Vegans [sp?] - LOL

Anyways, today I'm watching 'Bringing Home Baby' && this couple are vegan && so, they decided their going to raise their son vegan so their mother was like, I don't want that. But, what happens when they want to go to a birthday party && stuff, what will they eat? When they go to a barbeque? Their missing out on a part of life. Now I understand killing animals is wrong but they won't even eat dairy products. This involves no killing of an animal. It's just taking milk from an animal. Makes no sense.

What do you think?

(Expects another massive thread on being Vegan/Vegetarian)

I think the nutrition from meat and dairy is needed.

Vegans are odd people. I wouldn't know where to start when they're involved. People can have what they want to eat, but if they have this strange belief that it is cruel or will hamr their health, they need to be shot.

1. Animals feel pain differently. We have evolved in a way which makes us more aware. An animal would barely know what's happening.
2. Animals are killed instantly. There is no pain.
3. Meat isn't fatty unless you cook it in large amounts of fat. The only part on the meat which is fatty is the white bits, the fat, the actual meat has little fat.
4, Meats have large amounts of nutrients, which is natural as opposed to unnatural vegetables which are produced genetically different.
5. Not having the produce from an animal is weird and bizarre, I no not a reason why they don't eat/drink it.

http://www.mercyforanimals.org/dairy_and_veal.asp
Might be why. I just drink goat's milk, it tastes nicer.

Vegans are losers.

Killing animals is not wrong at all. Our generations were born to eat me, we evolved this way and should keep it going - meat is good. Hell, animals wouldn't be alive because they are bred to be killed so if we didn't eat them they wouldn't be bred and therefore wouldn't been alive in the first place.

What about cannibalism?

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Originally Posted by Virgin Mary

What about cannibalism?

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We have animals so there is no need to turn to humans.

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Originally Posted by indie

We have animals so there is no need to turn to humans.

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There's this food called hofu and I tried it and it was awful. It's meant to taste like humans. Maybe they got the flavour from some nasty tasting humans though. It's all so contradictory.

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Originally Posted by Virgin Mary

There's this food called hofu and I tried it and it was awful. It's meant to taste like humans. Maybe they got the flavour from some nasty tasting humans though. It's all so contradictory.

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Tofu*
and it isnt ment to taste like humans:s

Vegans belive against animal cruelty NOT killing animals!
I used to be a vegan, and i ate eggs aslong as they were from my cousins where he didnt have a cockerial so it never had chance to be a chicken.

Also on the milk thing, if you think that a cow only makes milk when a cow is born, as soon as that happens the calf is pulled away and the mother is then making milk for the rest of her life. Some times there are cuts on the udder and blood often goes into the milk from being milked so much.
Why cause all that when we can get just the same from soya milk?
I think that if you had that when you are a kid then you would prefer that over milk.

Btw you do know that eating a chickens egg is like eating ur mams or sisters tampons? used ones btw

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Originally Posted by LeftForDead

Tofu*
and it isnt ment to taste like humans:s

Vegans belive against animal cruelty NOT killing animals!
I used to be a vegan, and i ate eggs aslong as they were from my cousins where he didnt have a cockerial so it never had chance to be a chicken.

Also on the milk thing, if you think that a cow only makes milk when a cow is born, as soon as that happens the calf is pulled away and the mother is then making milk for the rest of her life. Some times there are cuts on the udder and blood often goes into the milk from being milked so much.
Why cause all that when we can get just the same from soya milk?
I think that if you had that when you are a kid then you would prefer that over milk.

Btw you do know that eating a chickens egg is like eating ur mams or sisters tampons? used ones btw

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Sorry, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hufu I meant hufu lol. I'm a vegetarian for moral reasons.

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Originally Posted by LeftForDead

Why cause all that when we can get just the same from soya milk

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Soya is rank soz. I'll stick to the cows. :D xo

I can understand vegetarians, but vegans are a bit extreme.

I can't live without meat lol. Its a good source of important things our body needs anyway.

Yea.......... Its needed foo!

Tofu isnt good enough tbh.. Ever seen a vegitarian all bulky and stuff??

ehhh NO!
so yea vergons dont get all bulky :S

I agree with a lot of you but like people get certain nutrients && different things from animals but if you don't eat animals, where are you getting these nutrients? Also, you're missing out on a part of life. I understand vegetarians to some extent but still, not eating animals? I can't see it. Maybe it's because I've ate animals all my life, or maybe it's just, it's awkward. Not sure. But, I find it very weird not eating animals.

Maybe you should try a difference approach other than "NUTRIENTS!!!!!!!!". The only "nutrient" meat really contains is protein, and it's not even the most abundant source of that...

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Originally Posted by -=5cott=-

Yea.......... Its needed foo!

Tofu isnt good enough tbh.. Ever seen a vegitarian all bulky and stuff??

ehhh NO!
so yea vergons dont get all bulky :S

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I don't want to be fat.

everyone in my school is becoming vegetarian after being shown this stupid peta propaganda video. they now all believe it's 'wrong to kill animals' and the thought of eating one makes them 'feel like puking'.

-shrug-

im vegetarian buts imo vegan is going to fair and is unhealthy :(



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2. Animals are killed instantly. There is no pain.
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They may not be in any pain when being killed, but during their time alive they are put through pain, kept in crampt places and kicked...

Although i agree with what you saying vegan is aload of nonsence, i mean why not eat something that comes naturally?

I can understand vegetarianism but vegan is to far.

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Originally Posted by vicious

im vegetarian buts imo vegan is going to fair and is unhealthy :(



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How is being a vegan unhealthy but not vegitarian?:s
Being vegan is the same you just dont eat things that werent from our species, Like a human isnt ment to drink cows milk, were ment to drink our mothers and thats it. There is more evidence that suggests that vegan is better for us then not.

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Originally Posted by vicious

im vegetarian buts imo vegan is going to fair and is unhealthy :(



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s'not me

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i didn't copy you :S i've had it for ages

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Originally Posted by LeftForDead

How is being a vegan unhealthy but not vegitarian?:s
Being vegan is the same you just dont eat things that werent from our species, Like a human isnt ment to drink cows milk, were ment to drink our mothers and thats it. There is more evidence that suggests that vegan is better for us then not.

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just because 'we are meant to drink out mothers milk' doesn't mean being a vegan is better for you. cows milk is still good for you (calcium etc)

Being a vegan isn't unhealthy, just like being vegetarian isn't unhealthy, read a long paged website giving evidence that our bodies are designed more for a vegetarian diet, heck 45% of india is vegetarian.

I wish people would stop believeing everything people say.. "meat gives tons of protein" for one, yes it gives a fair bit of protein (not much more than vegetables but still..) but you also have saturated fats, increased cholesterol yada yada..

Eat meat if you want too, you can live a healthy life if you eat a BALANCED diet, but don't dismiss the idea of vegetarianism/veganism as soon as you see the name :)

i'm vegan, but because i don't like meat or eggs & stuff. not because all of this animal cruelty rubbish.
& peta is a load of crap, they kill over 90% of the animals they take in most months, their videos are staged and their workers corrupt.

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Originally Posted by Ezzie.

Being a vegan isn't unhealthy, just like being vegetarian isn't unhealthy, read a long paged website giving evidence that our bodies are designed more for a vegetarian diet, heck 45% of india is vegetarian.

I wish people would stop believeing everything people say.. "meat gives tons of protein" for one, yes it gives a fair bit of protein (not much more than vegetables but still..) but you also have saturated fats, increased cholesterol yada yada..

Eat meat if you want too, you can live a healthy life if you eat a BALANCED diet, but don't dismiss the idea of vegetarianism/veganism as soon as you see the name :)

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We've had this discussion and I proved to you that meat, the fattiest being beef, isn't actually fatty or high in saturated fats "/ It's something like 14% of your daily intake, which is a 3oz piece of steak which is alot, but little fat.

I don't think it's unhealthy but I think there's some things you need from animals & from dairy products. Like really.

I think being vegan is just being picky really. Just eat what is infront of you, and stop asking what is in it, unless you dislike it (tastes yucky in your opinion) or you are allergic are the exceptions, but doing it for the sake of being annoying is, well, annoying "/ Having butter, milk, eggs is not going to kill you unless you , yourself, intentionally kill yourself with it, or do harm with yourself. Although drowning yourself in milk and egg would be considered a mental problem.

Just randomly, I find it funny when people at McDonalds order a `hamburger without the ham`.. Kynda defies the purpose imo.

gypsyssss

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Originally Posted by Psychonaut

Just randomly, I find it funny when people at McDonalds order a `hamburger without the ham`.. Kynda defies the purpose imo.

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It's like ordering a vegie burger with bacon..

You can order hamburgers without ham?! Can't they just say veggie burgers? I quite like spicy bean burgers. One purposely vegetarian food I actually like. Quorn gives me stomach problems.

Animals eat other animals.. It's the way life is, it's like teaching a lion to eat carrots.. ridiculous. No offence :)

We are naturally born to kill eachother but it doesnt mean that we should. As for being killed instantly they arent, well most are but not all. Upon entering a slaughterhouse cows, pigs etc are alive they are then jabbed with this electric thing which knocks them out/stuns them but sometimes [infrequently] they 'wake up' when they are being bled to death. I am vegetarian for moral reasons and I always will be, I see why people are vegans because of the harsh treatment of animals. For example for cows to produce milk they have to constantly have calves, these calves are taken away from them when they are born and most of the time slaughtered. Also most cows spend their lives inside and they develop sores on there body because of the hard concrete, I choose to eat free range animal products instead.

im going vegetarian in september (first i have to go on a family holiday and live off bbq for a week ¬_¬), depending on how that goes in the future when i move out i may go vegan. but **** animal rights, its for health reasons that im interested in it. i want to stay skinny forever and never go fat :(

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Originally Posted by YoManGo!

im going vegetarian in september (first i have to go on a family holiday and live off bbq for a week ¬_¬), depending on how that goes in the future when i move out i may go vegan. but **** animal rights, its for health reasons that im interested in it. i want to stay skinny forever and never go fat :(

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Meat isn't fattening, fat is fattening :rolleyes:

Also, you don't eat animals because it is immoral? We're not the same species as the hundreds/thousands/millions of edible animals... THerefore it isn't immoral.

im not vegan but i am vegie as i have been bought up and am used to it.

well, i know a vegan and have done since year 2 and she HATES it. her mother raised her vegan but she hates it. easter she had like half of my easter egg and now and then in the canteen i see her with meet. she doesnt do it often but i would HATE to be a vegan. all she really gets to eat is pasta and vegetables.

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Originally Posted by Sway

well, i know a vegan and have done since year 2 and she HATES it. her mother raised her vegan but she hates it. easter she had like half of my easter egg and now and then in the canteen i see her with meet. she doesnt do it often but i would HATE to be a vegan. all she really gets to eat is pasta and vegetables.

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And it has to be pasta which isn't made using egg. Vegan is just being picky, vegetarian is acceptable in my books, unless you start reading the labels of things checking to see if any animal traces are in it. Just eat it, it won't kill you "/

It kills the animal...

So? It's means the animal didn't go to waste. Meat goes to cooking etc, while the gelatin goes to sweets etc and it all tastes good to some people.