Are you racist?

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

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Good luck to the Jews, gay people and women in these areas though, they're going to need it - especially in Islamic ghettoised areas.

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you're disgusting there's limits and you've crossed it

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Originally Posted by Sharon

you're disgusting there's limits and you've crossed it

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If you advocate it from your ivory tower the you're being a hypocrite and not enjoying the diversity enough. Go live in it if it's so great. That's why I have always said that nothing will change regarding this issue until the politicians themselves face the consquences.

If third world immigration is allowed at huge numbers, with no integration (which is what you advocate) then YOU should face what comes of it.

weirdly enough, none of my muslim friends (or any immigrant friends) have ever tried to rape me or steal from me
british guys however..................... must have been because of immigration!

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If you advocate it from your ivory tower the you're being a hypocrite and not enjoying the diversity enough. Go live in it if it's so great. That's why I have always said that nothing will change regarding this issue until the politicians themselves face the consquences.

If third world immigration is allowed at huge numbers, with no integration (which is what you advocate) then YOU should face what comes of it.

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once again you are doing what you ALWAYS do and that is ignoring every word someone has just said to you and going off on a tangent that is completely unrelated and irrelevant

what you have said to jen was completely uncalled for and just cruel and disgusting, think about what the hell you're wishing upon people, it's sick.

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Well actually, yes you certainly make that more probable.

Sweden for example is suffering from a rise in rape thanks to their mass Islamic immigration.

The Dutch Kingdom is suffering from civil unrest because a certain religion was dared criticised.

Britain is suffering from radical extremism, with hundreds of 'Britons' going off to fight for a group worse than al-Qaeda.

It certainly is not wrong or ignorant to point how that in many non-western cultures around the world, there is more crime, more bigotry, more rape, more violence and more corruption. It's simply a fact of life, that certain groups are worse or better than others.



Where have I said or even implied I am against all immigration?



So what are you arguing for then?

Either you are for integration or you are not, which is it instead of pissing me around endlessly?

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I thought you were referring to the attitudes of the British public at large.

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I really hope that was a joke.



I wish all the ills of mass immigration on those who advocate it but strangely don't live anywhere near it, especially the politicians.

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If you read one of the first few links that appears for 'Rape in stockholm' you'll find that in Sweden they report rape differently to the majority of other countries (Including the UK and the US). If someone gets raped by their husband every day for a year, in Sweden that's 365 different cases of rape. In the UK/US it's counted as 1 in the crime statistics.

Also, does it mean that more rapes occur in Sweden than in the UK/US/Somewhere else? Not necessarily. It means more are REPORTED.

If you look at rape data, Sweden comes out on top, because of Muslims you say. Yet Sweden is beating all the other countries in the world, including the Islamic ones which should surely be higher if there's a direct correlation between number of Muslims and number of rapes, as you're trying to get at.

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weirdly enough, none of my muslim friends have ever tried to rape me or steal from me
british guys however..................... must have been because of immigration!

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Incapable of a serious discussion on the topic.

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Originally Posted by Sharon

once again you are doing what you ALWAYS do and that is ignoring every word someone has just said to you and going off on a tangent that is completely unrelated and irrelevant

what you have said to jen was completely uncalled for and just cruel and disgusting, think about what the hell you're wishing upon people, it's sick.

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You called me an ******* earlier because you couldn't answer my question, you are hardly one to preach.

And I didn't wish it on her personally - just that I would like to see her living in a 'diverse' community where that happens a lot more than usual.

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Incapable of a serious discussion on the topic.



You called me an ******* earlier because you couldn't answer my question, you are hardly one to preach.

And I didn't wish it on her personally - just that I would like to see her living in a 'diverse' community where that happens a lot more than usual.

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oh yes because foreigners = more rape and crime because WHITE ARE SUPERIOR AND NEVER DO WRONG

and you did wish it on her personally, as soon as possible actually

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No, but I do find myself in situations where I hope someone thinks I'm not being racist.

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I have this sometimes as well

I have a few friends and work colleagues who are Asian (Muslim mostly). They are all really nice laid back guys and we constantly take the mick out of each other, quite often there will be banter involving me being a 'posh white boy' and I'll often retort referring to some stereotype about them as well. We all see it as banter and laugh it off between ourselves but I do sometimes worry that things I say could be taken the wrong way.

im not sure why me disproving your point that immigrants are more likely to rape than the disgusting british boys i've had the displeasure of being in the company of is not serious. i would not take rape so lightly unlike you wishing it on anyone who doesn't discriminate on immigrants.

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My friend, you are talking rubbish and your argument can be debunked right here (first question)....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxpDGo1Dtb8

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Why do you keep trotting out this video in response to things that aren't mentioned in it at all? It's a video of someone being asked genuine questions and replying with LOTS OF PEOPLE ARE COMING TO THIS COUNTRY as though that's being disputed anywhere

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Well actually, you're wrong there. Whilst it may be illegal, it is almost impossible to police due to EU open borders which mean anybody can move in and as it is all done off the books (a key feature of the third world) it's impossible to even track.

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...Which actually strengthens my point. These are not real jobs. Cheers.

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And also, you asked somewhere what British culture can even be defined as despite me answering this a few times. It's speaking the English language. It's the Monarchy. It's our concept of common law and liberty. It's our humour, our cuisine. Our faith. It's our tales, poems and folklore. It's our accents. It's our adversial political system. It's our shared bond with the Anglosphere. It's our sense of history and identity. It's the sacrifices that generations have made in past wars. It's our music, it's our writings, it's our philisophy, our sports, our pub culture, it's our scientific achievements, our architecture........ and I could go on and on and on.

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Yeah you're right everyone in Britain speaks the same, has the same sense of humour, eats the same food, has the same religion, reads the same books, sounds the same, feels a deep brotherhood for everyone around them, cares about the deeds of people with no relation to them, makes and appreciates the same music, shares exact ethical ideals, watches the same sports, loves beer, and builds Tudor houses. Wait no my bad, that's completely false. Whoops.

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You will not hide behind the idea that we don't have a culture worth defending and preserving because we bloody well do.

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I'm not hiding behind anything, I'm outright stating that everything that you put forth is provably nonsense

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an old couple described how they couldn't buy normal vegtables on their local high street anymore. Why? Because the area had been completely taken over by foreigners who had arrived in the past decade, who had subsquently driven all of the British shops away.

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What's a "normal" vegetable and why are you opposing capitalist business methods? Once again showing that you're completely against everything you pretend to like

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Increasingly even in Liverpool I am hearing foreign languages on the bus or the train meaning I cannot even talk to my fellow passengers and fellow countrymen should I want to, or even ask a question

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Funnily enough, one thing that IS a huge part of British culture is the fact that we're notorious for not speaking to strangers, especially on public transport. Your wish to do so is definitely going to cause the collapse of the entire nation because it differs from our history

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Why are they still speaking their foreign language to one another in public in Britain if they consider themselves British?

Answer: Because whilst they live here, they don't actually feel British at all apart from the passport they hold. And I find that depressingly sad.

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Real answer: because they can and they're comfortable doing so. Does sign language and texting also offend you because you can't join in?

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Just when I believed I couldn't think any lower of you you go and wish swift rape on someone for disagreeing with your barbaric bigotry. Utterly disgusted

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From the huge rise in rape in Sweden

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"In 2013, there were 5,887 rapes reported to the Swedish police — or 63 cases per 100,000 population — according to the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention (Brå), which is a 5 percent decrease from the previous year. The number of convictions have remained relatively unchanged since 2005, with approximately 190 convictions on average each year."

Try again

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I understand British attitudes towards immigration, yes.

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No, you understand your own view and the views of those within your circle jerk of alarmists, who thankfully do not run the country at the moment