is it just me, or is hip-hop getting really bad?

okok, so i used to like indie and hip-hop music the same, but every urban release this year is just sounding crap or not at all urban.

dizzee rascal's new album for a start, it's got lily allen and alex turner on it? i love both them artists, but they just don't sound right on a grime track, and just make it sound poppy. same as kano's new album, which has got kate nash, craig david and damon albarn on it. pretty much the same with lethal bizzle, who has collaborated with punk band gallows on a new song, and who is also supporting every popular indie band imaginable on their live tours.

same is happening on the other side of the world. kanye west's new song 'stronger' is dodgy, and uses daft punk in it. if the rest of the album is the same, it'll be crap. timbaland's new album was pretty good, but had some downright weird tracks featuring fall out boy and the hives. t.i.'s new album didn't feature any artists from other genre's, but it was crap.

sure, all of this sells records, but hip-hop should of stayed true to its roots to keep its real fans instead of converting pop and rock fans.

(don't care if there's no response, just wanted to get that off my chest!)

It's not getting really bad.

It always was utter crap.

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Originally Posted by JoeyK.

It's not getting really bad.

It always was utter crap.

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to simply say that all hip-hop ever is utter crap is pretty idiotic.

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Originally Posted by liquid

to simply say that all hip-hop ever is utter crap is pretty idiotic.

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It's all a matter of opinion, and personally I dislike all hip-hop because... Quite simply, I don't like listening to it, I think it's crap.

I can state my own opinion if I like ;)

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Originally Posted by JoeyK.

It's all a matter of opinion, and personally I dislike all hip-hop because... Quite simply, I don't like listening to it, I think it's crap.

I can state my own opinion if I like ;)

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yeah and i stated mine - i think you're idiotic for saying it's all crap.

there's music i don't like, but i wouldn't call it 'utter crap' just because i don't like it.

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Originally Posted by liquid

yeah and i stated mine - i think you're idiotic for saying it's all crap.

there's music i don't like, but i wouldn't call it 'utter crap' just because i don't like it.

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You asked if it was getting worse -- My answer was no because I always thought it was terrible. You asked, I answered, simple as that... A tad rude calling someone idiotic for saying something against a type of music they don't like imo.

But, I suppose you're just as entitled to have your own opinion of me as I am entitled to my own opinion of hip-hop.

Anyway, I dislike wasting my time arguing online, as nothing really comes out of it, & I'm sure you'll agree, so let's leave it at that ;)

All that stuff you mentioned has to be better than gangsta rap like 50 Cent.

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Originally Posted by liquid

dizzee rascal's new album for a start, it's got lily allen and alex turner on it? i love both them artists, but they just don't sound right on a grime track, and just make it sound poppy. same as kano's new album, which has got kate nash, craig david and damon albarn on it. pretty much the same with lethal bizzle, who has collaborated with punk band gallows on a new song, and who is also supporting every popular indie band imaginable on their live tours.

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Dizzee's "Temptation" is really just the same as Arctic's "Temptation Greets Your Like Your Naughty Friend.
Dizzee guest vocals on Arctic's, so Alex returns the favour for Dizzee.
But "Wanna Be" is the worst song on the album due to Lily Allen IMO.

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Originally Posted by Jõnathan

Dizzee's "Temptation" is really just the same as Arctic's "Temptation Greets Your Like Your Naughty Friend.
Dizzee guest vocals on Arctic's, so Alex returns the favour for Dizzee.
But "Wanna Be" is the worst song on the album due to Lily Allen IMO.

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yeah everyone absolutely bums off "wanna be" but i think it's awful.

Talent-wise, most popular music these days is crap, e.g. Lily Allen. I can't really remember the last 'new' song I liked.