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tooclose posted a very good thread earlier today, which got mew thinking, when does a little smack given to a child by their parents, become child abuse. we talked aboiut this in my english class briefly, but it is not that i realy go back and think about it.
do u agree with hitting children as a punishment? and when does it become child abuse?
too see the origional thread by tooclose that origionally goit me thinking Click here
Moved to new Debate forum, this seems like a debate :)- Butcher11
Now thats a realy hard question.I d say its when the reason is whenist not for the best intentiosn for teh child, but to acatly hurt them, and taking there anger out. Athogh this acvcnot always be the case its a realy diffacult question ? :/
you see, some parents insist on beating their children to get a point across that something is wrong, as the child cannot communicate by means of verbal talk, but doen;t that teach the child that violence is the right way to deal with a situation?
i think that is to do with age, a very young child will not think about violence in that way, but an older child may well do.
It has been said that it only counts as child abuse when the child is left with a bruse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mendonky
personaly i think it should be banned and your not allowed to hit your children!
ive been hit b4 and trust me it hurts!
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yes but being hit is not necessarily child abuse, many parents smack their children to put them in line, and sometimes its a good thing.
mayb it is slightly neccisairy when the child has no understanding of verbal language but some parents automaticaly hit their children for domestic problems eg. being too noisy, making a mess etc, i belive that is not right.
as for the situation where a bruise if left behind, some children even at an early age do not bruise easily at all, i think the law should be more specifies in their definition of child abuse
Younger children would be more sensible to violence by being hit, because at least older kids know it's wrong. You should never hit your child,
:eusa_naug
The only thing I'd agree with is when say they reach out to steal something and a tiny*non hurting* slap on the wrist. Any other hitting should be against the law.
thats what i meant. a tap on the wrist is nessicairy to give a strong, firm message, but when it is used too often, then the child either ignores it, or begins to think that violence is perfectly ok, which it isn't. some oarents who slap their children around the face etc are simply sick in the head if u ask me. it should be used as a LAST RESORT AND A LAST RESORT ONLY.
But Concentric, in what ways would it be good? Yes, it would temporarily put them in order, but what happens if it occurs all the time. it's thought rapist and violence traits run in families, why pass it on by hitting your children?
i think that spanking the kid on the butt not very hard but to teach them not to do it again is ok.
but shaking the POOP out of them and smacking them and hiting them with belts giving them welts that is child abbuse :eusa_thin
Talking is the key for any gd relationship
I think when your parents give you a slap or something for misbehaving, it is for the best. Being shouted at doesn't always work for some children.. It depends how and why you hit the child, which would be classes as Child Abuse.
Child abuse can also hurt the adult too, if it goes on, the child, as it grows and is still physically punished grows anger inside, and when finally, all the pressure inside explodes causing the (grown up) child to do something to the parent.
So i think child abuse is wrong.
Being hit or a week of grounding?
well , i'd sooner have a hit than a week of grounding , a hit only hurts for a while , whereas grounding is borin'
What do you mean by banned? You can't temporarely ban child abuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by miss-t
To make it simple: Child abuse is illegal. - But I don't really care. My parents are nice to me.
thats not fair danks, you cannot be like that, only caring about ur own life. every day there are children abused, aqnd there are those of us that are trying to help. but the fact is, sometimes its not the parents abusing the child, ever heard of a "rougue baby sitter"? these are people who work as babysitters and abuse the child, and make excuses that the child "fell" or "bumped their head". these excuses are also used by the parents that abuse their child. this is sickening.
If I was a father I'd use smacking a kid the last resort if they were very badly behaved. I was smacked as a little kid, and it was for the most stupid things. It damages their self esteem, but when physical punishment is used at the right times, I would say it's quite effective. Got me pretty well behaved.. so hmm..
I'm against all hitting. And especially spanking, where kids are taught not to touch others people butts. That just throws away the concept of leaving people's bodies alone.
Parents who sexually abuse their children should get the death penalty :@ :@
but this does not answer when does punishment become child abuse, does it?Quote:
Originally Posted by AvengeX
I think most of us have had more than a smack before, and when I was younger I'd fear my parents, I don't know whether this is a good or bad thing, it make you stop being 'naughty', but it also makes you real upset, I think it should be banned.
ok, to be honest i would say thats a bad thing. if u fear you parents, that will cause further problems in life. ur parents should be the people you love most in life, its not right to fear them, how can you talk to them about problems knowing that they mght fly off the handel and start hitting you?
Abusing children is wrong and sometimes they are sexually abused!
I mainly think people who abuse children are pedophiles.
I personally think its right to hit a child for them to get the concept , whatever the reason may be. Although I have been child abused before when I was young I still think it was right to hit me In some cases. How hard you hit them is the real question. So what is that thin red line that we all seek? Well thats all up to the government. But think about it if we didnt have a government to guide us and let us do whatever we want to our children? Unfortunately for most of you It is not frowned upon to hit a child. Maybe by younger folk like most of you don't like it but i believe its neccesary for a child to learn the lesson. But i do believe that it should be talked out verbally first BEFORE you resort to violence. Well that's this old dogs' opinion. Well if you dont wanna be hit just dont do anything wrong! Plain and simple. :D
We're talking about kicks, punching, winding, bruising and rarely stabbing here. These are the serious child abusing things.
Come on! a full grown adult hitting a child! Thats loony to me! I mean, Size difference! I think it is completely wrong and no parent should do it! Think of a simpler way such as banning them from doing something or grounding them or sumthin. I have never been hit just to say :eusa_naug Its worng to hit children :eusa_naug :eusa_naug
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Originally Posted by Mendonky
That's Dansk, not Danks.
I'm not saying anything about the morals in child abuse. It's just something I don't think about. So I don't really care.
I havent, just a simple slap. If I was that adult or parent, I would look that son or daughter of mine in the eyes and most likely break down or grab hold of her/him before it was to late to stop myself, I would just calmly say 'Go to bed please <insert name here>
IT IS NOT BANNED! IT IS ILLEGAL!Quote:
Originally Posted by .x-aimee-x.
It's against the law! Simple as that! Don't use that stupid banned phrase.
Gomme but sometimes they dont do what you ask so what are you supposed to do then? You tell me :)
Banned means temporarily sometimes, it was made illegal a year or something wasnt it, maybe longer or shorter.
Child abuse has never been temporarely banned. This isen't Habbo.Quote:
Originally Posted by GommeInc
You need to read further up, she said banned and it made it sound like habbo lol! When was it made illegal no questions asked?
alrite calm itQuote:
Originally Posted by Dansk
size?? that doesnt matter im only 13 and im 6ft that doesnt give me the right to hit a child if thats what u mean....?Quote:
Originally Posted by frontslide
Lol 6FT?!?
Yeah I was abused for a very short while but only small hittings but I grew with it. It was only a hit in the arm or a slap around the face or a ruler on the wrist but nothing reall outragous.
Extream child abuse is wrong and If it was me who saw them I would string them up by there *you know what* and whack them good and hard! Like at my old school *soon* Punch there gut till they bleed dark blood.
It makes me angry.
.. ***. So you're tall? Do you think we're impressed? I'm 16 and higher than you. WOHAHAHAH OMFG!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ciaran
:Illusion - Stick to the topic and don't be rude to any other members.
I dont fink he woz tryin 2 sho off
Of course it is. He might be taller than his father. But his father can kick his ***.Quote:
Originally Posted by .x-aimee-x.
Edit- Do not swear it's againbst the forum rules- Butch
dansk, he wsasn;t trying to show off, so plz calm down, and respect other people's posts. he was trying to point out that size doesn' matter, that the child could be realy tall, but still only be realy young, and emotionally immature.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dansk