Habbox staff tree

Whats the tree?

Is MAD at the highest rank or is Elka (forgot his name?)

Anybody care to reply with the tree of the HXF staff?

Thanks.

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I think thats how it would go.

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Originally Posted by Sammeth.

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I think thats how it would go.

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Where does the forum manager fit in?

Dept Manager.

Thank you.

Just got curious that's all. :)

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Originally Posted by Hollywood

Dept Manager.

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Yup, even though it's far too big to be a department. It really should be considered a seperate area of Habbox. I drew up a tree yesterday of the Habbox hierarchy, and it's awfully confusing when you take out the AGMs and considering them as managers (which really they are). Lots of squiggles.

I'm guessing Elkaa is around the same as the AGM's but a bit higher up as he has more physical power to do staff , The AGM's are the one's with lime green names ;).

It's be
Sierk
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Jin , jay and any other general admins
managers
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I may be incorrect as I ain't an admin.

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In terms of powers on the forum, obviously the forum manager is higher than other department managers. But thats so he can do his job! In terms of equality, all department managers are on parr with each other. Innit.

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Originally Posted by 088!

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I dont see VIP's higher then normal members.

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Originally Posted by Hollywood

I dont see VIP's higher then normal members.

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Was thinking the same thing.

There more higher than normal because they pay?

Kinda unfair but ah well.

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Originally Posted by Hollywood

I dont see VIP's higher then normal members.

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Why not? They have better features than members.

FM is the same level as Dept. Manager
AFM is the same level as Assist. Dept. Manager

They only appear to have more power due to them being Forum Administrators, and also with the forum being such a big department and housing some of the other departments and being the information point for all staff.

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Originally Posted by Sammeth.

Why not? They have better features than members.

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Guess so.

But still doesn't make them more important, but "higher ranked" as in usergroup wise.

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Originally Posted by Sarith

Guess so.

But still doesn't make them more important, but "higher ranked" as in usergroup wise.

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Pay more attention to the V and I part of VIP.

They're treated the same and have the same level of opinions really. The only unique thing they have a say in is how VIP is run.

The General Manager should have no part of this 'tree' which is basically for the forum. I think we're all forgetting, what was the General Managers job? To manage the site, not the forum. Nothing will be done though, it'll just be given a half-witted response.

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Originally Posted by Pyroka

The General Manager should have no part of this 'tree' which is basically for the forum. I think we're all forgetting, what was the General Managers job? To manage the site, not the forum. Nothing will be done though, it'll just be given a half-witted response.

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I always see the general manager as overlooking all departments as in general manager -> general department, no "certain" department..

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Originally Posted by Sarith

Guess so.

But still doesn't make them more important, but "higher ranked" as in usergroup wise.

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They are more important as without them the forum wouldn't be able to fund it's self fully.
They're hgiher ranked as they have features such as being able to see who gave them rep , closing their own threads, Chanign usertittle's etc.

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Originally Posted by Pyroka

The General Manager should have no part of this 'tree' which is basically for the forum. I think we're all forgetting, what was the General Managers job? To manage the site, not the forum. Nothing will be done though, it'll just be given a half-witted response.

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Mmmm, true. The General Manager and Management should be dealing with the site more than the forum, they did in the past even with 8Freak8. The forum was only looked over, not heavily looked at and changed, which is probably why the site has been a bit neglected. The amount of AGMs is a bit ridiculous too, they're just selected department managers that make up something that resembles a 'Board of Directors,' which is like a management council where they discuss issues... Not really assisting the GM, the GM would only need 1 or 2, not a collection.

It's a bit odd the Forum Manager isn't an AGM too.

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Originally Posted by --ss--

They are more important as without them the forum wouldn't be able to fund it's self fully.
They're hgiher ranked as they have features such as being able to see who gave them rep , closing their own threads, Chanign usertittle's etc.

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That's background stuff really, they have just as much as a say as everyone else and VIP is easily acccessible. If it was for a selected group, then they would have more of a say because it's then an exclusive group that you must be chosen to join.

Habbox is messed up when it comes to all this. I remember when the GM which was then Site Manager had more or less nothing to do with the forum, now he more or less has to accept everything that happens. The FM and AFM should be the ones who get to decide all this.

The staff structure needs to be sorted out.

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Originally Posted by Pat McGroin

Habbox is messed up when it comes to all this. I remember when the GM which was then Site Manager had more or less nothing to do with the forum, now he more or less has to accept everything that happens. The FM and AFM should be the ones who get to decide all this.

The staff structure needs to be sorted out.

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The GM is pretty much the co-owner now.

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Originally Posted by Hollywood

I always see the general manager as overlooking all departments as in general manager -> general department, no "certain" department..

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So you think a forum & a site are both departments?

Last time I recall, departments would be classed as Articles, News, Graphics & Radio? Which are basically the site staff? However forum is ran by Moderators, Super Moderators and an (Assistant) Forum Manager. If that is indeed the case on the whole understanding of Management, then Habbox has been screwed for a while.

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Originally Posted by GommeInc

Mmmm, true. The General Manager and Management should be dealing with the site more than the forum, they did in the past even with 8Freak8. The forum was only looked over, not heavily looked at and changed, which is probably why the site has been a bit neglected. The amount of AGMs is a bit ridiculous too, they're just selected department managers that make up something that resembles a 'Board of Directors,' which is like a management council where they discuss issues... Not really assisting the GM, the GM would only need 1 or 2, not a collection.

It's a bit odd the Forum Manager isn't an AGM too.

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Thing is, they don't because the forum is the biggest part of the 'Habbox empire'. They're better to just make the GM an acting FM, since that's what it is. The amount of AGMs, that isn't actually many. It's 4-5 in total, but this is the thing, they've been AGMs of the Forum. It is a board of directors, I agree with that. That isn't a bad thing of course, however their position of AGMs is definitely misintepreting their actual job.

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Originally Posted by Pyroka

So you think a forum & a site are both departments?

Last time I recall, departments would be classed as Articles, News, Graphics & Radio? Which are basically the site staff? However forum is ran by Moderators, Super Moderators and an (Assistant) Forum Manager. If that is indeed the case on the whole understanding of Management, then Habbox has been screwed for a while.



Thing is, they don't because the forum is the biggest part of the 'Habbox empire'. They're better to just make the GM an acting FM, since that's what it is. The amount of AGMs, that isn't actually many. It's 4-5 in total, but this is the thing, they've been AGMs of the Forum. It is a board of directors, I agree with that. That isn't a bad thing of course, however their position of AGMs is definitely misintepreting their actual job.

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Yes, i count the forum as a department, it has staff. So its a department. Articles ect are also departments, to me they are 'side departments' from the main department, the website. And graphics a side department from the forum/site/other departments.

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Originally Posted by Hollywood

Yes, i count the forum as a department, it has staff. So its a department. Articles ect are also departments, to me they are 'side departments' from the main department, the website. And graphics a side department from the forum/site/other departments.

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I don't mean to sound like I'm targeting you, however this could come across as such actions.

The forum is a base, a base of communications for all staff members to come together and operate effectively. The site is where all that operation and production comes into view into the public. They're two completely different things, and if you think this then most of the staff will too.

The graphics department, I accept do both sides of the 'empire' since it's just... the way things are. The General Management though, shouldnt be.

I'm surprised Forum Management & General Management don't come across as different things.

The general managment has a say in everything, the content manager to me should be site manager, and general manager as i said can say anything about any department as they are pretty much "owner" while Sierk is away.

Well I know that the General Manager sets targets for every single part of the departments, including the forum (even though it really isn't a department) because I seen 8Freak8 do it back in the day! Thing is though, it seems like the GM also helps fulfill those targets on the forum, which we're seeing quite alot.

The General Manager is owner whilst away, I agree with that. But since when is Sierk actively on HabboxForum? ... *tumbleweed* Content Manager is basically Site Manager, I agree with that. However the General Management really have got to get their act together, and let others play the scene. (so to speak)

The Forum Manager is a department just as the HabboxLive Manager and HabboxWorld Manager are department managers. All department managers are on the same level, though some have more influence obviously (Rare Values, Forum, etc)


Owner > General Manger > Assistant General Managers > Department Managers > Staff

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Somethings not coming across here.

Forum & Site.
VBulletin & Joomla.
Large & Little.

Anyone catching the drift yet? ;)

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Originally Posted by Pyroka

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Somethings not coming across here.

Forum & Site.
VBulletin & Joomla.
Large & Little.

Anyone catching the drift yet? ;)

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Fit & Ugly?

hahaha.

Pyroka & Hollywood?

You're getting the right idea. They're two completely different things.

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Originally Posted by Sammeth.

Pay more attention to the V and I part of VIP.

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I meant as in a general person speaking. Not because they pay a quid a month...

That comment would be screwed of yours if I didn't know what VIP defined. Thank fully with some general knowledge... I do. :)

But yes, this forum wouldn't really be here without it so I guess that brings them up the ladder.

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Originally Posted by Pyroka

Pyroka & Hollywood?

You're getting the right idea. They're two completely different things.

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What...

You mean.. You dont love me.. Harsh mate. :@

I do love you really. :P

I don't mean to be the demanding sort, but Elkaa, whats your say in all this? :)

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Edited by Agesilaus (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not make racist comments.

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Originally Posted by Sammeth.

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I think thats how it would go.

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Thats right yeah. Although VIPs and members tend to be on the same level ;).

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Originally Posted by --ss--

I'm guessing Elkaa is around the same as the AGM's but a bit higher up as he has more physical power to do staff , The AGM's are the one's with lime green names ;).

It's be
Sierk
---mad---
Elkaa
AGM's
Jin , jay and any other general admins
managers
and so on

I may be incorrect as I ain't an admin.

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Elkaa isn't that high up, he's on the dept manager level, however in terms of powers, he's just above Manager, but below the ranks above him (and he does rank general admins).

Sammeth gave the best hierarchy (missing Cautioned Members / Banned Members @ bottom).

In reality I would say that FM is a step above Manager but below the jobs that rank manager, and AFM is a step above Assistant Manager but below Manager.

All the "General Admins" would fit in as senior staff, though some have more important single roles that can't really be placed in any one spot (like Jin, who saves us whenever we break things or Adzeh pushes the wrong button.)

VIPS are more important than normal members because we have more powers, Bigger things in sig, view more forums etc.

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Originally Posted by Gert

VIPS are more important than normal members because we have more powers, Bigger things in sig, view more forums etc.

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I mean as a role.

Like example MAD's role is more important than X because mad controls x & x.

VIP and members basically do the same stuff, but with VIP it's more functions. As in, what they do wise if you get me?

I think you should differentiate between a Habbox staff tree and a Habbox forum tree. On the Habbox staff tree there is no place for vips or cautioned/banned members, just like there is no place for habbos banned from hxhd, or listeners banned from hxlive.
Since all departments are equal, the forum members are no different from the habbos using our rare values or the listeners to our radio.