Virginia Tech Massacre

Sad business :(

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2 hour gap between shootings, people say it's two different incidents, quite a coincidence aye.

Edit: They didn't evacuate the school until 2 hours later after the first shooting of 2 people, then a 30 person massacre afterwards. Someone's going to get in trouble for that

These seem to be happening a lot more commonly now, like 4 in the last couple of years..

Beslan School Siege, The private school one etc etc. Proves how easy it is to obtain a gun..

Its bloody sick how someone can do that, and no one is gonna get in trouble he killed himself.

Yes they will, the school will. They didn't lock down the classrooms / evacuate till 2 hours after the 2 fatalities occured. Then somebody who knew something was up got his phone out right next to Norris Hall where the big massacre happened and you could hear the 27 gunshots go off nearby, it's really scary.

I just heard about this, they should either ban guns, make police better and more prepared for such an event or just end school and get kids to learn stuff over the internet. Either of those must happen or it will most likely happen again.

We ban guns in Singapore ;) They should do so in that area too

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Originally Posted by Doomsboy

We ban guns in Singapore ;) They should do so in that area too

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Can't do anything in Singapore, it is so strict :P

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Originally Posted by Aight.

Yes they will, the school will. They didn't lock down the classrooms / evacuate till 2 hours after the 2 fatalities occured. Then somebody who knew something was up got his phone out right next to Norris Hall where the big massacre happened and you could hear the 27 gunshots go off nearby, it's really scary.

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The school wont get in trouble the teachers were in the same situation as the kids how do you expect them to get everyone to evacuate. The police are the ones who should of took control of the situation.

Was there a motive?

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Originally Posted by Kieeran

Was there a motive?

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rumours have it that it was a fellow student from the college.

Nice post count Stoj ;)

Surely they could identify the person even if hes killed himself.

They say it's an Asian student who was wearing a black top and is 6 foot tall.

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Originally Posted by Ryan™

Its bloody sick how someone can do that, and no one is gonna get in trouble he killed himself.

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Thought you Quit habbox?

Edited by micky.blue.eyes (Super Moderator): Please stay on topic.

its terrible, how people can do this.. They have some seriously messed up mind. And yes its crap how the school evacuated only after 2 people got shot, its the schools fault those 30 more people died.

Terrbible. Some people broke their arms, legs and limbs when they jumped from 2nd and 3rd floor buildings trying to escape him

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Originally Posted by Orange Invader

I just heard about this, they should either ban guns, make police better and more prepared for such an event or just end school and get kids to learn stuff over the internet. Either of those must happen or it will most likely happen again.

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even if they do ban guns, it won't prevent it, nor lower the chances of it happening, if someone wants a gun to do harm with it, they'll get a gun.

its the same with drugs, they're banned/illegal, and people still get them.

Where I live your allowed to carry a gun into the mall with you, and theres no more shootings here than in a city that isn't allowed to do that.

Apparently it was a suicidial past-student who seeked revenge on the teacher's who made him fail major exams

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Originally Posted by Doomsboy

We ban guns in Singapore ;) They should do so in that area too

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Too bad it's part of the American constitution :wink_blue

wasnt there a previous incident like this

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Originally Posted by Pokemon

Apparently it was a suicidial past-student who seeked revenge on the teacher's who made him fail major exams

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Apparently he wanted revenge, because his girlfriend recently dumped him...

But it's all rumours. Only beleive what is said via press conferences.

Its a bad thing, but even i could get hold of a gun thse days:(

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Originally Posted by Davetaylor

wasnt there a previous incident like this

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23 killed on Oct. 16, 1991: George Hennard crashes his pickup into a Luby’s Cafeteria in Killeen, Texas, and then opens fire on the people inside before killing himself.


21 killed on July 18, 1984: James Oliver Huberty opens fire at a San Ysidro, Calif., McDonald’s restaurant before a police sniper kills him. His victims include five children and six teenagers.


15 killed on Aug. 1, 1966: Charles Whitman shoots from the top of the tower on the University of Texas campus before being brought down by law enforcement. Before the shooting, Whitman had killed his wife and mother.


14 killed on Aug. 20, 1986: Patrick Henry Sherrill shoots co-workers at an Edmond Oklahoma post office and then kills himself.


13 killed on April 20, 1999: Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold begin shooting at Columbine High School in Colorado. Of the victims, 12 were students and one was a teacher. Both gunmen killed themselves.

Then there is the Virginia shooting. They happen far to regularly.

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Originally Posted by Kieeran

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It was on the news he was "jilted" and his girlfriend left him for another guy. Apparently they 2 were the first people he killed before continuing his massacre.

cheers for the info dave and the columbia one was the ne i saw a program about, sick buggers

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Originally Posted by Davetaylor

wasnt there a previous incident like this

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About a million, yeah. We've got some shooting problems over here.

Its not the University's fault. You can blame the police, but the University isnt a safety institution. They should have been told what to do by police, and they werent. If they were, the police certainly gave them bad commands.

What kills me is the 2 hour gap between the shootings. What the hell happened there? You know what you do when there's a shooting? Look for the shooter! 2 hours?! I have no idea what they were thinking there. They might have been as incompitent as the Columbine incident's police force.

The guy was a 23 year old South Korean who wrote a note:

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A note believed to have been written by Cho was found in his dorm room that railed against "rich kids," "debauchery" and "deceitful charlatans" on campus.

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I would like to squeeze this guy and yell "grow up" as loud as I can into his ear.

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Originally Posted by Davetaylor

cheers for the info dave and the columbia one was the ne i saw a program about, sick buggers

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*Columbine

hehe sorry xD

it really is disgraceful how someone can do these things. & they always kill themselves, so they're never brung to justice. ):

Lol people watch the news xD but basicly wot happened was:
Some chinese asian guy they say had some trouble with love life or w/e and he was actually a student there and in the morning he woke up and with a handgun he purchased a week ago he went and shot someone.. i think it was someone he hated or sumin but a teacher came so he shot the teacher aswell and he they died.. that was the 2ppl who died at the beginning. Then the police decided the situation was under control and there was no need for an evacuation and let lessons continue.. but 2hours later he went back and just went on a killing spree... one story i heard on the news was:
He went in and show the majourity of the students in the class, he then went and some of the students slammed the door shut, but then he came back and shot EVERYONE then he went but one girl managed to wedge herself so he couldn't come back in but he still tried, even shooting at the door.
also a film was taken with a phone and all you can hear is gun shots... and imagine each one was someone getting shot.. Bah! must be horibbly scary... especially the story i said.. how sick.. and what a wimp to kill himself.

I didnt hear anything about a girlfriend, because they're having a lot of trouble finding information about the guy. He was a loner. I dont think he had a girlfriend.

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Originally Posted by RedStratocas

I didnt hear anything about a girlfriend, because they're having a lot of trouble finding information about the guy. He was a loner. I dont think he had a girlfriend.

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Well they originally thought it was something to do with his love life as they said when he was in one of the dorms he kept asking for a certain girl..

Yeah, he was jealous because his girlfriend had left him. He shot his girlfriend then the black teacher walked in on it & he shot him because he saw it. The two shootings were atlwast 500metres away from each other, different sides of the campus. How could you not find him? They said the campus was massive though, so I don't know.

They cancel classes here if theres an inch of snow.
Theres a shooting with 2people dead but dont worry no need to cancel school.

what the ****?

And yes i live in the states

Was the campus really big ?

I'd be crapping myself I heard people jumped from 3rd and 4th floors and broke their legs and arms

I hope they dont have a proper funeral for a spoilt **** like that.

Poor people :(

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Was the campus really big ?

I'd be crapping myself I heard people jumped from 3rd and 4th floors and broke their legs and arms

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Campus was huge, it was a proper university.

3/4 people who were in Norris Hall survived because they played dead, head down face first. The people who were shot but survived, every single one of them had atleast 3+ bullets in them.

This is scary, the police broke into the chained up door from the inside (which the gunman did) and as they were running up the stairs to the second floor (jumping over bodes from the dead in the stairwell) they could still here gunshots, just as they got to the top it stopped, that's when he shot himself. They were literally 15 seconds away from him.

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Originally Posted by Aight.

Campus was huge, it was a proper university.

3/4 people who were in Norris Hall survived because they played dead, head down face first. The people who were shot but survived, every single one of them had atleast 3+ bullets in them.

This is scary, the police broke into the chained up door from the inside (which the gunman did) and as they were running up the stairs to the second floor (jumping over bodes from the dead in the stairwell) they could still here gunshots, just as they got to the top it stopped, that's when he shot himself. They were literally 15 seconds away from him.

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To be honest rather than killing himself I would have proffered he died in a sea of justice-bullets fired from dozens of police rifles/machine guns. It's the only punishment I would see fitting for such a terrible crime.

A few years back there was a presentation about the columbine shooting at my school by the father of one of the girls killed. It was interesting and most teachers left in tears.

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he was south Korean, obtained the weapons legally and people are still unsure about his motives. I think they are beginning to doubt it was revenge about an exam/love life as it was said by fellow students he never had a girlfriend and actually made a girlfriend up.

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Originally Posted by Ekalb

he was south Korean, obtained the weapons legally and people are still unsure about his motives. I think they are beginning to doubt it was revenge about an exam/love life as it was said by fellow students he never had a girlfriend and actually made a girlfriend up.

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He may have been schizophrenic. Early 20's is when that develops. There have been 2 campus shootings where that has been the case. They'll have to open his brain probably.

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Originally Posted by Aight.

Yeah, he was jealous because his girlfriend had left him. He shot his girlfriend then the black teacher walked in on it & he shot him because he saw it. The two shootings were atlwast 500metres away from each other, different sides of the campus. How could you not find him? They said the campus was massive though, so I don't know.

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What? The black kid shot was a student, and he didnt shoot his girlfriend? You must have been seeing speculation.

goshh, i kind of just noticed a majority of killers kill themselves aswell.
but i heard it was cos he had an infatuation with his ex-girlfriend, so the first he shot was his gf & her bf.

he then shot people out in the football grounds bit.
then inside again.

thats what i heard.
it's well sad that people lost their lives cos of him :@:@:@:@

is it bad that my first thought was "trust it to be an asian"!?

To Twinkle - I dont know if your being sectarian towards there race or what but it's been every single 'BIG' event that an asian or someone like that race was behind it , 9/11 etc.

The police officers were 15 seconds away, I'd rather see him being shot by police officers too because no matter if he was demented he shouldnt have did that and deserves it

If only we could turn back time ehy.


He is one sick motherf and demented.

What do you mean they'll have to open his brain

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Originally Posted by Pokemon

What do you mean they'll have to open his brain

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He may have had a tumor which messes up your thought. There was once a shooter who was sniping people from the top of a watch tower and killed 16 people, and after police shot him to death, they found a note he wrote that basically says "something is wrong with me". And oddly enough--he was right. He had a tumor.

It doesnt sound like he was brought up this way. His sister even graduated from Princeton. It's likely he was either schizophrenic or had a tumor or something like that. If he was schizophrenic, its definitely what caused him to do it, but it was still inexcusable. Tumors are a bit different though.

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is it bad that my first thought was "trust it to be an asian"!?

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We Americans can kill eachother just fine, thank you. We dont need to outsource another job of ours overseas.

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Originally Posted by exotic

goshh, i kind of just noticed a majority of killers kill themselves aswell.
but i heard it was cos he had an infatuation with his ex-girlfriend, so the first he shot was his gf & her bf.

he then shot people out in the football grounds bit.
then inside again.

thats what i heard.
it's well sad that people lost their lives cos of him :@:@:@:@

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I have no idea where everyone is getting the girlfriend thing from, every article I read says he was a loner.

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Originally Posted by RedStratocas

He may have been schizophrenic. Early 20's is when that develops. There have been 2 campus shootings where that has been the case. They'll have to open his brain probably.



What? The black kid shot was a student, and he didnt shoot his girlfriend? You must have been seeing speculation.

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I'm not sure at this point, I know that in the dorm a girl & a black person was shot in there. I've heard it was a teacher but it's unconfirmed.