Schools could open from 9am to 6pm 25 weeks year

A proposal has been made by a government person or something that schools should be open from 9AM to 6PM, 45 weeks a year. In school we've been debating this and I agree with it... depending on how intense work is, I think it would be good.

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Schools would open until 6pm for up to 45 weeks a year under plans drawn up by David Cameron’s former Number Ten policy chief.

Paul Kirby suggests long summer holidays and short working days for teachers should be scrapped.

Under the highly controversial scheme, which would enrage teaching unions, the average school day would run from 9am to 6pm, while school holidays would be slashed to seven weeks.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...overnment.html

They can keep the children in school as long as they like but if there's no discipline or anything of substance being taught then nothing will change.

The issue with education is selection and discipline - until they are introduced, nothing is going to change. More pissing in the wind. The reason I think they're introducing this is simple though: because of the number of unmarried mothers and children with only one person supporting the household, the state is increasingly now looking for ways to subsidise the single parent family and thus is coming out with schemes like this which are essentially just childcare provided by the state.

That's the natural consquence of a society where marriage is spat upon and the family is viewed as something that isn't necessary.

*waits for somebody with divorced parents to jump down my throat and tell me that having one parent is just as good as having a mother and father* :rolleyes:

this wont happen

I really think the kids need the breaks and teachers have a lot of work to do anyway

this will just unattract anyone from becoming a teacher, and make current teachers look elsewhere

you'll just get schools full of depressed overworked teachers

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

They can keep the children in school as long as they like but if there's no discipline or anything of substance being taught then nothing will change.

The issue with education is selection and discipline - until they are introduced, nothing is going to change. More pissing in the wind.

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What do you mean by selection? (Sorry about my blonde moment life)

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Originally Posted by Futz

this wont happen

I really think the kids need the breaks and teachers have a lot of work to do anyway

this will just unattract anyone from becoming a teacher, and make current teachers look elsewhere

you'll just get schools full of depressed overworked teachers

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Don't you think teachers would get breaks to though? I doubt they'd have to teach for 9 hours a day. :)

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Originally Posted by Skandair

What do you mean by selection? (Sorry about my blonde moment life)

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Selective education, ie the grammar school system whereby the most academic children were seperated at around age 11 and put into seperate schools as it was deemed that it was better for those children to be among their own kind whereas the children who didn't go to grammar schools would go into secondary moderns which taught less academic subjects. It's what Germany has atm and what we used to have before our moronic and 1960s dogmatic political class abolished them all.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

Selective education, ie the grammar school system whereby the most academic children were seperated at around age 11 and put into seperate schools as it was deemed that it was better for those children to be among their own kind whereas the children who didn't go to grammar schools would go into secondary moderns which taught less academic subjects. It's what Germany has atm and what we used to have before our moronic and 1960s dogmatic political class abolished them all.

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So because my school is failing, should I suffer? I'm not extremely smart but I'm not totally stupid.

I can remember doing this before in drama... something to do with Barrenness T.

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Originally Posted by Skandair

What do you mean by selection? (Sorry about my blonde moment life)

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Don't you think teachers would get breaks to though? I doubt they'd have to teach for 9 hours a day. :)

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ah **** I thought this meant the 6 weeks etc would be gone, that's what I meant by breaks

'cause I heard they're trying to get rid of the holidays kids have

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Originally Posted by Futz

ah **** I thought this meant the 6 weeks etc would be gone, that's what I meant by breaks

'cause I heard they're trying to get rid of the holidays kids have

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I doubt we will ever work 52 weeks a year haha. I think the 6 weeks holidays need lowering to 2 - 3 weeks.

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Originally Posted by Skandair

So because my school is failing, should I suffer? I'm not extremely smart but I'm not totally stupid.

I can remember doing this before in drama... something to do with Barrenness T.

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Who suggested you suffer? The point in selection is that we realise and accept that some people are more academic than others and thus they should be seperated and put among their own kind (the top 30% odd) where they can work faster, take on harder work and work generally in an environment which is more suited to academic learning.

Selection also gives the brighter kids who are poor a better chance at climbing the social mobility ladder as under grammar schools those kids who were bright but poor had the chance to go to a top quality school whereas now they're forced to go to crap local comprehensives - the wealthy meanwhile can simply pay and send their children to top private/religious schools.

That's why it's always remarkable to see how many of the Labour frontbench (the people who brought us comprehensive schools) send their children to the few remaining grammar schools, independent schools or move into a wealthy area to get into a good comprehensive state school - whereas the rest of us have no choice but to attend the crap local comprehensive that's more like a zoo than it is a school.

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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-

Who suggested you suffer? The point in selection is that we realise and accept that some people are more academic than others and thus they should be seperated and put among their own kind (the top 30% odd) where they can work faster, take on harder work and work generally in an environment which is more suited to academic learning.

Selection also gives the brighter kids who are poor a better chance at climbing the social mobility ladder as under grammar schools those kids who were bright but poor had the chance to go to a top quality school whereas now they're forced to go to crap local comprehensives - the wealthy meanwhile can simply pay and send their children to top private/religious schools.

That's why it's always remarkable to see how many of the Labour frontbench (the people who brought us comprehensive schools) send their children to the few remaining grammar schools, independent schools or move into a wealthy area to get into a good comprehensive state school - whereas the rest of us have no choice but to attend the crap local comprehensive that's more like a zoo than it is a school.

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During my first few years at school I was terrible at it... now I'm one of the smartest in my year (for subjects like English, drama, busines... it's a really bad school okay) and I would of missed out on that school because I started late. Like everything, it's flawed.

I like the idea but I can see people slipping through. It just doesn't seem fair. :)