the moment you are stuck in 2005 and not 2009.
Also by posting what you did you are also disregarding the 22 people out of 27 people that have agreed that changes do need to be made. (1 of which has previously been implemented).
I wasn't here in 2005, hiya xoxo. Also 2009 doesn't mean (or shouldn't mean) that you have to force people to join up for things. If that's true then the case is already lost
You say we have to get more members and make changes to keep them here, but this plan has nothing to do with keeping anyone here, only (potentially) getting more members which as explained isn't necessary, and there is the loss of traffic risk too which has been said a fair few times and you admitted that you didn't realise it was a factor when you made this thread, so it's clearly flawed.
As I said, people ALWAYS poll for change, so disenfranchising the views of a few members who apparently neither understand nor care about the situation enough to properly comment past "yeah gd plan x" isn't something I see as too terrible
Wow, maybe you should keep track of your own thread in future, I posted there only two days ago, didn't you check?Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
I actually praised you for getting some proof, but I still don't see you giving proof to me that states that the plan on restricting members will NOT work? please explain to my why most other MAJOR forums already have this implemented? yet they are thriving.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolves,
You seem to want to 'argue your point', when really you don't have one, you have no proof. I admit, I have no proof, but if other forums are using and keep using it then it means it can only be successful, forums aren't going to be using it if it doesn't work, are they?
Don't even know what you're on about here, I didn't mention my thread at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolves,
We aren't most forums though, because Habbox is the biggest rare values site for Habbo, which is where most of our members and guests come from. A massive amount of our guests are people who just come here from the main site to see what's going on, maybe look at a couple of news thread or check trading trends, but aren't in the least bit interested in signing up unless they want to participate - in which case they'll do so of their own volition as already happens. For forums that rely on new members as an influx of traffic yes it's worth the risk of losing such a number of unique guests, but here where (especially with the decline of VIP/donator) we need ad revenue so much, I'd rather see us have less members but stability than see us having a few more people posting 3 times and a massive cut in the number of guests we get.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolves,
A new generation of positive and active members isn't going to come around by making people join who weren't really planning to.
I think you are getting confused between Habbox and Habbox Forum. I'm guessing most people who come to the forum part of Habbox is because of hearsay and friends telling them to go their.Quote:
We aren't most forums though, because Habbox is the biggest rare values site for Habbo, which is where most of our members and guests come from.
I don't agree with that at all, I think the main people who come here are from word of mouth on Habbo/MSN, and probably HabboxLive advertising.Quote:
A massive amount of our guests are people who just come here from the main site to see what's going on, maybe look at a couple of news thread or check trading trends, but aren't in the least bit interested in signing up unless they want to participate - in which case they'll do so of their own volition as already happens.
You aren't really in a position to preach to anyone about how much revenue HxF need, until a senior member of staff comes here and tells us how much they need to stay a float and how much they are gaining via Advertising and Donator then you can't say anything. Much less members = less posts = over the long time less guests = less money over all = the forum closing. More members = overall more guests because of word of mouth = more money over all = forum prospering.Quote:
For forums that rely on new members as an influx of traffic yes it's worth the risk of losing such a number of unique guests, but here where (especially with the decline of VIP/donator) we need ad revenue so much, I'd rather see us have less members but stability than see us having a few more people posting 3 times and a massive cut in the number of guests we get.
So what do you suggest to get more members here? because all I see is you flaming this suggestion. Yet you fail to pull out any suggestions of your own. I believe the post I posted in your thread is the way forward. I also believe the suggestions I suggested in this thread is the way forward, as do 20-odd other people. Positive and active members aren't going to come by not doing nothing. Action needs to happen.Quote:
A new generation of positive and active members isn't going to come around by making people join who weren't really planning to.
The opening of your last paragraph just shows you haven't been paying any attention whatsoever. I do not care for bringing a larger number of new members in, as you should know by now. What I care about is getting the people who already join up (of which there are more than enough) to actually stay and become active, which would be why I've not posted a way to get more people to sign up. Also I'm not "flaming" your suggestion at all, I'm explaining with well thought-out reasons why I don't agree. Flaming would just be me going NAH CRAP IDEA and no more.
Same lol. I think it's a good idea to make guests register after a few threads viewed. As you say, it can't really have any negative effects on the forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by buttons