Should drugs be made legal? In the Netherlands most (if not all) drugs are made legal. Far fewer people there take drugs than people in the UK due to it being illegal there (and nearly all places in the world).
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Should drugs be made legal? In the Netherlands most (if not all) drugs are made legal. Far fewer people there take drugs than people in the UK due to it being illegal there (and nearly all places in the world).
Enjoy debating :).
no what s illy thing
NO they are vile.
i wud get high evrday
Pot should be - it goes out of the system in a few weeks and you dont have the NEED for it.
yes let all the half brains who decided to take them waste their life.
yes to releif pain
No because other people may come of harm due to the idiots taking them.
Some should, all class C drugs should be and some class B drugs
I believe the Uk is nicknamed the Welfare state. Would we keep that reputation if we let people kill themselves? And I can imagine the childrens TV adverts now, between episodes of spongebob squarepants:
"Have you tried new CILLIT CRACK?"
im smoking a ****** right now
Yeah, drugs should be made legal along with gun crime and murder.
I think marijuana should be legalized everywhere.
1 - Marijuana isn't as unhealthy as tobacco, and yet tobacco is legal everywhere. There's no PROOF that marijuana causes cancer. I'm not saying it's completely healthy for you but the good outweighs the bad. Marijuana can actually improve you if it's not overused and done in moderation. It makes you more creative and see the world from a different perspective. It also relieves physical (and emotional for some) pain, which is why medical marijuana is legal in about 12 states in the U.S.
2 - Alcohol is a lot worse than marijuana. Alcohol causes way more accidents than pot does, and alcohol makes you a much more reckless driver than pot does. Marijuana typically slows you down, meaning most who made the poor choice of operating a vehicle after taking it would probably just drive really slow, and possibly run a stop sign or a red light. They'd be less likely to swurve off the road into the ditch, or into the wrong lane and hit another car. Also, when people drink too much alcohol they get really sick, or they can even die from alcohol poisoning. The only way you could die from marijuana is if you did something really dangerous, or smoked hundreds or thousands of pounds, which is almost impossible to get ahold of unless you're growing a gigantic field of it. Even then, most people probably wouldn't be able to smoke that much before they fell asleep or something. If you smoke too much marijuana however, you either fall asleep or you can actually become sober.
3 - Governments could make a lot of money off of marijuana. I don't understand a lot of that stuff but if they did legalize it they could make a ton of money from selling it legally. They would also be able to focus on the REAL criminals such as murderers, rapists, bank robbers, etc. instead of overcrowding jails with people who had some pot on them.
4 - Marijuana isn't a gateway drug, regardless of what you've heard. Yeah some people move onto harder drugs but a large majority of the people who do smoke pot just stick with that. It also isn't addictive, meaning you don't get physical symptoms from not having it. You may want it really really bad and go entirely out of your way to get it, but it's nowhere near as bad as meth, heroin, crack, cocaine, prescription pills, etc.
All in all, nothing really bad could come out of legalizing marijuana. Some people would switch from cigarettes and/or alcohol to pot, thus decreasing a lot of unwanted deaths.
As a side note, I don't think other drugs should be legal.
sure you are :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by chineseartist
If drugs are legalised it means government can tax them so they could make money from it
I will never smoke drugs, however I think some of the more minor Class C drugs should be legalised; and if people decide to abuse them then that's their problem.
I certainly don't think any Class B or A drugs should be made legal, they are far too dangerous.
Naw way, Drugs are illegal for a reason, why would they go around schools telling teenagers not to take drugs and making them aware of what drugs do if they are going to make it legal? Don't see it happening if they have spent all that money telling people not to.
dont go off topic -rep i think it shud so i can get weed everyday and smoke for every hour of the day it would be heavenQuote:
Originally Posted by MrLore
YER THEN I CAN SIT IN THE STREET WID MA BONG.
Edited by ---MAD--- (Forum Administrator): Please do not post inappropriate comments.
Well the thing is, drugs are sold behind the police and government's back so they don't make any money out of it unlike smoking cigarettes.
Meanwhile those drivers would become paranoid about trivial things such as cars on the other side of the road hitting them, and would therefore swerve into the nearest building on the left. From what I've heard cannabis makes you more disorientated and "high" than tobacco and is more of a depressant, which slows down reactions, which contrary to what you say ISNT a good thing while driving. Instead of the car bring driven more slowly, the likelihood is that the car will be driven at the same speed and the driver will crash due to delayed reactions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crono
I'm not saying it's a GOOD thing, but it's a lot better than swerving all over the road because you're drunk. The people who are dumb enough to drive drunk are the same people who would drive high. Driving high ISN'T a good idea, but it's not as dangerous as driving drunk. People who use their brains know it's bad to drive while intoxicated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professor-Alex
How was I going off topic, also you have 0 rep power.Quote:
Originally Posted by chineseartist
The thing about legalising drugs is we would need to conside the extra costs of drug related deaths and injuries, as this is a free healthcare state it could be very costly unless they were heavily taxxed. That is why cigarettes are so heavily taxed, the cost near nothing to make but it costs the NHS loads of money every year in hospital bills. This idea would be much more suited to somewhere where you have to pay for healthcare like America.
Nevertheless, a lot of Class A & B Drugs are highly damaging and the legalisation of such drugs would incite many, as well as increase the number of drug related illnesses and deaths because everything would be easy access.Quote:
Originally Posted by ---MAD---
I wouldnt say either is better than the other because they both have the same overall effect: they are depressants and slow down your reactions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crono
For the record I have never been drunk or taken cannabis, or any other illegal drug for that matter
I FAIL TO SEE THE LOGIC HOW YOU DEEM THAT AS AN IMAPPROPRIATE COMMENT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hysteria
however; they shouldn't be legalised.
Yes, at least marijuana should be. No one has died from marijuana, millions have died from tobacco and alcohol, it makes no sense. What people do in the privacy of their home is their business.
Correct, it is a depressant and it's not wise to drive while under the influence of alcohol or marijuana. But, alcohol is legal and yet it has the same, if not a worse effect, as marijuana. Yeah there'd probably be some deaths related to it, but nowhere near as many as alcohol causes. Surely there'd be a law in place restricting driving while under the influence of marijuana as there is with alcohol. It's actually a lot easier to drive high than it is to drive drunk as far as I know. I've been in a car with both drunk (not incredibly drunk, but still drunk) and high drivers. I can tell the difference. Drunk drivers are a lot more reckless and it's harder for them to drive straight, whereas the high drivers I've been with drive the same as when they're sober.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professor-Alex
Some drugs should be made legal, but class A ones i think should still be illegal
No it just encourages crime and early death rates to climb it is not a good idea at all. :(
Not necessarily. A lot of the crimes related to drugs are when people are trying to get them from dealers. I don't think any currently illegal drugs other than marijuana should be legalized, but if it was they would surely have their own buildings and companies for selling them, and people wouldn't get in fights or shot over drugs because it'd be available anytime.Quote:
Originally Posted by opensourcehost
yes, here in iraq it easy to get good drug
As a serious debate topic and not just a yes or no answer I will delve deeper into this and present a real argument.
-- Andrew Meil, M.D.Quote:
A Drug is any substance that in small amounts produces siginificant changes in the body, mind or both
Drugs come in all shape's and sizes, many of them aid as humans medically, this debate is obviously about currently illegal drugs that are used for recreational purposes, however in this argument I will touch over the fact that some recreational drugs can be used for medical purposes.
Many people see all drugs as hugely dangerous things, commonly lethal, this is, simply untrue. I will not deny there are extremely dangerous drugs out these, however there are drugs out there where it is almost impossible to over dose. It is a common myth used by the people come round schools speaking of the dangers of drugs to say that anything can pretty much kill you, whilst drugs such as Heroin, Methadone, DMT and Opiates in general are easy to over dose on, others are near on impossible.
Cannabis, the most commonly taken (illegal) drug in the world is near on impossible to overdose on, with no deaths ever being recorded from an overdose of Cannabis.
LSD, unless you manufacture your own is very very unlikely that you even come close to overdosing on this stuff, the LD-50 of LSD is 12,000 Micrograms, which is up to 240 times the normal dose. Unless you are buying enough trips to last you a few years, and then get hungry to much on paper, I seriously doubt you will die from this drug.
Mushrooms, another similar story, as long as you eat the right damn things and not a poisonous relative, you can munch on these all day long if you want, you won't die but will have an extremely over the top intense trip that would likely freak you out, you won't die, but it won't be pleasant.
Now, if we are talking legalization, of which we are, I do not deny that some drugs should remain illegal, or at least controlled and then slowly ween those who are addicted off of these beasts. But the 3 drugs I listed, and others, such as PURE MDMA (Ecstasy) should be legalised, after all, all our government is going to do is tax them anyway, meaning that the government will make money whilst securing the safest possible drugs for users.
Humans will continue to use drugs whilst we are still in existence, and therefore forcing them into a blackmarket is pointless, many people in high places smoke cannabis, it is a fact, and it is pointless for them too hide such hobbies, a huge percentage of the world population smokes Cannabis.
Cannabis in itself is a much better drug than Alchohol, Alchohol makes people aggressive, and leads people to rash judgements, where as Cannabis invokes great though, after smoking it you can realise how everything works as one, you understand great philosophical problems and some of the greatest thinkers of the world have had their inspiration from smoking Cannabis. It does not make you aggressive, it makes you calm, relaxed and happy.
I have many more points to fire out, however, I have other things to do, so I will return shortly and perhaps fight it out against the doubters replying to me.
- Zephonim
Agreed with the first sentence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crono
I think alcohol is legal where cannabis isnt because it takes a lot more alcohol to have a real psychological effect on you, whereas a comparitively small amount of cannabis and youre off on Mars somewhere.
There isnt a law against driving while on cannabis because cannabis is illegal anyway, so not driving while on it goes without saying. You'd still be prosecuted for dangerous driving anywho
Have you tried weed? It doesn't send you off to Mars or mess you up a lot. Yeah it alters your mind but it doesn't take you to another world. You're still there, just thinking differently and as someone said just recently, makes you put more thought into things. It is illegal to drive under the influence of cannabis. Just because it's not legal most places doesn't mean there isn't a law against driving while on it. It's illegal to have it on you and have it in your car, and obviously driving while on it. The fact that it takes a lot less marijuana to get an affect out of it means people wouldn't overdo it as much as they drink too much alcohol, which is really dangerous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professor-Alex
The problem with this argument Alex is, that although you only need a small amount of Cannabis to be affected, there is a certain threshold where, if you smoke any more, you really aren't going to get any more of an affect, where as, if you drink and drink and drink, you are going down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professor-Alex
After smoking you have ALOT more control over your body then when you are drunk.
No, and I dont intend to. I was just trying to find a psudonym for "getting high" because it sounds too informal :P And im too tired to read the rest and make sense out of it, so Ill stop there :P +rep for being able to argue properly :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Crono
Ooh steve wants a dig at me now :PQuote:
The problem with this argument Alex is, that although you only need a small amount of Cannabis to be affected, there is a certain threshold where, if you smoke any more, you really aren't going to get any more of an affect, where as, if you drink and drink and drink, you are going down.
After smoking you have ALOT more control over your body then when you are drunk.
That threshold also exists with alcohol. Its called being so out of your skull that youre unconcious :P
LIRL!Quote:
Originally Posted by brandon
Drugs ftw :eusa_danc
Aye,Quote:
Originally Posted by Professor-Alex
My argument still maintains, it is extremely rare to blackout from cannabis ;)
everybody loves a toke of mary j, so they shouodl be limited imo
I think, the ones you inject shud stay illegal, and some of the tablets, but I see no problem in legallizing a medicinal drug, such as marijuana, if ppl want to get high y stop them its their choice ;)
Btw the only thing i wud ever touch if i had to wud be weed ;)
So more people take drugs here purely because they are illegal? :SQuote:
Originally Posted by ---MAD---
Right sorry but many of your points are invalid -.-Quote:
Originally Posted by Crono
1- You say marijuana isn't as unhealthy of tobacco but it can contain tobacco and it is addictive in the form that if a smoker is upset they will continue you take it to blot out the "pain". There is different types of addiction.
2 -Again an invalid point. Yea it is dangerous and yea so is alcohol but it has different effects on different people. If a person already has a slight mental problem that has gone undected for year if they are on marijuana and havent had some for a while then their temper can just "explode". Also yes alcohol itself can kill you but so can marijuana but in a different context, if the user is very depressed it can infact cause the user to kill themselves - whatever that way may be whether it is bringing other people with them. Oh and another point, it doesn't slow you down as in being slow it slows your reactions. The car would be a normal speed, the reactions wouldnt
3 - You'll find you dont get jailed for having pot on you but you get a warning, if you get caught a second time you would most likely get a suspended sentence. They do this to stop the dealers as the dealers don't just deal marijuana. Oh and so what if the government can make money? They seem to get enough off us any way.
4 - Marijuana is a gateway drug. Many people use it for years and get used to the "buzz" thus moving onto "heavier" stuff. Also like i've said marijuana does normally contain nicotine which is addictive - making marijuana addictive.
5 - Nothing good would come out of legalising it either. Its illegal for a reason. I know many police and they say the worst thing the government ever did was downgrade pot.