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Originally Posted by flatface
I don't think being sponsoered by Kazopark is going to do us any harm. I think the pros outweigh the cons, in terms of revenue, and It will also be something nice to follow the success of.
Even when it defaces Habbox? It'll be fine if it didn't make Habbox look like it was owned by some unrelated site. Kazopark would of got better advertisement making an advert to go into the GoogleAd section, it's much more effective. Having it in the title of a forum seems a bit useless and a bit rude :/
I don't understand why people are opposing this:
+ It's helping keep Habbox open
+ From what I gather for the first time in a long time sales from donor will actually be small profit (that can be spent on costs throughout the year)
+ It replaces the ads we had anyway - some of the ads caused issues anyway, won't be any with this.
+ Two fingers up at Habbo after the way they have treated their fansites.
+ Letting us try something new which we wouldn't have been aware of otherwise
+ It's helping someone who has aspirations for their game to succeed
+ It's only one forum, not going to kill us
+ Who cares if it says sponsored by Kazopark - how is this in any way detrimental? Admittedly, it isn't beneficial but at the same time it doesn't cause any negative effects.
Looks stupid and ruins the way Habbox is advertised :/ "Habbox, sponsored by Kazopark" looks tacky and unprofessional, like Habbox is admittedly showing off it has financial issues. It'll be beneficial for both parties to either change the logo at the top or have a mention in GoogleAds as a long running advert. Have the GoogleAds, then the Kazopark advert, then the GoogleAds - have the adverts revolve. Having the title change isn't beneficial for either, it means nothing for Habbox, and doesn't tell you what Kazopark is.Quote:
Originally Posted by samsta
The rest of what you said is fine, anything to stick fingers up at Habbo but it does come off as tacky and admitting to financial issues for no reason :/
I don't know if the situation has changed but when nvrspk4 was GM he said if the site continued to run at the loss it was then it'd have to close. The post is in feedback somewhere. The fact this 'deal' covers all of the monthly running costs will hopefully mean sierk and Jin don't have to dip into their own pockets as much as they would have otherwise. Habbox does/did have financial struggles, there is no shame in admitting that. I don't see how it looks tacky? All companies have sponsorship deals, Manchester City, the richest club in the world have a shirt sponsor - is that tacky or admitting to financial issues? No.Quote:
Originally Posted by GommeInc
Also, something I didn't add but I have just thought of. Although I'm unsure of how Kazopark operates maybe when it opens people from HxF will go on there to see the fuss. Well they certainly will and they'll mention HxF, it could even attract people who know Kazopark from other advertisements to see what HxF is and give it a run.
Lol, fail. These places don't deface their companies to satisfy another :rolleyes: These places that sponsor these companies e.g. Powergen for the news WILL mention they sponsor these places, as it's a give/give situation. The Kaiserpark sponship just appears to deface Habbox (Google search for example) making it come off as tacky. And you seem to not have anything to say on the fact changing the forum name doesn't benefit both Kazerpark and Habbox :P A change to the forum logo like "Sponsored by Katerpark" in the corner would look a little bit nicer and wouldn't make Habbox look tacky for new visitors.
And why would a company advertise that they sponsor a fansite? They so wouldn't do that when it opens, it'll make them look stupid.
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Originally Posted by GommeInc
Also, the tacky argument you keep persisting with is irrelevant because it's your opinion. You think it looks tacky, I think it looks fine. I'm sure having "sponsored by..." isn't going to affect a potential users decision on whether to sign up. It will have no influence whatsoever. I don't think "right, i'm not watching BGT because it's sponsored by a pizza company and I don't like pizza". It's completely irrelevant - sponsorship deals are everywhere. Why? Because they help both parties. The fact the forum name has changed might not benefit Habbox but the money Kazopark has paid to have the name like it is, does. Therefore, it is beneficial to Habbox. Habbox needs to do anything to increase revenue to ensure they can update as and when they need too which again will benefit us, as users. I see no downside in ensuring Habbox remains open. Clearly you see it differently. Although, it's unclear as to why you can't see this opportunity was far too good to turn down.
Rather than it being tacky, I think it's massively beneficial. If Kazopark takes off, or even generates a tiny minority of the interest I expect it to, a Google search of Kazopark brings up Habbox.com and the Forum, too which is great for us.
It's not just tacky, it's pointless which you seem to keep avoiding :S It has no benefits and is over-stepping the mark. For a Habbo Fansite, something that is so worthless, all they would need to do is to change the logo and obviously the GoogleAd section, although judging by my Habbox Forum homepage, someone's stupidly put it down as an advertisement when it should just be an image with a link on top. It's a sponsorship, not an advertisement deal, so that would need changing as again, Kazopark are not getting ANY benefits from that (unless the image hasn't been added yet, then ignore this) :P
So you'd rather Habbox deface themselves? Yeah, the money is fine, but Kazopark are definitely over-stepping the mark. A website name should just be the name, not the sponsor, not for an online community. Last time I checked, Facebook/Myspace didn't list EVERY sponsor, they just have non-blockable adverts which is what should be going on here, but for some reason Kazopark have somehow taken over Habbox, rather than sponsored them. I'm amazed you can't see this? :S The sponsorship is fine, but having to deface basic things like the website title/name is a bit rude and unnecessary - it's only a sponsorship deal, not a take over which is looks like it is becoming.
EDIT: Also, what happened to gaining new members? Do you really just want people visiting the website? Yeah, a search for Kazopark brings up Habbox (though it most likely won't when it takes off, as bigger websites will push Habbox down the page), but it wouldn't bring in the right people. Searchers will find Habbox and go "Oh, this seems irrelevant", so it goes against the plans Habbox set a while ago, it seems :S Especially when it's advertising another rival MMORPG, especially one that is huge = Sulake/Habbo.
I do think it looks horrible in the title, but this negative is easily outweighed by the $$$.
Also if it takes off you have what Garion mentioned above.
This is a good thing for Habbox. The fact that another company is willing to put some cash upfront for Habbox means there is some value in it.