Lmao at you Habbox

I love how the price of the throne is going down. Don't you see the price is going down because YOU MAKE IT GO DOWN. Don't give me **** about experts going and getting the prices from trading rooms. Right now its at 15.5 hcs, so people trade for 15, then you make it go down to 15. People at trading at 15 because YOU MADE THE PRICE GO DOWN. I really think you should look around and fix your problems because there was no reason why the throne should have gone down except that you made it. Give the people on habbo a break for once.

Edited by Brownpride91: Please only rare trading in this thread


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I Totally Agree

i disagree .
if habbo are buying them and offer more then what habbox value show ,sure we rise up ,but now the throne value keep droping down because alot habbo are selling for less and less .They sell the throne and restock new rare that come out on catalog .

if habbo keep selling throne for 15hcs and what for we set 16hcs and not change the value to 15hcs ( NOT BALANCE if we dint change the value ) .

alot thing happen after rare come out on catalog ,like the old rare come out ,petal come out , all super ,normal and seasonal rare including throne come out on the catalog for 10 minutes .That is because the hotel problem.
we have to give the correct value .

Actually people are offering more/less for items. And the rare valuers are just sharing there ideas and in the end they get a average. So it is fair, your just stupid. :eusa_snoo :p

i agree, habbox is SETTING the values, everytime you go to rare trades, they always say habbox says that and that

so DOWNHABBOX

99% of the trade rooms and shops go with habbox values, and they always want profit so... atm they will trade for less then habbox. Then it does down more...

No one likes to trade above the habbox value so it just keeps going down

I do think its a good idea on showing values however you should make it more clear that it is a 'guide'. I know its on the page but in the smallest font ever :p

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Originally Posted by Eric30

99% of the trade rooms and shops go with habbox values, and they always want profit so... atm they will trade for less then habbox. Then it does down more...

No one likes to trade above the habbox value so it just keeps going down

I do think its a good idea on showing values however you should make it more clear that it is a 'guide'. I know its on the page but in the smallest font ever :p

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Dont make me laugh, about 3% of casinos go with habbox values.

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Originally Posted by :kader

Dont make me laugh, about 3% of casinos go with habbox values.

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I never said casino :s

3% only ??
i think 65% casino go on habbox ,atcualy most trader dint follow habbox value ,they keep trading and know which value is droping and which is rising so some habbo and casino not following any site value .
Rare guide helping the people who dunno the value without scammed by the people who want get alot profit .Especially in shop and trade room .

That is why alot habbo go on habbox value ,but only little people disagree .
maybe they cant get what they want ....

To be honest, we dont know anything at all so i think u should all just go and trade ur rares for a price u think reasonable, especially as habbox says the values are a 'guide'

I'll explain their system of RV's very quickly at the time I was a trial RV-reporter.
Several reporters post their list of several rares in a forum.
Then the manager(s) of RV take an average of them all.
Offcourse, silly posts like: 1 CS for a throne will not be calculated into that average.
Then the average is showed on the page. Habbox does not set these values.
The people interpretate them as the rare values.
I personally didn't know Habbox till about a year ago and used my own values.
(I remember trading my samovar for some norms at the time I just joined Habbo.)
So accusing Habbox of setting the values is wrong, it is you who should be accused of making such an insinuation and trying to cause a rebellian versus Habbox.

this is olde news weve known this for ages

I do think that it is a very sad state of affairs to think that most of the Habbo population cannot trade without having to quote a website. Being told that you're ripping the person of 0.1HC Sofas is indeed they most annoying thing that goes on in a trade room (closely followed by being offered amazingly "pure" HCs).

With the so-called messiah of a site Habboxic rising up as a strong contender for an official fansite - despite being incredibly poorly presented and most of it's features being "under construction" - they too are implementing a rare value set-up which is akin to that of Habbox in a very uncanny fashion. Again I find this very unfortunate...

As I have said many times before, the only progress that can be made for these rare value structures (if they must exist) to give greater diversity in trading is to employ a maximum/minimum approach.

Eg. (Minimum) 15HC <---- Throne ----> 16.5HC (Maximum)

No need to point out that these aren't the correct values, it's just an example.

Thanks, Bear-Max.

To the people that talked about habbox setting the prices. The throne was being traded at 17.5 - 18 hcs around a month ago, i am an experienced trader on habbo and not once did i see someone trade for 16 - 16.5. Then all of a sudden, habbox drops the price of thrones, what happens? thrones are now being sold at 16. Then habbox drops the price to 15.5 and people trade for 15. Habbox is NOT an accurate way of pricing rares because you influence the traders in habbo wayyyy too much. You may not exactly "set" the prices, but when you drop a price for no apparent reason, habbo follows and you feel justified that you did a good job.

It is true, i'm just speaking for the people that think that habbox is ****** the people trying to profit and you go and ***** the system up. When i was a noob i knew nothing about habbox, so i asked my friends for the values that they thought were right for rares, so i traded for those prices. Those prices were most likely influenced by you, so in effect, you are ******* up the prices in habbo.

I'm bringing up the subject because its okay you pricing lesser rares, but when you start to influence the price of thrones, which in effect changes the price of super rares, which messes up profits, which trickles down to mess up the noobs again. If you take the throne out of the rare trades guide then i think you will help habbos ALOT because you say your here to help the noobs, well guess what, noobs don't have thrones, so you don't really have to have the throne in there now do you?


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Originally Posted by inn0

I love how the price of the throne is going down. Don't you see the price is going down because YOU MAKE IT GO DOWN. Don't give me **** about experts going and getting the prices from trading rooms. Right now its at 15.5 hcs, so people trade for 15, then you make it go down to 15. People at trading at 15 because YOU MADE THE PRICE GO DOWN. I really think you should look around and fix your problems because there was no reason why the throne should have gone down except that you made it. Give the people on habbo a break for once.

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Hmm errors can happen. Beside, it can be due to the main changements of prizes that happened in Habbo Hotel.

The throne started to go down when it was in the catalog for that short time acidently.When people saw the throne went down they thought they would trade all there thrones just in case they go down a lot more.
Because there was more thrones out there which people were tradeing the price went down.

The throne is going to keep going down, and it started going down before habbo messed up and released the super rares in the catalog so shhhh that person. Also, if habbo gives thrones out as prizes that doesn't change the price because its not like they give out 200 thrones, because that would change the price, they maybe give out 1 or 2 per week

I go by my own rules, if they say 'I go with Habbox's prices' I tell them Habbox or any other site for that fact does not have the right values, none do, either my way or the high way.

Yes, that may be so, (in reply to guy above) but Habbox affects the rare trading in habbo so much that it pretty much cripples individualists who go by their own prices. Go try and sell a throne for 18 hcs right now and i BET you that you won't get anyone dumb enough to buy. Why is this? This is because habbox reported a lower price than was actually real and the ****** on habbo followed them.


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Thats so true. You IF you did that you probly wont get it. :p

I also want to say something about the values,
Habbox are voted #1 for best fansite and you hardley update the values.
Right now the last time you updated it was sunday, and prices change.

I think that if one habbo offers 16 hc and another offers 15
it should be 15.5 thats my opinion.
and so on......

www.stophabbox.tk

Petition to try to get habbox to stop changing the price to what they want for no reason.

If you agree with my cause please sign it.

OK you people always complain. First it is c'mon change the rare values change the rare values, that makes us change it very fast and if we only see people offering 13 or 14 hcs for a throne (like I see sometimes) we need to change the value of the throne. And when we changed it you keep complaining, you changed it to low c'mon raise it. I think if we raised all the values with 5hcs nobody complaines but that's not gonna happen because nobody offers 6.5hc for an aloe vera. And another thing, if you disagree with the value, send us the values you think are correct, maybe we agree so the values might go up or down. And anothet thing, when they released all the rares for I dont know how long and everybody bought them, you think it's weird values go down, say for yourself, if you buy 15 rare gold for 15 credits (they were 1 credits right??) you would sell them for 3 thrones instead of 3 thrones and 4hcs like they were back then. And those you would sell those throne for 15 hcs so you are sure you will sell them. So you have a profit of 1000's of credits on hc sofas. That made the thrones go down so don't blame us blame to hotel for releasing those rares.

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Originally Posted by Bear-Max

I do think that it is a very sad state of affairs to think that most of the Habbo population cannot trade without having to quote a website. Being told that you're ripping the person of 0.1HC Sofas is indeed they most annoying thing that goes on in a trade room (closely followed by being offered amazingly "pure" HCs).

With the so-called messiah of a site Habboxic rising up as a strong contender for an official fansite - despite being incredibly poorly presented and most of it's features being "under construction" - they too are implementing a rare value set-up which is akin to that of Habbox in a very uncanny fashion. Again I find this very unfortunate...

As I have said many times before, the only progress that can be made for these rare value structures (if they must exist) to give greater diversity in trading is to employ a maximum/minimum approach.

Eg. (Minimum) 15HC <---- Throne ----> 16.5HC (Maximum)

No need to point out that these aren't the correct values, it's just an example.

Thanks, Bear-Max.

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yah ,we have make the poll about range value and exact value last time but exact value win .

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Originally Posted by inn0

To the people that talked about habbox setting the prices. The throne was being traded at 17.5 - 18 hcs around a month ago, i am an experienced trader on habbo and not once did i see someone trade for 16 - 16.5. Then all of a sudden, habbox drops the price of thrones, what happens? thrones are now being sold at 16. Then habbox drops the price to 15.5 and people trade for 15. Habbox is NOT an accurate way of pricing rares because you influence the traders in habbo wayyyy too much. You may not exactly "set" the prices, but when you drop a price for no apparent reason, habbo follows and you feel justified that you did a good job.

It is true, i'm just speaking for the people that think that habbox is bull****ting the people trying to profit and you go and ***** the system up. When i was a noob i knew nothing about habbox, so i asked my friends for the values that they thought were right for rares, so i traded for those prices. Those prices were most likely influenced by you, so in effect, you are *****ing up the prices in habbo.

I'm bringing up the subject because its okay you pricing lesser rares, but when you start to influence the price of thrones, which in effect changes the price of super rares, which messes up profits, which trickles down to mess up the noobs again. If you take the throne out of the rare trades guide then i think you will help habbos ALOT because you say your here to help the noobs, well guess what, noobs don't have thrones, so you don't really have to have the throne in there now do you?

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pls read this again .
if habbo are buying them and offer more then what habbox value show ,sure we rise up ,but now the throne value keep droping down because alot habbo are selling for less and less .They sell the throne and restock new rare that come out on catalog .

if habbo keep selling throne for 15hcs and what for we set 16hcs and not change the value to 15hcs ( NOT BALANCE if we dint change the value ) .

alot thing happen after rare come out on catalog ,like the old rare come out ,petal come out , all super ,normal and seasonal rare including throne come out on the catalog for 10 minutes .That is because the hotel problem.
we have to give the correct value .

callie keep give away throne will just making the value drop .

The problem is, the price of the throne dropped before habbo messed up and released all the rares in the catalog. I just feel that is habbox stopped moving the price of the throne and then you feel justified when people do trade the price that you put, but its really that people are trading at your values rather than the actual values. If another site says the throne is 18 hcs and Habbox says its 15, then who wins, Habbox does, then the other site will have to bring the price that they have down. You influence everything too much and if you took the throne out of your rares guide, then the real price would be in habbo and you wouldn't be hurt. If someone is trading thrones, or trading for them, then they are smart enough to find the right price before trading, and with your prices, the people find it easier to use your prices that are infact wrong, so then the rare market changes to your price.

Habbox Rare Tradin Staff are Out For Ages To Get the Values There Not Like "O lets put throne down for sake of it" Its not Like..
and its Only a guide Not Everyone Goes With It..

I trade frequently, (before I joined habbox), and most of your claims that furni goes down after habbox lowers it is false lol. I've been trading, and although I think a trading guide on the site at all is maybe not the best idea, I know of alot of people who need the guide to trade without being ripped off.
A range value would be ok, but also, if most people are giving 16 hc for a throne, but the range says 15.5-16.5, how do u know if 16 hcs is good for your T, or if you should wait for 16.5?, which may never happen.

And Jamie- I'm sure it isn't that quick and easy to just update the values daily, although 5 days is a while.

Um, I would like to point out where it says 'You should go by Habbox's Values on Habbo or 'You should go by these prices in Habbox's Rare Values. We don't have to follow their values, you can go by your own as long as they aren't ridiculous

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Originally Posted by inn0

The problem is, the price of the throne dropped before habbo messed up and released all the rares in the catalog. I just feel that is habbox stopped moving the price of the throne and then you feel justified when people do trade the price that you put, but its really that people are trading at your values rather than the actual values. If another site says the throne is 18 hcs and Habbox says its 15, then who wins, Habbox does, then the other site will have to bring the price that they have down. You influence everything too much and if you took the throne out of your rares guide, then the real price would be in habbo and you wouldn't be hurt. If someone is trading thrones, or trading for them, then they are smart enough to find the right price before trading, and with your prices, the people find it easier to use your prices that are infact wrong, so then the rare market changes to your price.

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I dont think aother site value always update ,but habbox value always update .That is why alot habbo go on habbox value .
Not everyone is following the habbox value ,some will offer more or some will offer less .
Rare Guide is just helping newbie or the habbo who need help .

just say that you dont go by habbox, like how i say on habbo USA with that dumb totallyhabbo site.

lol totallyhabbo, what a messed up name lol.

Back to business, values are a guide, guide don't have to read, they are their to guide you

Our values are based on the average. And i personally, have seen many throne be sold for 14.5 hcs. However, some are sold for more, such as 15.5 Hcs. Therefore we make our rare value guide as accurate as possible by making an average. Which happens to be 15 Hcs at the moment, for the throne.
If you disagree, with the rare value guide, then dont use it.
We ONLY show the values, we see being traded.
We do not make them up, ourselves.
So if the value drops, people are clearly selling them for less.

Maybe you want us to rise them, coz you have some. And dont want to make a loss ?

Swearing is for low socialites and idiots.

And you are wrong, loads of trade places hate habbox and dont go by their rules. Get your facts right please.

Oh give me a break. Even if the rare trades owners hate habbox, people go by habbox values. You obviously don't know what your talking about because who on habbo is trading thrones for 18 hcs, no one. Guess why that is, oo its because habbox has the throne at 15 hcs.

the way i think things work with these rare values is :

habbox sets throne to 15hcs because they see people offing that for em and ppl then think oh ill try and get it cheaper by offering 14.5hcs then the habbox rare valuers see that and then set it to 14.5hcs

swing around in circles see

We do not force anyone into using out guide. Therefore we arent to blame. Also, we dont lower our values, until we see people accepting that. So many people must accept under or above what we suggest, before we change.
If you dont like the habbox rare value guide, dont use it. Its simple. And you are never forced to use our guides, just because others are.
If there are really so many of you, then surely you can trade each other ?
So you dont need to trade the people who follow habbox's guide. You can just trade with each other.
However, if you really want to get the values correct. DON'T go anti-habbox and complain. Either, get a job here and help change them. Coz if your as smart as you say you are, you will have no problem with gettin a job. OR only accept, what you think is right. Then when people pay that, out values will change, to what you think anyway.
So if you disagree with our guide. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, and stop complaining !
If your really that annoyed, you wont complain, you will take some action.
And if you dnt take any action, I'll take that as you dont disagree, so much after all.
Got It ?

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Oh give me a break. Even if the rare trades owners hate habbox, people go by habbox values. You obviously don't know what your talking about because who on habbo is trading thrones for 18 hcs, no one. Guess why that is, oo its because habbox has the throne at 15 hcs.

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Without Habbo, they might be less you idiot. Don't you have a brain?

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Originally Posted by GommeInc

Without Habbo, they might be less you idiot. Don't you have a brain?

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Umm without Habbo they would be 0 because there would be nothing. Are you seriously stupid, i mean i don't want to get into a fight about this, but you say this random stuff like you just said. I mean what the hell does "Without habbo they might be less" have to do with what i said. It is true but its also a very stupid comment. I think you meant without habbox they might be less, but thats not true because people thought thrones were cool until they started getting downgraded by a site we wont name...

Yeh i have to admit i didnt think people went out and looked for rare stuff, at the end of the day all you have to do is offer and people will give you their thoughts