What's the go with that? Seems like the council is going downhill quite fast.
Just wondering.. :s
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What's the go with that? Seems like the council is going downhill quite fast.
Just wondering.. :s
And J1MI too. May 2nd, a day to remember if the Council carries on. The next council team (if any) will be interesting. I think the council will be shortlived if Sierk & MAD are running it. Then again, there's always a possibility with them being so close to it now, developments might be made.
I doubt it.
i dont personally think it's right
how can the person be in charge be in charge of the group that comments on his decisions :rolleyes:
Well in a summary, it's not right.
It's a shame to see J1MI go though... LOL I remember he made a right mess-up of FM (in my opinion!) but I think in the Council he was getting bored? I guess sometimes you have an ideal position, and then if you just aim too far up then you get ahead of yourself and make it all tumble down. Shame that.
Nvrspk's still habbox staff, so not all is lost. :P
jrh2002 for council leader!
LOL I couldn't actually have put that better.
He was Council Co-Chair?!?!!? He was the chair person :S
He was Council Co-Chair as soon as J1MI came into the picture. or at least i think he was? Lemme check Council forum. Yeah, its out of date.
So who was Chair? nvrspk4 did all the things a chair person did. J1MI as far as the council sees him, did nothing :S
nvrspk was the chair at first, but then they were given the same authority as eachother, giving them co-chair status. Uhm... Well thats the title he was given. Whether he did anything in it is another issue.
You know I have a lot of time for J1MI - he has worked tirelessly and productively for Habbox for years - something must have frustrated him for a long time in the same way as Nvrpsk4 for him to resign.
Hmm, still a bit iffy. Why did they demote him when obviously he did more and has more power than J1MI who was just a Forum Administrator, compared to an AGM which is the third highest rank on Habbox?
I'm not sure what MAD and sierk plan to do with the council, they're the reason it failed in the first place, by controlling nvrspk4 and not talking to anyone...
Yeah, J1MI has been damn loyal, can't doubth im for that. I guess something was on his mind though, and the council just pushed him?
Yeah, well I dunno...
Maybe they'll be more open about the council if they were controlling one person, since they can't control anyone else now!
Did the council push him? As far as it looks, he was given the job but did nothing. Something must of happened before he was given the job. How can the council push someone who wasn't involved :P
It's just going to be the same as it was before nvrspk, except now we talk to the organ grinder and not the monkey :rolleyes: But the same effects will follow unless somehow the council is made simple with power.
I think the irritation from ---MAD--- and Sierk's dismissals of ideas pushed him off the edge to quit Habbox, yeah. Him and nvrspk must've at least spoken about it.
The organ grinder listens to his music, and his music only... The council is crying out for power if it really wants to make a good difference to Habbox.
You know the Council doesn't need power. Nobody minded that it didn't have any - what it needed was empowerment to discuss issues that Habbox members thought important enough to bring up. This goes back to the old adage of fear of delegation any purposeful decision making to the senior management staff. What the Council needed was to be listened to and I hate to say it treated with some respect for it's contributions and some decisions actually made. Nvr did his utmost to try to get it to work with seemingly little support except for some active Council members and if I had been J1MI going into the mess that it was due to the goal posts being changed and it becoming more complicated and beaurocratic all the time IMHO I would have run a mile too.
Honestly i think its better now Sierk is part why? As he does listen to people he always has, and he wants things changed.
Could be intresting..
If 1000s of members struggle to change anything how could a select bunch of council members? I expected the council to fail from the start and feel quite bad that it has due to the work nvr put in to it.
I thought the council was going to be run independently with nvr as the middle man? if the council will be run by staff then they might as well just remove it and carry on doing what they like.
Its a shame to see nvr go because he works very hard and considers the members in his decisions which is what is lacking in other areas of management in my opinion.
LOL @ REDNECK
If the council was run how it should be and not as a tool to silence a few people then there would still be some of the most influential HxF members on it. I was against the council and would only ever consider going on it if management listened. It turns out the council is just for new ideas? surely the feedback forum does all that.
He doesn't integrate with staff or members much, or doesn't appear to have any important administrative jobs aside from keeping the websites paid. He takes more of a supervisory role, which seems to work for him so I'm not knocking it. But now he has a title other than "owner" and will be getting involved with discussions and decision making, which sould be a plus for hx judging by his posts around the forum.
nvr deserves so much more than how the manages treat him here.
*Sigh* I'm going to sound really hypocritical here, but can you keep to the topic of nvrspk resigning? We can't make a thread for Sierk resigning, because there won't be a Habbox without him lol. Interesting thought that.