Woman hangs dog after burning it because it chewed her Bible...

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Originally Posted by GommeInc

See my above post. They're so not born aggressive :P I've seen hundreds of puppies in my life time and you rarely get any aggressive dogs. If anything, it's the same with humans - different personalities that start from birth. Most baby animals are dependent, not vicious - if they were vicious (biting the hand that feeds you) then they're dooming themselves to death. It all depends on upbringing, and a Rottweiler or a Pit Bull is only vicious if brought up badly.

Someone mentioned man being vicious from the start. I've never seen a baby being put down for causing GBH, attempting to stab someone, biting with the intent to cause serious harm - play biting is popular amongst all of God's/Buddha's creatures, lion cubs play bite and immediately know they've done wrong if you react. it's part of training, if they witness pain then they know they've done wrong.

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You may have a point here but they are a 'prohibited' breed here so I think nature as well as nurture has a lot to do with it. To own one of these dogs you have to get an exemption order :

http://www.defra.gov.uk/wildlife-pets/pets/dangerous/

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Originally Posted by Conservative,

And yes it's the owners, but if the owners couldn't get dangerous dogs in the first place and train them to attack there wouldn't be a problem.

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"Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak because a baby can't chew it" ~ mark twain.

pit bulls are actually some of the nicest dogs i've ever met. they're just very strong, thus sometimes trained to be attack dogs. if pitt bulls were banned, people who train dogs to be vicious would just use the next strongest dog, it wouldn't solve a single thing.

if this was a muslim woman and the dog chewed her koran, i'm sure this thread would have been a lot different.

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

You may have a point here but they are a 'prohibited' breed here so I think nature as well as nurture has a lot to do with it. To own one of these dogs you have to get an exemption order :

http://www.defra.gov.uk/wildlife-pets/pets/dangerous/

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Indeed, I remember when they were added to the list. It was a very strange year last year for pit bull terriers, hundreds of children were being attacked and killed, as well as members of the public, yet they were kinda unheard before it. I think the legislation was put through because of the increase of "dangerous dog" incidents that involved them. However, to get an exemption order isn't too difficult anyway. The main problem is breeding them and having to put up with knowing that there are people out there that would strongly believe this type of dog is dangerous because it appeared in the newspaper and on TV a handful of times, even thought a handful of dogs is nothing compared to the huge majority that are perfectly good animals.

EDIT: Oh, just seen the date of the Act. I'm sure there were more recent changes to the Act. Maybe they were just ideas to put forward towards a change :/

for a book? Surely putting the dog down would be better than burning it, then hanging it?

Why do people keep telling one another that pitbulls are nice? yes of course they are most of the time, as are most animals - it is when they become aggressive and certains animals and breeds will reach the end of their tether/simply flip much faster than others; for example a Poodle is less aggressive than a Pitbull.

That said, I'm not sure I really believe in the banning of animals at all - but thats another debate.

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Originally Posted by GommeInc

Indeed, I remember when they were added to the list. It was a very strange year last year for pit bull terriers, hundreds of children were being attacked and killed, as well as members of the public, yet they were kinda unheard before it. I think the legislation was put through because of the increase of "dangerous dog" incidents that involved them. However, to get an exemption order isn't too difficult anyway. The main problem is breeding them and having to put up with knowing that there are people out there that would strongly believe this type of dog is dangerous because it appeared in the newspaper and on TV a handful of times, even thought a handful of dogs is nothing compared to the huge majority that are perfectly good animals.

EDIT: Oh, just seen the date of the Act. I'm sure there were more recent changes to the Act. Maybe they were just ideas to put forward towards a change :/

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There are two acts mentioned there the 1991 and 1997. Have there been any changes since?

I don't condone what the woman did though - that is rediculous having a moral outrage because the dog chewed a bible. Perhaps she thought the dog could read? :P

That is absolutely ridiculous! How can anyone burn a dog? She doesn't read the bible enough.

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

There are two acts mentioned there the 1991 and 1997. Have there been any changes since?

I don't condone what the woman did though - that is rediculous having a moral outrage because the dog chewed a bible. Perhaps she thought the dog could read? :P

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There may have been proposed changes since the group of dog related incidents last year/year before, but that may have just be a coincidence and shed light on an area of the law that wasn't being watched. Not entirely sure. The attacks that happened last year were the first time I've seen so many attacks at least, is that the same for anyone else?

May have done, there are so many things wrong with her actions, last time I checked there was nothing in the Bible about how you should treat animals who don't know what they are doing when it comes to religion :P

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

Why do people keep telling one another that pitbulls are nice? yes of course they are most of the time, as are most animals - it is when they become aggressive and certains animals and breeds will reach the end of their tether/simply flip much faster than others; for example a Poodle is less aggressive than a Pitbull.

That said, I'm not sure I really believe in the banning of animals at all - but thats another debate.

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You missed the arguments flung back and forth about dog behaviour ;)

How odd. Poor dog. :(

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Originally Posted by Conservative,

Honestly - I hate dogs. I've got bad memories of them and whenever something like this comes up a little voice in the back of my head says "good" but the majority of my brain says "aww, poor thing - how awful". I have mixed feelings over this. Dogs like that - the one pictured anyway - shouldn't be allowed - however hanging it and burning it is obviously unlawful and absolutely disgraceful.

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No person who is straight in the head would think 'good' about anything being killed like this - especially when the living thing did not harm ANYONE.

I shall now announce that I have a Rottweiler. He is the most soppy dog I have ever come across, has never bitten or attacked ANYTHING and just wants to be stroked.

Should my Rottweiler be banned?