[Minecraft] Stuto's Server

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19-10-2010, 03:51 PM
Firehorse

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

Would have thought they'd want to keep whatever's been built tbh, otherwise there's not going to be any reason for people to go on there once the CC server comes up

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Originally Posted by Stuto

Maybe it's time for everyone to have a permissions reset. All would be wiped apart from the server scripts and map, and then it's like you're new players.

Cecer, please remember you're a mod to help script testing. The rest can give it a rest, stop arguing about irl stuff, that's what facebook is for. This is a casual 'test' server and I don't want people to not play because of another member.

quoted above

Also an update on the creepercraft vps: They decided to change their mind and we won't be helping with their servers and they won't be hosting this one.
19-10-2010, 04:09 PM
dbgtz

oo wtf why
19-10-2010, 04:43 PM
Oleh

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19-10-2010, 04:51 PM
Firehorse

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Originally Posted by Mr Selena Gomez

oo wtf why

They didn't specify a reason and this was basically the entire conversation:

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Niamh said

Hey guys, sorry i havent told you until now
But basically we've decided against you 2 running it
19-10-2010, 04:54 PM
Stephen

their loss I don't care I'm sticking with your server
19-10-2010, 04:55 PM
jackass

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Originally Posted by HC0R3H00LIH00P

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Clearly that's the reason. How did you get to that conclusion, exactly?
19-10-2010, 04:55 PM
Pyroka

Probably because CreeperCraft won't have control of the client hosted on their sever. Quite rightly so though, they're capable of making their own server. Gives people a bit more choice, in essence everyones a winner.
19-10-2010, 05:00 PM
Oleh

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Originally Posted by Biohazard

Clearly that's the reason. How did you get to that conclusion, exactly?

From what i heard he is, until i meet him my opinion wont change (i know i know)

to be honest i dont even know who the person is
19-10-2010, 05:08 PM
DPS

Im sticking with Stuto :)
19-10-2010, 06:05 PM
Fez

STUTO VERSUS creepwerCRAFT111234!
19-10-2010, 06:36 PM
Firehorse

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pyroka

Probably because CreeperCraft won't have control of the client hosted on their sever. Quite rightly so though, they're capable of making their own server. Gives people a bit more choice, in essence everyones a winner.

They most definately would have, there wouldn't be any reason for them not to have access to the server scipts, info and have administrator privaledges themselves.

Although they didn't state why, I can predict a reason is that if you're running someone then you'd want someone you know well or yourself to run it to be as efficient as possible.
19-10-2010, 06:36 PM
Stephen

i stick with stutos. It's a nice little private sort of server just for us lot on here to play about with. Creepercraft is gonna be a fansite so it's gonna have aload randomers on there
19-10-2010, 06:38 PM
FlyingJesus

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Originally Posted by Stuto

Also an update on the creepercraft vps: They decided to change their mind and we won't be helping with their servers and they won't be hosting this one.

This was decided and posted about ages ago lol like even before all the griefing and you destroying my area of the map. It was more to do with how Cecer is a terrible mod whom we couldn't trust with power considering how much griefing and server crashing is in his history, but then apparently (I can't say for sure as this is just what Niamh told me) you were being too demanding with what you wanted from a VPS which we were doing you a favour getting, despite your saying that you couldn't be around much to help anyway. As for Niamh not giving you a reason, I was told you two basically ignored him, but again I wasn't there so can't be 100%

Anyone wanting to stay on the stuto server is more than welcome we're not getting violent about stealing a couple of users lol, my earlier statement was written in the belief that people would prefer a 24/7 build server, but anyone's free to go on whatever one they want obv
19-10-2010, 06:45 PM
Firehorse

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

This was decided and posted about ages ago lol like even before all the griefing and you destroying my area of the map. It was more to do with how Cecer is a terrible mod whom we couldn't trust with power considering how much griefing and server crashing is in his history, but then apparently (I can't say for sure as this is just what Niamh told me) you were being too demanding with what you wanted from a VPS which we were doing you a favour getting, despite your saying that you couldn't be around much to help anyway.

Anyone wanting to stay on the stuto server is more than welcome we're not getting violent about stealing a couple of users lol, my earlier statement was written in the belief that people would prefer a 24/7 build server, but anyone's free to go on whatever one they want obv

Never was being demanding, I just wanted to know more about how they were planning to run it. Such as how they were going to become sustainable and the potential profit they'd be able to make from it. How can I be demanding from a VPS? I was giving the minimum specifications which a minecraft server needs to run, if that is too much for you guys to afford then you should have done your research before starting the project. I was stating I couldn't be around much until a specified date, which turned out to be before you were planning to start the project anyhow.

I'm not going to continue this debate because it is silly, least because you're only their forum manager and aren't running it.

Oh and just to make it clear, the minimum amount of RAM for a minecraft server is 1024mb. If you're expecting any more than 10 players online at a time without that much RAM then you'd probably better rethink your plans.

----------Adding on------------

I didn't 'destroy' your area, I pruned the map because it was quite an extreme adventure which more than quadroupled the size of the map. Also the creation you made whilst there was restored at another location. And before you say anything about it being the landscape please know I understand but I just couldn't leave the map so large.
19-10-2010, 06:49 PM
Nemo

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Originally Posted by Stuto

They most definately would have, there wouldn't be any reason for them not to have access to the server scipts, info and have administrator privaledges themselves.

Although they didn't state why, I can predict a reason is that if you're running someone then you'd want someone you know well or yourself to run it to be as efficient as possible.

Basically was Tom has said is almost true, and yes i didn't give a reason why because i was literally ignored. Not a single reply. We thought of you guys originally because we had seen that you and cecer were managing to do this quite effectively. Me and titch were insanely surprised when you were demanding that we open on a date to suit you, as you were busy (if busy, then don't do it.). That put us off but we were fine with it and we agreed we'd get it when we get it. I then stalked this thread a lot, and after seeing that actually quite a lot of people disliked Cecer, and no offense to you Dan, but i can pretty much manage the server quite effectively and would as you said, be a lot easier and more efficient.

I think the clincher was this massive arguement thats been happening really, and all this drama. Me and Titch just decided we didn't want that kind of atmosphere from the beginning, a fresh start with no drama.

As to stealing users, pretty much what Tom said.

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

This was decided and posted about ages ago lol like even before all the griefing and you destroying my area of the map. It was more to do with how Cecer is a terrible mod whom we couldn't trust with power considering how much griefing and server crashing is in his history, but then apparently (I can't say for sure as this is just what Niamh told me) you were being too demanding with what you wanted from a VPS which we were doing you a favour getting, despite your saying that you couldn't be around much to help anyway. As for Niamh not giving you a reason, I was told you two basically ignored him, but again I wasn't there so can't be 100%

Anyone wanting to stay on the stuto server is more than welcome we're not getting violent about stealing a couple of users lol, my earlier statement was written in the belief that people would prefer a 24/7 build server, but anyone's free to go on whatever one they want obv

34 pages and i've finally got a reason to post.
19-10-2010, 07:07 PM
Firehorse

Ok, now it's time for some good news.

On the day of the permission reset users will be given extra permissions by default. This will include cuboid.

Cuboid is a tool which can be used for fast building and fast modifications. Users must be cautious when using it as it can be misused easily and cause damage.
New members unknown to the forum will not get these permissions immediately.

It is likely uberaxe will also return soon after a bug fix.

Any misuse of these tools will lead to a ban. /undo will fix most misuses for only the single previous action, but can't be taken for granted.

Extremely large modifications/builds must be done in smaller chunks to reduce the strain on the server.
19-10-2010, 07:30 PM
Fez

Time to build an even bigger chicken.
19-10-2010, 07:40 PM
Stephen

can the people who get cuboid have/keep/begivenback /ff too
19-10-2010, 07:43 PM
Oleh

i dont see why you dont just push through the problems and collaborate. Dan does have regular periods where he doesnt reply but it all gets sorted.

From all i gather from just your post, You are using this as an excuse to start your own.
19-10-2010, 07:51 PM
Apple

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuto

Ok, now it's time for some good news.

On the day of the permission reset users will be given extra permissions by default. This will include cuboid.

Cuboid is a tool which can be used for fast building and fast modifications. Users must be cautious when using it as it can be misused easily and cause damage.
New members unknown to the forum will not get these permissions immediately.

It is likely uberaxe will also return soon after a bug fix.

Any misuse of these tools will lead to a ban. /undo will fix most misuses for only the single previous action, but can't be taken for granted.

Extremely large modifications/builds must be done in smaller chunks to reduce the strain on the server.

Loving the sound of the cuboid update. I really am looking forward to getting back on the server now. :P
19-10-2010, 07:52 PM
Nemo

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Originally Posted by HC0R3H00LIH00P

i dont see why you dont just push through the problems and collaborate. Dan does have regular periods where he doesnt reply but it all gets sorted.

From all i gather from just your post, You are using this as an excuse to start your own.

If that was in reference to me, its because i dont want there to be any problems. We're only just starting up and if there's problems already, i dont want there to be any reason for there to be later down the line. It's just not a good starting point.

As for "an excuse to start my own". We're going to start a new one regardless. We asked Stuto and Cecer because they already had an established server and community, so we thought it'd be nice (and easier for us) to let them run the VPS. However for the reasons stated above, we decided against it.
19-10-2010, 08:03 PM
Oleh

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Originally Posted by NaughtyNemo

If that was in reference to me, its because i dont want there to be any problems. We're only just starting up and if there's problems already, i dont want there to be any reason for there to be later down the line. It's just not a good starting point.

As for "an excuse to start my own". We're going to start a new one regardless. We asked Stuto and Cecer because they already had an established server and community, so we thought it'd be nice (and easier for us) to let them run the VPS. However for the reasons stated above, we decided against it.

All im saying is, if you were to support Stutos server. you know of the weaknesses and if the weaknesses prove to much its a little few words to fix but starting a new server gives way for problems such as rogue moderators and stuff.
19-10-2010, 08:19 PM
FlyingJesus

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Originally Posted by Stuto

I didn't 'destroy' your area, I pruned the map because it was quite an extreme adventure which more than quadroupled the size of the map. Also the creation you made whilst there was restored at another location. And before you say anything about it being the landscape please know I understand but I just couldn't leave the map so large.

Well I apparently can't reply to this post then as that was entirely the point of that area. Regardless, you definitely could have left it you were simply unwilling, but it doesn't matter now

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Originally Posted by Stuto

Any misuse of these tools will lead to a ban. /undo will fix most misuses for only the single previous action, but can't be taken for granted.

/undo is a fantastic tool, there are versions of it that undo all of your actions in a certain time frame (ie: /undo 60 will undo the last minute) which always proved useful on Niamh's old freebuild server, but even as just a last action function that ought to help the server tremendously, especially with regards to bigger mistakes such as water/lava leaks

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Originally Posted by HC0R3H00LIH00P

Dan does have regular periods

lol

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Originally Posted by HC0R3H00LIH00P

All im saying is, if you were to support Stutos server. you know of the weaknesses and if the weaknesses prove to much its a little few words to fix but starting a new server gives way for problems such as rogue moderators and stuff.

Starting a new server doesn't mean having to hire complete strangers to moderate it lol, the team wouldn't be working together if we didn't know each other. I think with our personal differences especially between Cecer and, well, everyone else it will prove less stressful to both parties being able to work separately
19-10-2010, 08:34 PM
xxMATTGxx

Anyway, Dan could you do another catograph please. Thanks and keep up the good work with the server!
19-10-2010, 08:36 PM
Stephen

in otherwords matt did a massive penis
19-10-2010, 08:38 PM
Firehorse

Ok, i've started a thread for a VPS fund to see approximately how much we'd be able to raise with stability. http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=670871

---------------Adding On----------------

Latest Cartograph:

http://fileserve.webshark.co/Minecra...angle-day4.png

http://fileserve.webshark.co/Minecra...angle-day4.png
19-10-2010, 09:01 PM
Fez

You can see my giant duck :D
19-10-2010, 09:02 PM
xxMATTGxx

You can see my waterway and expansions to it quite nicely on that. :D
19-10-2010, 09:12 PM
dbgtz

you can see where people went over the land with sand which i specifically cleared for myself :////
19-10-2010, 09:12 PM
FlyingJesus

Did the volcano get moved I swear it wasn't in the sea before and what's that big brown thing up in the top right gonna be
19-10-2010, 09:16 PM
xxMATTGxx

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Originally Posted by Mr Selena Gomez

you can see where people went over the land with sand which i specifically cleared for myself :////

I'm I one of them? I apologize if so.

http://mattgarner.net/upload/images/1287550877.png

Who created this bit (circled in red)
19-10-2010, 09:18 PM
Fez

Right, I've got an idea for my next project.
19-10-2010, 09:36 PM
jackass

Looking forward to the cuboid update! :D
19-10-2010, 09:37 PM
Oleh

if your refering to that volcano thing towards the bottom left.. That was a volcano island i made purely for aesthetic reasons.
19-10-2010, 09:39 PM
dbgtz

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

I'm I one of them? I apologize if so.

http://mattgarner.net/upload/images/1287550877.png

Who created this bit (circled in red)

I put a sign up now
and I made that.
19-10-2010, 09:46 PM
FlyingJesus

Quote:

Originally Posted by HC0R3H00LIH00P

if your refering to that volcano thing towards the bottom left.. That was a volcano island i made purely for aesthetic reasons.

Shhh don't tell them that's the reason, it'll get deleted
19-10-2010, 09:46 PM
[Chris]

Dear sirs.

http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/4385/claimed.png

Me and Fez have a BIG idea and would like to request a large area to be claimed for such needs. PLZPLZPLZPLZPLZPLZ
19-10-2010, 09:48 PM
Firehorse

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

Shhh don't tell them that's the reason, it'll get deleted

The volcano island also doubles as my secret lair, the inside is somewhat hollow.

Quote:

Originally Posted by [Chris]

Dear sirs.

http://img808.imageshack.us/img808/4385/claimed.png

Me and Fez have a BIG idea and would like to request a large area to be claimed for such needs. PLZPLZPLZPLZPLZPLZ

sure, tomorrow. Server is going down any minute now.
19-10-2010, 09:53 PM
Fez

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuto

sure, tomorrow. Server is going down any minute now.

We shall rise at noon!

(tomorrow at sometime)
19-10-2010, 09:54 PM
FlyingJesus

Unbanned tomorrow, huzzah

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