Should benefits be scrapped ?

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Originally Posted by Blue.Neon

Thats the problem with this country, kids are having kids, they cant even look after themselves nevermind a child.

And obviously if they are in that position then benifits would be good. But that wasnt the point i was getting at. I said people who sit there all day long not even trying to get a job.

So dont twist my words, youve done that a few times.

Oh and tax payers are probably supporting people with drug addictions, much like yourself.

Urgh.

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can you stop making this so personal? :S well there you go, benefits are good for some people, that's the position i'm in, my mum is a single parent (she never used to be) bringing up 3 of her own kids and taking on multiple jobs so yes i think i'm entitled to the benefits, same as you just said. & no, i'm not addicted to drugs thank you. :)

also hayd93 seriously stop with the "chav" remarks. i'm not a chav at all & i've never heard of getting free internet LOL. i pay for my internet + uniform + books like everyone else does & i get 30pound a week, i still find it fair. i keep all of it in my bank because my mum doesn't allow me to take it out :)

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Originally Posted by hayd93

Yep its so true though. The more money you have the more tax you pay to keep **** living on this earth. Why do i bother thats what i wanna know.

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I think this country needs to look how america is run, they are only allowed so long out of work right? Plus they dont get as much benifits... im sure?

I tell you what else makes me laugh. When you commit a crime instead of beening punished you get tv,food and not bad accomidation free. You get toilettrys ect as well. I was reading a article that tramps ect are accually trying to get into prision so they get a home ect.

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Originally Posted by buttons

can you stop making this so personal? :S well there you go, benefits are good for some people, that's the position i'm in, my mum is a single parent (she never used to be) bringing up 3 of her own kids and taking on multiple jobs so yes i think i'm entitled to the benefits, same as you just said. & no, i'm not addicted to drugs thank you. :)

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You where making a point about one of my posts, saying how is it fair if a single parent cant get a job or something along those lines... When did i even talk about single parents? You where trying to make me look bad obviously.

I said people who sit on their backsides all day and have no intention of getting up and looking for a job.

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Originally Posted by hayd93

I tell you what else makes me laugh. When you commit a crime instead of beening punished you get tv,food and not bad accomidation free. You get toilettrys ect as well. I was reading a article that tramps ect are accually trying to get into prision so they get a home ect.

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Yup, the way i see it, people who work for a living are actually the ones getting punished. What rewards do we get? What thanks do working people get? Sht all...

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Originally Posted by Blue.Neon

You where making a point about one of my posts, saying how is it fair if a single parent cant get a job or something along those lines... When did i even talk about single parents? You where trying to make me look bad obviously.

I said people who sit on their backsides all day and have no intention of getting up and looking for a job.



Yup, the way i see it, people who work for a living are actually the ones getting punished. What rewards do we get? What thanks do working people get? Sht all...

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oh haha! & saying "people with drug addictions like yourself" isn't making me look bad? ahaha hypocritical much!! no you didn't say nothing about single parents i'm just saying that people who can get jobs & don't earn enough money should still get the benefits. you guys that live on 30,000+ a year have no idea what it's like and i only see that kindof people complaining about it.

also; you guys get money for your reward :S the people like "tramps" (yet again, lovely choice of words hayd93!) don't have money,clothes,warmth,food etc like everyone else that's why they get the privilegies, kindof obvious.

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Originally Posted by buttons

oh haha! & saying "people with drug addictions like yourself" isn't making me look bad? ahaha hypocritical much!! no you didn't say nothing about single parents i'm just saying that people who can get jobs & don't earn enough money should still get the benefits. you guys that live on 30,000+ a year have no idea what it's like and i only see that kindof people complaining about it.

also; you guys get money for your reward :S the people like "tramps" (yet again, lovely choice of words hayd93!) don't have money,clothes,warmth,food etc like everyone else that's why they get the privilegies, kindof obvious.

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Excuse me, people who are into drugs dont deserve nice things in life (my opinion) before you spit your dummy out again. I like in a very poor area of the country actually, my mam and dad work damn right hard for their money, why should they have to pay silly amounts of tax :s

And people who do nothing with their lives on benifits are sitting at home infront of the TV not paying house rent, sht all getting working peoples tax... THATS A GOOD REWARD!

What an easy life they have. Oh and dont start that about 'You people that have 30,000+' you dont know what type of background i come from!

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Originally Posted by buttons

oh haha! & saying "people with drug addictions like yourself" isn't making me look bad? ahaha hypocritical much!! no you didn't say nothing about single parents i'm just saying that people who can get jobs & don't earn enough money should still get the benefits. you guys that live on 30,000+ a year have no idea what it's like and i only see that kindof people complaining about it.

also; you guys get money for your reward :S the people like "tramps" (yet again, lovely choice of words hayd93!) don't have money,clothes,warmth,food etc like everyone else that's why they get the privilegies, kindof obvious.

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No we get no reward. We have to do work for our money. The sort of people i am talking about just sit arround doing nothing. We get no rewards from the goverment what so ever. Look at this from my veiw this time. I see people getting loads who do nothing and all we get is punished by the goverment for doing work and paying taxes.

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Originally Posted by Blue.Neon

Excuse me, people who are into drugs dont deserve nice things in life (my opinion) before you spit your dummy out again. I like in a very poor area of the country actually, my mam and dad work damn right hard for their money, why should they have to pay silly amounts of tax :s

And people who do nothing with their lives on benifits are sitting at home infront of the TV not paying house rent, sht all getting working peoples tax... THATS A GOOD REWARD!

What an easy life they have. Oh and dont start that about 'You people that have 30,000+' you dont know what type of background i come from!

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my mum works a hell of alot and she still pays for taxes!! you have a mother and father to support you!!
yeah i absolutely agree about the people LIVING on benefits but it doesn't need to be scrapped all together. actually, no, people are forced to go out to work, if they don't take classes or jobs then they don't get their benefits, simple ;)

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Originally Posted by hayd93

No we get no reward. We have to do work for our money. The sort of people i am talking about just sit arround doing nothing. We get no rewards from the goverment what so ever. Look at this from my veiw this tome. I see people getting loads and all we get is punished by the goverment.

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yeah well that's one side of the argument, isn't it? that people don't deserve it, no, but if you see what i said earlier they don't get benefits if they don't do courses/jobs or anything so they aren't sitting lounging around their homes.. As for the EMA scheme, it doesn't need to be reviewed or nothing because it's fine as it is, parents that do nothing and send their kids to school and claim benefits, sure it shouldn't be allowed, but people like my mum (who works very hard all by herself i'll have you know) who sends their children to school in order for a better education + receiving money at the same time should rightfully receive the benefits, even though it's the KIDS getting the money not the parents.

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Originally Posted by buttons

my mum works a hell of alot and she still pays for taxes!! you have a mother and father to support you!!
yeah i absolutely agree about the people LIVING on benefits but it doesn't need to be scrapped all together. actually, no, people are forced to go out to work, if they don't take classes or jobs then they don't get their benefits, simple ;)

You are arguing against something we all agree on :S We have said that benifits are good for those who NEED it! No1 is arguing otherwise...

yeah well that's one side of the argument, isn't it? that people don't deserve it, no, but if you see what i said earlier they don't get benefits if they don't do courses/jobs or anything so they aren't sitting lounging around their homes.. As for the EMA scheme, it doesn't need to be reviewed or nothing because it's fine as it is, parents that do nothing and send their kids to school and claim benefits, sure it shouldn't be allowed, but people like my mum (who works very hard all by herself i'll have you know) who sends their children to school in order for a better education + receiving money at the same time should rightfully receive the benefits, even though it's the KIDS getting the money not the parents.

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I know 2 people (both disabled) that each get money to look after each other, how on gods earth could that be possible :s how could someone who is in bad health look after another... and the other way around..

THEY DO NOT NEED IT OR DESERVE IT!

disabled people don't need benefits or deserve it? ***. & i just gave you examples on people that need it and you agreed :S wth. i don't care.