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sorry for the capital title but still, look at the bbc.co.uk headlines
Israel bomb 'kills UN observers'
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/image...22_khiamap.jpg Israel had hit Khiam a number of times earlier on Tuesday
Four United Nations peacekeepers have been killed in an Israeli air strike on an observation post in southern Lebanon, the UN has said.
EDIT: i aint being offensive as i am israeli
Lol@them.
Not taking sides but I pity Lebanon, more people killed and buildings destroyed. Israel are sick "/
i am israeli but i mean come on israeli thats not right!
I think ima go n roundhouse kick Israel.
go on kick me then? as i am from there?
i don't get whats actually going on.
me either, I never get any of this war/politics rubbish. We can be dumb together.Quote:
Originally Posted by issaa.
hezbollah kidnapped 3 israeli soliders killed 1 and throw bombs into israel so israel started attacking lebanon where hezbollah are based and then they declared war on israel so israel are just using there arming and blowing the hell outta hezbollah/lebanon
I don't think what Isreal is doing is right but Lebanon brought it on themselves by taken those Isreali soldiers and not releasing them.
it wasnt lebanon who kidnapped them it was hezbollah, sorry to have a go heere but i wish people would get it right! lebanon and israel never had anything againist each other til hezbollah came along, oh ye syria and iran now have a reason to attack israel, maybe my grandperants will have to use there bombshelter :(
Apparently these Israeli soldiers were attacking Lebanon, so Israel is to blame.Quote:
Originally Posted by lHydra
EDIT: So were these Israeli soldiers going after Hezbollah?
dude get your facts right!, they where standing there doing there job being flippin security at the border, israel where busy fighting down at the gaza strip and west bank! :@
For those who dont know, a group called Hezbollah (sp?) kidnapped 3 Isreali soldiers-- so naturally Isreal desided to kill hundreds Lebanese (who have nothing to do with it) for no reason.
And to make it even better, every country is calling for Isreali cease-fire, except for the country that controls them ( because they gave them the guns for this war in the first place), THE U.S.! Yay for us! Heaven forbid the president do something the rest of the world wants him to do.
To be honest, I think this was a bit foolish of Isreal. But, I don't sympathise with Hezbollah, they are a terrorist organisation, and were voted in by the Lebanese, some now dislike them. They kidnapped isreali soldiers.. why shouldn't Isreal react? I know other countries would do something similar to regain their men.
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Originally Posted by PostgreSQL
Who raided who?Quote:
Originally Posted by BBC
I find it rather funny how Israel is killing more civilians than army/Hezbollah people, so that is my reason for taking the Lebanon side of this conflict. I fear for Lebanon, not Hezbollah.
israel designed alot of the us weapons and us built them and gave them in return, the uk want israel to carry on so do us and alot of the bigger countrys that realise hezbollah are a huge threat, people don't realise that they are they did have connection will 9/11 aswell and alot of other huge attacks on israel, the leader of hezbollah has known to have been in touch with osama binladen on tapes been posted on the internet, every terriost group is a threat!
to gommeinc: israel have now attacked hezbollah bases etc in lebanon, yes they have done it with alot of deaths and i dont disagree with that, buit now iran and syria will get involved and there is no question of how, or why, its a matter of when this shows great threat to israel is it will be fighting on 50-60% of the border, iran also have this nuclear missle thing going on at the moment. israel are trying to get rid of a link of terroist groups and if this is how it will be done it will have to be, loads of peopel died in 9/11 and israel have suffereed over 500-1000 deaths a year due to suicide bombs no body realised that all these are some what way conencted to hezbollah
So the reason for bombing and missiling innocent Lebonese people is...? And the reason behind air rading innocent UN people is...?Quote:
Originally Posted by PostgreSQL
What I find amusing is Israel and America are similar in a way, spilling innocent blood. Iraq and civilians and allies! America missiled a convoy in Iraq which had the UN flag on and they also shot many civilians and tortured many people because they were bored. Although Israel hasn't tortured anyone, they do seem to like killing hundreds of innocent people, especially in a convoy..
A problem with this, Israel aren't even bothering about the fact they are killing civilians. They destroyed a convoy which had a bus filled with children in, and missiled buildings besides a beach. Where were the Hezbollah in that?! They seemed to of just randomly missiled and asked questions later "/Quote:
to gommeinc: israel have now attacked hezbollah bases etc in lebanon, yes they have done it with alot of deaths and i dont disagree with that, buit now iran and syria will get involved and there is no question of how, or why, its a matter of when this shows great threat to israel is it will be fighting on 50-60% of the border, iran also have this nuclear missle thing going on at the moment. israel are trying to get rid of a link of terroist groups and if this is how it will be done it will have to be, loads of peopel died in 9/11 and israel have suffereed over 500-1000 deaths a year due to suicide bombs no body realised that all these are some what way conencted to hezbollah
Then why didnt they do something about it earlier? Why does it take the kidnapping of soldiers to relize that terrorists are a threat? Is this really about anti-terrorism, or is it about the kidnapping of their soldiers? Everyone is saying something different.Quote:
Originally Posted by PostgreSQL
The UN are surpose to say where they wil be at a certain time, and they didn't say where they were, plus israel have leads on every place where hezbollah leaders and worked stay etc. alot of there bomb bases as they are called are located in high populated areas, such as next to the airport etc, the highest threat is next to a school of what israel know
to red: hezbollah arent the highest of well known terroist groups israel decided to take it, slowly at first asking for them back hezbollah disagreed with this action and throw bombs into israel and declared israel to war, at first israel resisted but then realised this was getting serious, iranian and syrian hezbollah rockets where found aswell which is why israel has had to step up the attacks if they attack quickly, yes it causes alot of ddeaths it will have to be done but if it draws out more and more it will kill more, and maybe from differant contries as i have sed iran and syria
Why does it have to be this extreme? I dont get it. If they could communicate with Hezbollah, why cant we find them and kill them where they are? It doesnt make any sense to just throw random bombs.Quote:
Originally Posted by PostgreSQL
I think they are working on the "Bomb now, ask questions later" tactic. Or they really don't care who they're attacking. There is no good answer for this random bombings.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedStratocas
Has that tactic ever REALLY worked?Quote:
Originally Posted by GommeInc
hezbollah don't like the west, or israel, they are agianist both they don't want to give up they want to destroy both they don't realise they don't have the strength they believe they can do it however they, wish, and again back to the iranian nuclear missle thing, hezbollah have faith iran will use it againist israel if it ever suceeds getting built, there is no way of stopping how it is happening frankly i wish it could aswell, communication is only via the hezbollah member of "parliment" in lebanon, don't ask its a very long story hezbollah show there lower members, where they are positioned etc but the people at the people at the top of it are hard to find
2 gommeinc: as i have already said each bomb is strategic, there has been only 3 reported misses on hezbollah areas and a member(s) of hezbollah have been killed, tbh i would like to see you aim a shell out of a tank and get it on target and not kill innocent lifes?
Why would I use a tank? Get men in there "/ That's what they were trained to do! If I was this Defence Minister or whatever they call the Israeli attack person, I would ask whoever defends or runs Lebanon to allow my men to go in to these Hezbollah areas and take them like that, then resort to war if they decline. But I wouldn't be incredibly stupid enough to randomly bomb or fire shells at random. Perhpas that is what this Israeli Defence, War thing is, an incredibly stupid idiot. Surely it would be more easier to take them head on rather than be stupid and fire from a long range?Quote:
Originally Posted by PostgreSQL
the israeli army is ran differantly they always have tanks etc on stand by due to them fighting everyday pretty much they have just recently had a call up for 10000 men in israel so they are now geting ready to go in on foot, but think about it a rocket fired at a building can blow it up, and this is a hezbollah rocket, now imagine 1000 man brigade going into lebanon with no strong protection and hezbollah got perfect aim and hit them they have a radius of 50m metres on them with metal inside the rocket i think more men will die this way don't you?
Well hezbollah practically run the government in lebanon so I spose it is understandable why israel is blowing up lebanon. They did say they are taking care not to attack or injure civillians but I think they are making a half hearted effort.
As we can obviously see from this UN death situation
Ok, my take on it is this.
hezbollah = problem
From Israils point of view
hezbollah a terrorist group whom reside in lebanon attack israel there fireing missles, and kidnaping soldures.
Israel cant exsactly sit back and let them do this, it has to deffened itself, so it does so, the terrorist are in lebanon so they go over to get them.
Lebanon which realy has nothing to do with the terrorsits is then getting bombed by israel whom are after hezbollah. So theres under attack, but cant realy do much without declaring war on Isreal, so are kinda stuck.
The big problem is that lebanon has no control over hezbollah, but hezbollah are pulling them in to a fight they dont want to be be in.
Israel is basily walking in to hezbollah's hand, if they create a conflict then iran will probaly use it as an excuse to join in and pretty much set about what its been clameing to want to do, and pretty much wipe both contarys off the map.
So hezbollah cause the probelm. And israil are walking directy in to there trap. hezbollah are gorrilla fighters, they draw in isreal, but they can hide and get out the way, so isreal just ends up hurting innaccent lesbonese people insted of the targets.
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Originally Posted by ChuckNorris
I just love your "I don't give a crap" attitude. :P
Even though this is quite serious.
way to go isreal. i smell a war.
What I think. War sucks, isn't there enough death without war making more?
They're going to Hell.
For once Mary darling, I totally agree with you...Quote:
Originally Posted by Virgin Mary
Me either lol :[Quote:
Originally Posted by issaa.
To mary i could take that as a racist comment and the perverse, am i going to hell? no I don't think so, so wish up with your pathetic answers
She doesn't mean YOU and neither do I. She means those that are killing each other that don't need to. It could be stopped...
I was referring to those who are currently engaged in a pointless war.
Killing can't be stopped its a fact of life and frankly get use to it! you didn't hear all these problems when america and uk first hit iraq due to everyone knowing the facts about iraq, and becuase of who it was, yes there was complaints by certain groups etc but nothing to huge, israel are a hated country due to the religious belief it is known that the pope now was in the SS and very anti-israeli, the talks are getting held in rome aswell its a differcult time for israel and if this is how they feel they ned to do it let them do it!
Well Israel is mainly Jews and Muslims so I don't see why the Pope should hate the country :l
anti-semitic (i think thats the word) and the SS was the organsastion to do with the holocaust aswell