9/11

I am getting tired of hearing all of these stupid rumours about 9/11 like it was planned by bush and all of that crap. Its all fake and it hurts the people that lost somebody in the terrorist attack. If you believe it was bush and all of that stuff thats fine but please dont go around telling everybody abound it.

I had family that live in nyc and they almost died aswell with various other people on arounnd my neighbrohood. I know people who died in it and it makes me mad that people say all these false things

People that live in nj or ny and around there will understand what im saying.

I know, but how do you know this?
Why did the Twin towers go down so easily?

he obviously didnt do it, all the crap they say can be proved wrong.

but seriously, saying it isnt gonna help.

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Originally Posted by PaulMacC

I know, but how do you know this?
Why did the Twin towers go down so easily?

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its designed to.


Edited by mat64 (Forum Moderator): Please do not double post, Simply edit your previous post :).

People have different opinions, Rip to all who died<3

im sick and tired of always being sick and tired.

you cant have an opinion on why they fell so easily, because its fact.

The steel structures could not have been melted by jet fuel, it's scientifically impossible.

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Originally Posted by PaulMacC

The steel structures could not have been melted by jet fuel, it's scientifically impossible.

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they could have been weakened though ;)

Your saying that all 4 steel structures were weak enough to fall, how did both fall, coninsidence? no.

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Originally Posted by PaulMacC

Your saying that all 4 steel structures were weak enough to fall, how did both fall, coninsidence? no.

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hmmm.. there was an extreamly hot fire in the building causing the steel structure to soften (not melt entirly) and collapse

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Originally Posted by PaulMacC

Your saying that all 4 steel structures were weak enough to fall, how did both fall, coninsidence? no.

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yeah, considering the explosions were thousands of degrees it dosent surprise me. as the floors fall, they fell in on one another, so the tower didnt fall sideways thus killing more; it fell directly down. anything else?

Let's bring the pentagon into this aswell, explain that no debree was seen or the plane's body was never found, Those titanium steel structures melt at 4'500 degree's celcius

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Originally Posted by PaulMacC

Let's bring the pentagon into this aswell, explain that no debree was seen or the plane's body was never found.

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There was alot of debree found :rolleyes:

http://www.loosechangeguide.com/images/image062.jpg

The engine used in flight 757 was over x3 the size of the engine found.

When the Pentagon was marked with the blast people could smell a bomb (denotive or something)
It also have off a White flash when it crashed (if it did crash) and the planes in the twin towers had a orange flash

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Originally Posted by CustomHabbo

I am getting tired of hearing all of these stupid rumours about 9/11 like it was planned by bush and all of that crap. Its all fake and it hurts the people that lost somebody in the terrorist attack. If you believe it was bush and all of that stuff thats fine but please dont go around telling everybody abound it.

I had family that live in nyc and they almost died aswell with various other people on arounnd my neighbrohood. I know people who died in it and it makes me mad that people say all these false things

People that live in nj or ny and around there will understand what im saying.

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They tell their opinion like you tell yours.

Yo' ell what do you think?

i sorta believe the consipacys, but it doesn't mean that i don't feel for the people who lost their lives / their familys.

I was 7 when it happened :( I walked in from school and it was on the news, so I think nothing, although I think it was planned.

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Originally Posted by PaulMacC

Let's bring the pentagon into this aswell, explain that no debree was seen or the plane's body was never found, Those titanium steel structures melt at 4'500 degree's celcius

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Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength — and that required exposure to much less heat.

also, 'no plane body was found?'
http://media.popularmechanics.com/im...t77-debris.jpg

@Velocity.

why wont the FBI released any tapes of the 757 hitting the Pentagon?
Instead they released 5 picture frames, none of them containing a 757
That could be off any plane, how do you not know that someone put it there?
Why was the CCTV tapes confiscated from all Fuel stations and other shops nearby?

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Originally Posted by PaulMacC

The engine used in flight 757 was over x3 the size of the engine found.

When the Pentagon was marked with the blast people could smell a bomb (denotive or something)
It also have off a White flash when it crashed (if it did crash) and the planes in the twin towers had a orange flash

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I've done my research on this

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Originally Posted by http://www.loosechangeguide.com/lcg2.html#Aircraft%20debris%20photos

See, I told you it matters. You're showing a part from the wrong engine.The case on the left is from the Rolls-Royce 535 engine, the type used by flight 77. The one on the right is the case for the engine that you and Schwarz believe was at the Pentagon. Again, this information took just minutes to locate

http://www.loosechangeguide.com/images/image059.jpghttp://www.loosechangeguide.com/images/image061.jpg

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this guy is talking about things mentioned in loose change by the way

That still doesnt convince me, Im backing up things I've heard on Loose change and other documentarys which I believe in

You were 8 paul? Do you just go from video's and that? :P

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Originally Posted by PaulMacC

That still doesnt convince me, Im backing up things I've heard on Loose change and other documentarys which I believe in

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Lol I'm also backed up by things I've researched and took me seconds to find on the internet which totally debunk everything loose change says

Nope, I remember coming home for lunch from primary school and watching the news with it, I went around to the community centre and everyone was gathered in the main hall watching.

I still think it was just an excuse for America to go to Iraq to get oil = $_$

Answer this

why wont the FBI released any tapes of the 757 hitting the Pentagon?
Instead they released 5 picture frames, none of them containing a 757
Why was the CCTV tapes confiscated from all Fuel stations and other shops nearby?

There are so many different stories, it's getting out of hand.

There's only two sides, those who believe Bush did it and those who believe Terrorists did it.

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Originally Posted by PaulMacC

@Velocity.

why wont the FBI released any tapes of the 757 hitting the Pentagon?
Instead they released 5 picture frames, none of them containing a 757
That could be off any plane, how do you not know that someone put it there?
Why was the CCTV tapes confiscated from all Fuel stations and other shops nearby?

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explosions dont HAVE to be orange, it depends on the chemicals, materials ans substances.

"how do you not know that someone put it there?"
- honestly, they wouldnt go through the trouble of making two huge holes, then placing fake debris about? ;s

CCTV should be confiscated anyway, if that kind of info got into the media it could have sparked worldwide panic, or released vital information that others may have used on future attacks towards america.

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Originally Posted by PaulMacC

There's only two sides, those who believe Bush did it and those who believe Terrorists did it.

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no, theres one side for people that are able to think logically, and the other side for others that are afraid to face the truth so have to pair with a story that can provide them with some information, real or not.

"none of them containing a 757"

yeah, forgetting the fact its just flown into a wall? because your gonna see a 757 just standing half in a wall, this isnt cartoons mate ;s

Then, why was there a bump in the ground and the FBI said that it bumped off the ground and hit the Pentagon when there was only one small dent which could not have possibly been created by the plane?

explain to me, why couldnt the plane make more then one hole? if you have an explosion, debris is going to fly all over the place, thus creating more damage.

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Originally Posted by Dan2nd

they could have been weakened though ;)

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could of been the aircraft that took out several important supports. and the domino effect as one floor collapsed took down the next increasing the pressure and force enough to buckle the supports

Isaac Newton's Law of Gravity proves that it is wrong.
The time it took when the north tower collapsed was 10.23 seconds, Isaac Newton's law states it should have been 9.2

Im shutting up now because I cba and Im watching this http://www.southparkzone.com/episode-vid-1009.htm

each impact on another floor is going to slow down its pull towards earth, its going to obsorb its shock.

those videos make me laugh, they talk more crap then you do.

I'm sure it would b around 9.2 which 10.23 is as it would beimpossible to know if an area held out more or if the collapse started when it was meant to of.

thanks matey

god. :( I'd say terrorists but I don't know exactly lol

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Originally Posted by PaulMacC

Then, why was there a bump in the ground and the FBI said that it bumped off the ground and hit the Pentagon when there was only one small dent which could not have possibly been created by the plane?

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Blue = Loose change

Green = http://www.loosechangeguide.com/lcg2...ebris%20photos

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Third. You only have to look at the photos from that day to realize that whatever hit the Pentagon did not bounce off the lawn.

Who said anything "bounced off" the lawn?

If Flight 77 had crash landed and skidded into the Pentagon, it would have looked like this.


"Crash landed and skidded?" What in the world are you talking about?


Instead, it looked like this, without a single scratch on the lawn.

http://www.loosechangeguide.com/images/image039.jpg


This stuff would be hilarious if the subject wasn't so serious.

If flight 77 had crashed like this, it would have slid across several lanes of highway that was filled with bumper-to-bumper traffic.

Funny, none of the dozens of witnesses reported that happening.

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Originally Posted by PaulMacC

Your saying that all 4 steel structures were weak enough to fall, how did both fall, coninsidence? no.

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Yes.

When the planes crash into the steal it bends/snaps the steal.
Imagine all the weight then pileing down onto the broken steal structures..