Do you believe in 'god'?

And you. x) +rep

A quick conclusion; God has not been proven to exist or not exist, there for, there is no answer.

We only have signs that sway to either side... Like 'signs' that say he is real and 'with' us... And things like "Why do bad things happen to good people" If god protects us, means that he isn't there.

Can be argued for hours. >_<

i enjoy debating so am quite happy to carry on for hour's :D

yea, loved discussing this with u guys. it has made me think but not question

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Originally Posted by Mentor

i dont think youve quite g****d how evioltion works, dipite some strange human obession we cannot stop the prossess, but anyway more persifcaly, Our rase will not be replaced. but it will change, we will evolve, but we will still be us, in many millions of use the human rase may not even resemble what it is today, yet it will still be the human race, and no one will have noticed the chanegs since there so gradual, onlky via comparson of large time scales would the evoltuonry changes be noticed, Its very unlikly humans will ever die out until our planet itself is swallowed by the sun, but we will change in ways our currant minds probaly cannot yet even contemplate "/ Athogh at technolgical rate, we will prbaly have assened our planet, or possibly even our currant form by the time the sun does **** earth up.

I dissagree, humans are machinces biolgical machines, a robot contsrution can never come close to our level of sufficticaion, we are limiting the exsppances of the currant storgae techolgys already, it is the biological computers that will come next, wich will living orgnaims used to prossess data. to be like the human, brain, by that time it may as well be a human brain. Biolgical computer systems are already under devolopment as well if your intereted.
Nature is slow but effective, us humans, are far slower, but also far more prone to massive error, so if we can ever beat nature, wich created us, and create something better, is still questonable, and keep in mind, nature is still working, we are still evoilving, the bugs are being worked out, via natral selection, even if we have limited its effects and slowed our own eveoltion down "/


Where already in space, earth is in space? everything is in space, hence how the word works, space. Space is still a phisical exisnave anyway if thats what yoiur getting at and why may a human fly in to space, in enogh time, it could possible be such a simple thing as survival, athogh for the mean time exsplortion is the main reason. All your doing is makeing up reasons why god could exist. But you dont seem to get, there is no univce, or no other univcer, there was NOTHING, so no rules at all to start with, no other univce no this univce, so god would need to be created , or the other univer in wich "god" lives would have to be created, but anyone with sence can see its far easyer and simpler and therefor more likly to it just to be this univce to be created, and skip all the god ****.


We know Nothing, about god, full stop. Theres nothing suggesting a greater world, at all, all it is stupid complications to a relativly simple univce when it comes down to it.
There is no "truth" to the bible (i use truth in the phiophical term) or even to religion in its own right "/


Thats self contrdicaty, since answers no questions, just trys to perswade people to be ignorat. if we were created by another world, who created the world who created us, if this world didnt need creating, how come ours did?

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this will forever continue.

- the human race will eventually end. If something does not happen to the planet and nothing interfers with us. OUR interference and evolution will destroy us. The smae with any species.

- u are putting everything down to chance if "NOTHING was here". Its not logical. Something, whatever it was, i believe it was god, started it all. Infinity does not begin by itslef it either. In our 'universe we have absoloutly no idea and never will.

- how can nature create us. If everything was an accident everything i do is and shall be an accident. the belief in something that has created me is logical because it proves my existence. the catholic faith promotes it.

- in the case of the friends theory, hich i don't believe, it doesn't matter what u and i think for what he said. by saying this, no-one can disprove because he can return with "something planned u to say that". so he can wholefully believe that,

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Originally Posted by Forest-Law

this will forever continue.

- the human race will eventually end. If something does not happen to the planet and nothing interfers with us. OUR interference and evolution will destroy us. The smae with any species.

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Interetsing use of the word will, how exsactly do u back that up thogh, theres no proof to that, hell theres not even inferance of that, yet there is for the oppersit, very few speacis have ever died out, take the ovios dinosaws, you know a turkey or chicken today, guess what they evolved from, there still the same speacise, they have just changed, yet if they had a conspet of themselve, they would still think the same of themselve.

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- u are putting everything down to chance if "NOTHING was here". Its not logical. Something, whatever it was, i believe it was god, started it all. Infinity does not begin by itslef it either. In our 'univecr' we have absoloutly no idea and never will.

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Infinty, does not beign =.= infinty is infinate, aka always has been alwsys, real, if god is infite, theres no consuse proth that the univce isnt, you cannot prove the univerce has not always been here forever "/

nothing is nothing, im gussing u cant accept it due to the fact u cannot contemplate it, since nothing is somthing the human brain cannot handle, we never exspenace nothing, even if we see nothing, we actaly done, our brain fills the space with the colour well techilcay shade, black, we just cannot conetmaplte it, yet Nothing does exist, no time, no any direction abosult nothing.
If god can do somthing theres just as much chance the universe itself could do it to

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- how can nature create us. If everything was an accident everything i do is and shall be an accident. the belief in something that has created me is logical because it proves my existence. the catholic faith promotes it.

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Nature is somthing and it did creat you, this is somthing wich is Known, abosulty proven, beoned doubt, if u dont know evoltion u must have faild alot of sciance classes.

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- in the case of the friends theory, hich i don't believe, it doesn't matter what u and i think for what he said. by saying this, no-one can disprove because he can return with "something planned u to say that". so he can wholefully believe that,

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No one can prove it ether, its a belife, and however stupid our belifes may be, people belive them, i prefer only to a blive and infer from the plausbale to make my predictions on my common life style, and the higher things such as our very exsiatnce.
And We cant disprove it Yet, but in future this may be able to, i would kinda feel sorry for the guy, i mean the theary does sound like a refeldction of servear dpresson, aka not aknolageing free will or any true choise making abilty, if u belived that, why do anything, since whatever u do what will happen will happnen anyway "/

I believe there is a God, because have you noticed?? I mean if anyone read the bible (this is not fake) In It it says there will be a major terrorist killing many, or somewhat like that. My mom's boss is very religious, and on 9/11 He pointed this out. I believe God knows our future, and everything that will be happining. As far as I'm concerned, When someone dies, Someone is born. I think that when I die, I will come back as something else. AND here's a little story about it. It might be a cowinidence (sp.) or it could be true.

My grandfather died last year, before Thanksgiving, 1 day before to be spacific. And my grandma and my aunt (who lived with my grandma and her little 1 year old boy, Aiden) had moved just a little down the street. There was a cat, a sweet little cat, that always hung around that house, he wouldn't leave and usually stayed outside. My grandma noticed it and let it in once and awhile at night to eat and drink water. Patti, my... uh.... I dunno?, had heard about this and thought that that was my grandpa, Jimmy. Because, He always hung around the house, and My little cousin Aiden, had been in his "mean" stage, throwing thing around and grabbing, and had hit that cat and pulled his fur trying to pet him (he's just a baby though). But, the cat never left, scratched at him, hissed, bit, or anything at Anyone! Then, the cat had babies. 6. She would let us pick up the cats, and everything. Never protective. If a cat meowed, she would just make sure it wasn't being hurt and everythiing. If she wanted one back, she wouldn't scratch you, she would just put her paw on your arm. But, because her baabies were being held so much, she took them and ran away.

Kida wierd ending, but I believed that that was my grandpa, and some of my family does too, even if it was a girl.

Only way to find out is to die and not suicide. I belive in God, Jesus and the Bible. But it just seems odd that Jesus was talking to god but how come we cant talk to god?

You Mean How come God can't talk to us? [I] Because we can talk to god.

I can talk to my igmaginary friend herbert, doesn't mean he exists.

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Originally Posted by Axlilxbitxflirt

I believe there is a God, because have you noticed?? I mean if anyone read the bible (this is not fake) In It it says there will be a major terrorist killing many, or somewhat like that.

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No it doesnt :rolleyes:

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My mom's boss is very religious, and on 9/11 He pointed this out.

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No it didnt, unless u mean the bible codes wich are BS, as its just chance based anomilysm u could find in any book with complexed enogh pattems, to prove this, i forget the name showed he could get the same level of predictions, sometiems btter of mobi ****.

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I believe God knows our future, and everything that will be happining. As far as I'm concerned, When someone dies, Someone is born. I think that when I die, I will come back as something else.

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Thats not what the christan faith belives, plus i can dirpove that easly, we have population increase and a varing population of the world, its not a constant one as that tehary would predict.

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My grandfather died last year, before Thanksgiving, 1 day before to be spacific. And my grandma and my aunt (who lived with my grandma and her little 1 year old boy, Aiden) had moved just a little down the street. There was a cat, a sweet little cat, that always hung around that house, he wouldn't leave and usually stayed outside. My grandma noticed it and let it in once and awhile at night to eat and drink water. Patti, my... uh.... I dunno?, had heard about this and thought that that was my grandpa, Jimmy. Because, He always hung around the house, and My little cousin Aiden, had been in his "mean" stage, throwing thing around and grabbing, and had hit that cat and pulled his fur trying to pet him (he's just a baby though). But, the cat never left, scratched at him, hissed, bit, or anything at Anyone! Then, the cat had babies. 6. She would let us pick up the cats, and everything. Never protective. If a cat meowed, she would just make sure it wasn't being hurt and everythiing. If she wanted one back, she wouldn't scratch you, she would just put her paw on your arm. But, because her baabies were being held so much, she took them and ran away.

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Thats coninsidence, do u have any idea how many stray cats there are around? Plus have you never seen a cat with children before, cats are quite friendly animals, i know plenty of cats whove been around childern, and never hissed, scratec or done anything to them, even if they may have had them being a bit rough with em, my old cat sid, for exsample was exsactly like that, and that wasnt some dead person who knew me :rolleyes:

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Kida wierd ending, but I believed that that was my grandpa, and some of my family does too, even if it was a girl.

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You take a random stray cat as proof of rencarntion =.= "/

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Originally Posted by Mentor

Interetsing use of the word will, how exsactly do u back that up thogh, theres no proof to that, hell theres not even inferance of that, yet there is for the oppersit, very few speacis have ever died out, take the ovios dinosaws, you know a turkey or chicken today, guess what they evolved from, there still the same speacise, they have just changed, yet if they had a conspet of themselve, they would still think the same of themselve.

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and what has our planet done to the animals that once lived here. used them to evolve. what is next in this planets evolution??? this species cannot live foever (your take on the word will has been taken way out of context - i meant this thread....because everybody has different opinions which they believe)

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Infinty, does not beign =.= infinty is infinate, aka always has been alwsys, real, if god is infite, theres no consuse proth that the univce isnt, you cannot prove the univerce has not always been here forever "/

nothing is nothing, im gussing u cant accept it due to the fact u cannot contemplate it, since nothing is somthing the human brain cannot handle, we never exspenace nothing, even if we see nothing, we actaly done, our brain fills the space with the colour well techilcay shade, black, we just cannot conetmaplte it, yet Nothing does exist, no time, no any direction abosult nothing.
If god can do somthing theres just as much chance the universe itself could do it to

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if infinity has been around forver and always, thsi contradicts u saying evrything needs a creator. if infinty does not need a creator why does God? (and infinity does need a creator because something must have started it all, something must have triggered the universe to expand)

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Nature is somthing and it did creat you, this is somthing wich is Known, abosulty proven, beoned doubt, if u dont know evoltion u must have faild alot of sciance classes.

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so nature just one day creates a male and female human being and we're all one family? I understand the basics of evolution and much besides that. but why are we here and who put us here? To put it briefly, the structure of the solar system was specially designed for mankind to live. BY WHO OR WHAT??

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Originally Posted by MENTOR

No one can prove it ether, its a belife, and however stupid our belifes may be, people belive them, i prefer only to a blive and infer from the plausbale to make my predictions on my common life style, and the higher things such as our very exsiatnce.
And We cant disprove it Yet, but in future this may be able to, i would kinda feel sorry for the guy, i mean the theary does sound like a refeldction of servear dpresson, aka not aknolageing free will or any true choise making abilty, if u belived that, why do anything, since whatever u do what will happen will happnen anyway "/

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yea, ur right, he is a bit mental but he no longer needs answers because he can answer everything. he is really weird. it is similar to christianity becuase it gives some meaning to peoples lives.

PEOPLE - BRIEFLY, HOW, IN YOUR THEOLOGICAL AND PHILOSOPHICAL OPINION, DID THE UNIVERSE BEGIN??