BNP-Military row continues

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BNP leader Nick Griffin has compared a group of former generals who attacked his party in a letter this morning to Nazi war criminals. A letter signed by General Sir Richard Dannatt and General Sir Mike Jackson had warned that the BNP is hijacking patriotic British symbols and attaching itself to the Armed Forces for its own 'dubious' ends. But in an incredible posting on the BNP website today, Mr Griffin hit out at the two respected generals for their parts in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.

He said: 'The Nuremberg War Crimes Trials set the precedent when the leaders of Nazi Germany were charged with invading other countries which represented no military threat to Germany. 'Along with the political leadership of Nazi Germany, the chiefs of staff of the German army ... were also charged with waging aggressive war. 'Sir Richard and Sir Mike fall squarely into this bracket, and they must not think that they will escape culpability for pursuing the illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.' In the generals' letter they had warned the BNP was tarnishing the forces' reputation by associating itself with soldiers' sacrifices.

It emerged amid huge anger over Mr Griffin's appearance on Question Time this Thursday, with the corporation so far refusing to pull him from the line-up. The letter highlighted fears in the top echelons of the military that the BNP is exploiting servicemen. It said: 'We call on all those who seek to hijack the good name of Britain's military for their own advantage to cease and desist.

'The values of these extremists - many of whom are essentially racist - are fundamentally at odds with the values of the modern British military, such as tolerance and fairness.' Mr Griffin hit back today, insisting the generals had no right to criticise his party's approach. In a reference to the Tories recruiting General Dannatt, he told Sky News that some of them were 'in the pockets of the Conservative Party'.

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How about the now-political military stop criticising a party which has done nothing and has every right to use world war II posters if it wishes, and perhaps spend their time criticising the in-office Labour government which has slashed military spending, and sent young men and women into an illegal war along with a un-winnable war without the right equipment, who have as a result, come back with limbs missing or often, dead.

..this is just another example of the police/military and co. becoming far too involved in politics.

Do you agree or disagree with the military becoming involved in political issues?

The BNP had nothing to do with the workings of the war and was not the party in charge at the time. Though they have the right to use them, the military should have the choice between who uses their slogans and posters and the BNP is one of the parties who is piggy-backing the military for an unnecessary campaign to try and win over votes, therefore is the party not allowed to use the posters. It's unnecessary anyway "This is a war, which plays very little relevance. The past cannot shape the future, for the present has changed it."

... and he calls them Nazi war criminals :rolleyes:

I personally think it's disgusting that a party can get away with using pictures of (now) dead people and war images in their merchandising. We are and should be proud of our military in saving us from foreign threats, but to use them in this way or making outlandish comments about certain people in the past to make some gain is disgusting. These people didn't fight for your cause, they fought another and it's completely disrespectful on those who have died. That goes for all parties. Not just the BNP.

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Originally Posted by alexxxxx

I personally think it's disgusting that a party can get away with using pictures of (now) dead people and war images in their merchandising. We are and should be proud of our military in saving us from foreign threats, but to use them in this way or making outlandish comments about certain people in the past to make some gain is disgusting. These people didn't fight for your cause, they fought another and it's completely disrespectful on those who have died. That goes for all parties. Not just the BNP.

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Totally agree.

The military shouldn't be involved in politics I agree with that, it's the BNP who dragged them into it, forcing them to resist.

I think its disgusting Labour send our boys and girls into illegal wars with no armour/inproper equipment. I have to say, while the BNP may of made the wrong choice that is questionable (although we are siupposed to live in a democracy are we not?) - if anyone is the criminal in this it is the Labour party and the ruling Lib/Lab/Con elite.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

I think its disgusting Labour send our boys and girls into illegal wars with no armour/inproper equipment. I have to say, while the BNP may of made the wrong choice that is questionable (although we are siupposed to live in a democracy are we not?) - if anyone is the criminal in this it is the Labour party and the ruling Lib/Lab/Con elite.

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yeah, you might think that's disgusting but that's not in this debate. are you sure you're not a BNP supporter? you are a bit hypocritical, you say that the military are becoming too involved in politics, yet you say that they should complain about the labour party? good one. :eusa_wall

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Originally Posted by alexxxxx

yeah, you might think that's disgusting but that's not in this debate. are you sure you're not a BNP supporter? you are a bit hypocritical, you say that the military are becoming too involved in politics, yet you say that they should complain about the labour party? good one. :eusa_wall

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Actually I do not think it is hypocritical, what is hypocritical is the fact that the BNP are being criticised for using military pictures by Generals and the establishment when the ruling Labour party itself started an illegal war which was condemmed by millions across the world, and send our boys and girls to war without the proper equipment, meaning they die.

I support some BNP policies (EU in particular) as they appear to be one of the only parties prepared to stick up for the ordinary people and the military, and its shown that the establishment will use any dirty trick in the book to stop the BNP because they now realise if the trends continue it will all be over soon.

I think perhaps people should stop linking Nick Griffin and world war II and maybe question why Labour & Liberal Democrat MPs' were involved in marxist/socialist/communist groups during the 1970s' - at a time when the Soviet Union had thousands, if not millions still in prison and being sentenced to death for 'crimes' against the state.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

Actually I do not think it is hypocritical, what is hypocritical is the fact that the BNP are being criticised for using military pictures by Generals and the establishment when the ruling Labour party itself started an illegal war which was condemmed by millions across the world, and send our boys and girls to war without the proper equipment, meaning they die.

I support some BNP policies (EU in particular) as they appear to be one of the only parties prepared to stick up for the ordinary people and the military, and its shown that the establishment will use any dirty trick in the book to stop the BNP because they now realise if the trends continue it will all be over soon.

I think perhaps people should stop linking Nick Griffin and world war II and maybe question why Labour & Liberal Democrat MPs' were involved in marxist/socialist/communist groups during the 1970s' - at a time when the Soviet Union had thousands, if not millions still in prison and being sentenced to death for 'crimes' against the state.

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what? are you ok in the head? how is that hypocritical? labour and the government aren't saying anything about it at all? and even if they did that still wouldn't be hypocritical. ex-military members are complaining about this, perhaps they are offended by their use. I'm not quite sure who you mean by the 'establishment,' perhaps everyone that you disagree with? people who are against the BNP?

I don't understand what your last statement has with this article. Have you lost it?

Surely looking into the past history of MPs undermines parliament. They've been legitimately elected into parliament by the people (It would be undemocratic to remove them because of this). Not only that but older views are irrelevant to today.

It's also not a crime to support Communism even if you strongly disagree with it.