Yay tony blair is no longer our priminster.
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Yay tony blair is no longer our priminster.
We've got another one on the way.
for once, i agree with tom. anyone who worked for tony is an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomlegend
Tony Blair has been the best priminister England has had.
*RMOVED*Quote:
Originally Posted by Putal
i dont think many people will agree with u on that one
Edited by Yoshimitsui (Forum Moderator): Please don't avoid the filter.
I don't expect everyone to, it' my own opinion :]Quote:
Originally Posted by Extor
@ you its Prime MinisterQuote:
Originally Posted by Warning
well i dunno about all time as im only 14 and dont study it lol but i have to admit he was good i dont know why people gave him alot of stickQuote:
Originally Posted by Putal
i doQuote:
Originally Posted by Extor
I think he has been one of the best. Whilst there have been bad moments like the Iraq War there have also been very good moments like education and Northern Ireland. Some of you may argue that NI has been worked on by PMs since Thatcher but it was Tony Blair who moved it along.
I do think that the relationship with America (being Bush's lap dog) is his main downfall as, if that wasn't the case, we may not have become involved in Iraq or Afghanistan.
He's been excellent. You can say all this stuff like "LOL HEZ STUPID N LIKES BUSH UP DA BUM LOLOL" but if you look at what he actually has done, he did a lot of good for the country. It's a shame that all his good things will be overshadowed by the disaster of Iraq.
I couldn't agree moreQuote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
I think he did alot for this country and even though not everything he did turned out the way he intended I think he did an excellent job.
i dont really do politics but he has made silly mistakes but so has everyone. he has done some good things though.
but i couldnt care less who is prime minister, aslong as that person is not like a total idiot or a member of the bnp loll
I think Blair was a great prime minister and all Brown is going to do is take more money away from the public.
I think the iraq war was a good move and Saddam was killed because of it, but i think we should pull out now, and let the fools shoot each other and not our people
Blair has been a brilliant prime minister, when you look at what he's done espicially compared to the Thatcher/Major years.
It's just a shame that the Iraq war, and the peers scandal/donations scandal will probably overshadow what was a great leadership, and it's not like he was even the first PM to it dates back to Lloyd George. You just need to look at the fact that he got a standing ovations from the whole house, not just the Labour party. It's just a shame, that he made himself a lame duck in his 3rd term, by admitting that he wasn't going to serve the full term. Looking forward to seeing the changes that will happen with Brown coming in, personally I'm a big fan of Brown so it will be interesting to see what he is like as a PM.
I don't really see what's wrong with Blair apart from the Iraq War and his problem with sweat control.
Don't know about that, I know Brown isn't nearly as popular as Blair was when he got into power but I still think he'll do fairly well. The only problem is that he's not as charismatic as Blair, but I don't think many people are to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bash41
I certainly hope Brown doesn't muck up anyway :P
He had his ups and downs, but he did great things for this country.
I'm glad he's becoming a middle east envoy. Anyone who saw Prime Minister's Questions today could see that he has a lot left in him, he gave a brilliant performance.
Granted, maybe some of the things we did in Iraq were wrong, but as I said, he's done great things.
We'll miss him.
Oh yes, 10 years of death, tax and lies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Putal
The reason why he is given stick is because of and Illegal War which has killed many people and also his lies and taxation.Quote:
Originally Posted by shokz
I disagree Tom babes, Only good thing he did was support Trident and bringing up Nuclear Power issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
Could someone explain to me how you can have Tony Blair, the second most hated man in Asia as Middle East envoy?, How does that work?Quote:
He had his ups and downs, but he did great things for this country.
I'm glad he's becoming a middle east envoy. Anyone who saw Prime Minister's Questions today could see that he has a lot left in him, he gave a brilliant performance.
Granted, maybe some of the things we did in Iraq were wrong, but as I said, he's done great things.
We'll miss him.
Most of the country won't miss him, I CERTAINLY won't miss him.
I believe Thacther was the best Prime Ministers we ever had, her standing up to bullies and her defeat of the unions that were crippling this country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maximo
I watched a Program on Brown and it showed how many times he had lied over the Budgets, it was a lot.
I also think Brown is a Taxing lier who is just going to be absolutley pathetic just like Blair.
Then Cameron will come along and he'll be the same as Blair.
Gordon talks of 'Change' - But he still has most of the Blair Cabinet in his cabinet - Whatever Gord.
Undertaker, you should really start complaining about tax when/if Conservitives come into power..
Blair was a good Prime Minister, shame about Iraq, but you have to remeber the Good Friday Agreement and what he has done for education. If it was down to Conservitives, middle class people would not be in universities, fox-hunting probably wouldn't be banned and on the whole, Conservitives would be bad for the country on a whole.
Well there was Ireland. But that I suppose had been worked on before he came into power but he did finalise it.Quote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
I don't support David Cameron at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo13.
Also just stop with the trash about Middle Class people being treated badly under the Torys - It's just no true at all.
Labour has seen our country have overflowing prisons, worsening education, worsening NHS and basically everything has gone to the dogs.
Also I couldn't give one about the foxes, what is worse really?
Illegal War - Many Dead
Fox Hunting being legal
Which is worse?
Tbh blaire is like one of the things that made britain britain , all tourists from other countries new about him etc , He may have made a few bad dessions like agreeing with everything bush did but he still did a decent job and without him britain wouldn't be how it is now.
Yeah, and one thing out lots of bad things including death isn't a reason to say he's good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cola
Britain?Quote:
Originally Posted by --ss--2
Tourists have always been coming, Blair didn't make them come at all.
Does Britain still exist when illegal immagrants are being allowed in and being treated better than pensioners?
Britain is worse off due to 10 years of lies, death and tax.
I didn't say that to say he was good, I said it to show there was some small ups but some big downs.Quote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
I know :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cola
I was using it to all the Blair supporters.
The Queen makes Britain Britain. London accents make Britain Britain. Tea makes Britain Britain. The Prime Minister is a mere thing.
Oh ok. Sorry about that. :eusa_whisQuote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
Unfortunately bad things stand out in peoples memories and it's a shame that 10 years of Blair will be shadowed by one stupid decision.
Taxes happen regardless of who's in power. Especially with world politics going as they have done, tax has been and always will be necessary for a government to form.
NHS has definitely gone downhill, but I think this was a natural and unstoppable thing. Blair created thousands of NHS jobs near the start of his career as PM, and although it's in a mess right now, it's actually still far better off than it was when Thatcher and Major were in power.
The Iraq war may well have been a mistake, and yes it's tragic that death has come of it, but if I'm honest I'd prefer to have lost a few men to make sure that we're safe from possible attacks from there than let things run on and have the people live in fear of what might occur.
Meh, Blair stank as PM. Lies, deceipt and in a way, he was a coward. Seeking advice and help from the French President and the US President.
NHS is worse now. It has poor funding, regardless of how many jobs opened. That may of been the problem. Poor funding has led to MRSA and the other many super bugs that cause major problems to patients, namely blindness and to some, death. It an unorganised chaos. It was good for the first couple of years, then the rest just went terribly down hill "/
Taxes obviously are around no matter what PM or party, but they've gotten really bad. Britain has died.
Tom, we know that Iraq posed no threat and we knew before we even went in.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
Saddam harboured no terrorists or WMD, infact he killed them as they were dangerous to his country creating unstability.
The fear was created by both the Republicans and Labour Partys, the whole Afganhistan invasion was just a cover up for what their real plan was, the fear and invasion of Afganhistan were just to get people behind the invasion of Iraq.
Also Tax has just gotten stupid under Gordan and Tony, stealth and cover ups, like in the last budget one tax was 'cut', while others had risen but Brown didn't mention that.
Yet again, you talk 100% sense :)Quote:
Originally Posted by GommeInc
I agreed with it all the way up to the last line. Britain hasn't died. I think that's just a tad melodramatic. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by GommeInc
Britains old ways probably have died.
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Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
Well obvs Iraq was wrong, yes, that was Tony Blairs weakest point. And I never said you supported David Cammeron, I just said that if he came into power, then you really would be moaning about taxes, as there tax rates are apaulingly high.
Middle Class people are being treated unfairly by the Conservitves, just look at their tuition fees, as I have already said.
Who's fault is it we have overflowing prisons? The criminals who commit the crimes. Almost every country in the world has this problem.
As for education...what the hell are you taking about!! Improved education is one of Blairs finest moments. Schools are getting advanced technology, more teachers and healthy eating options, mainly down to the Labour party :)
NHS, yes, there is problems there, but there has been from the 1950's, so its going to take a big job to get it right, no matter WHO is in charge.
What does the queen do?
Lol and heres another idiot on the way
fgs
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this country is going down hill bad
The queen does nothing, she stays out of everything because she doenst like to get involved. its stupid, i think she should get involved in peace talks but she doesnt.
its all up to Gorden, which i spec he will be as bad as tony
She's the head of state.Quote:
Originally Posted by doctorblind.
The Queen is pretty useless. Infact, the whole royal family is now. Prince Harry should of gone to Iraq, I don't see why not? Louds of past royals have "/ Prince Charles wanders around alot, maybe when he is King he would get involved alot?
Britain has died. All this political correctness rubbish has destroyed alot of traditions and on the same line as traditions, the government is of the opinion Christian symbols are offensive to other religions. Loads of Muslims really don't give a crap and at Christmas loads agreed that Christian/Christmas traditions gave out good messages, which their religion doesn't really do. Old Britain has died, new Britain is a sniveling coward sitting in the corner not solving anything and being laughed at.
Better than a presidential state. Like if Tony Blair was president.
Harry couldn't go to Iraq (despite actually wanting to) because it would have been a huge risk to the people around him, and also because like it or not, the death of a royal family member means more to the country as a whole than the death of a normal soldier.Quote:
Originally Posted by GommeInc
Also you can't say the royal family is useless and then say complain that Britain's died. If you want "old Britain" as you put it, you should be in support of the royal family, as they are one of the last iconic British things left to celebrate. I for one regard the royal family, and the monarch in particular, highly - because I like a good bit of heritage and tradition. Also, despite how she appears to do nothing, the technical powers of a monarch are pretty immense should they choose to use them.
Declaring war and making peace is done by the government on behalf of the Queen. She owns the military forces.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightrose
Actually I don't believe David Cameron has actually set out what his taxes would be, so that statement has no subtance that you just made.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodo13.
Also people are worse off under this Labour Government, so this whole 'Conservatives are evilz' arguement is complete nonsence.
Tony Blair was told in 1997 that Prisons were going to overflow, what did he do? - Nothing!
People with brains would build more prisons, but the Labour Party just sat by and let it overflow so now we have people being released early which is just great.
Education, Tests have got considerably easier over the Labour Years, this is due to them being made easier.
So Blair can boast that it's got better but it hasn't, it's also got easier for people who aren't clever to get very good grades, that means the people who are really clever can't get jobs because they have the same qualications as the people who aren't as clever as them, is that fair?, so much for EDUCATION, EDUCATION, EDUCATION..
The NHS is a big problem, but it seems to have gotten worse under Blair and Brown, they think the way to solve it is throwing money at the NHS and closing down certain Hospitals, if you watched that NHS program on BBC a few months ago then you would see NHS Management needs to be sorted out.
Yet again, your 100% right :)Quote:
Originally Posted by GommeInc
She doesn't really 'own' them, she can't command them to go to war, that's up to the PM and his Party and the House Of Commons/Lords.Quote:
Originally Posted by Virgin Mary