You are:
-helping people you don't know
-pretending to be good, but really not
-spending good money on people who will die anyways
-wasting your time
Your views on this?
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You are:
-helping people you don't know
-pretending to be good, but really not
-spending good money on people who will die anyways
-wasting your time
Your views on this?
You've put it perhaps a little bluntly, but in theory you are indeed correct. Also, it makes me sick that they ask/beg for money through adverts on TV - that is too far.
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Originally Posted by Sabbath
You are helping people who dont have things you do (take Britain for example, invaded so many countries, like India, who used to be the richest country in the world, and now they are poor cos of Britian ...).
And you are being good as you are helping people ...
Everyone will die, so why do you go shooping and buy food and clothes???
And you arent watsing your time as you are helping someone.
india is not all poor at all. it's got one of the fastest growing economies in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soil
not all charities are to save people - infact i'm more inclined to donate to a charity that helps in this country than anywhere else
Only charities I'd give to would be ones that get the homeless off the streets in Britain, because that's a cause that affects me and my country. Essentially people give to charity to makes themselves feel good, as though they're doing something wonderful so they can be at peace with themselves giving a couple of quid when they could realistically afford so much more. If people truly believed in equality and giving everyone the same chances they'd give up EVERYTHING that they didn't need for a cause.
"spending good money on people who will die anyway" is a bit harsh
in 100 years time everyone whos on this forum will be dead, so why do you spend money on yourself if you're going to die anyway?
bit harsh me thinks
Meh, i fail to see why you think they are 'stupid' from the above reasons, but the point of charity is to try and STOP them dying, but if they do die its just bad fortune. but atleast they TRIED to help.
I think you have put this abit to bluntly.
Thats a really selfish attitude, lol.
The whole point is to give to a charity because you care about other people obviously if you dont then, dont give?
They might not die actually, many have been saved or have lived longer because of peoples donations.
So your saying Mother Teresa or w/e and Princess Diana, was not just naturally good caring people that wanted to help? They actually are.
An plus its not always people your helping, sometimes your helping animals, helping countries and helping hospitals.
Its not fair to say that everyone that gives to charitys is just 'pretending'.
Its not a waste of time, giving £2 a month to Animal helping charitys etc which isn't alot is not wasting time its actually helping?
I respect people who give **** loads of moneys to charitys, if I ever got Cancer or I was a kid in africa, I would want people to help me.
Charitys help us, and make us feel good - because we did something for someone in the world we don't know.
Its also like saying, giving someone your organs that seriously need it that you don't know is silly, it aint its just helping, its people's selfish attitude why many people die nowdays and charitys people, help us do out bit for the world.
i only reckon you're saying that to cause an uproar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sabbath
it's clear everyone has the morality to know that giving and helping with charities is not wasting time - you just want to prove yourself as snobbish when really it just makes you look like a fool.
Emotional Blackmail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Misawa
It's REALLY bad.
NSPCC & The RSPCA Should be ashamed. Even cancer research does it!
You are:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sabbath
-Selfish
-Don't give a **** about your fellow man
-Need to wake up and realise that mankind can not evolve further unless we work together
-you're an idiot.
-plus though I don't want you to get cancer it'd be quite ironic if you had cancer, and the only reason you was saved was because somebody donated that precious money to a charity to find that "miracle cure"
Generally I only give money to charities where you can actually see the affects. Most major charities lose the money you donate on admin, shipping, adverts and all that and whatever's left goes on the afflicted and dieing.
They send us so mutch stuff through the door. So now if they go down our drive we just go out and go this is private property can you leave please or the police will be called. But i do give money to charitys i just dont want all the jink if i see a collection in the street i give money sometimes
only certain charities work, mostly ones for poverty. ones for diseases for the most part are lost causes.
Depends red strat, I really think charities for diseases are a big help.. eventually they will find cures for cancer, just depends when, and having an active charity studying it will make the process quicker.
Also thanks for the bad rep.. apparently i'm "scene" xD
The more cures you get, the stronger viruses will become.
Precisely, I will only ever give to charities that help queen and country, not other countries, they can get their help from their countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
It depends on what charities. The Suffolk Owl Sanctuary does alot of work and is quite a peaceful place to go to and Hedway which is a charity that deals with brain operations did an extremely good job with my dad's operation, and they work through hospitals provding such services. Although I do agree with you, charities for 3rd World Countries are a bit odd, surely they don't need millions of pounds to help africans? Teach them how to support themselves, it's a greater gift than having them dependant on us. But that does require some money too, but that's probably the neglectful rulers being, well, useless "/
Although it gives you a sense of gratification when you donate, it is all for a good cause (unless the charity uses the money for themselves, not the needy).
No offense, sometimes I find that because people don't study hard, etc., that's why they're poor now. Do we really want to help them? They had it coming. But I mainly support charities that deal with health, those that they could not expect.
I totally fail to see how charities can be classified as "stupid". Perhaps some charities don't budget their money so the majority amount of income is given to the poor/homeless/sick people, but there are many charities that are worth contributing to.
Firstly, I would like to say that with out people such as ourselves contributing, many more people would go hungry, catch disease and die, in certain third-world countries. You say that it's bad to help people you don't know? So if I see someone being kidnapped I don't report it to the authorities because the person being kidnapped is a stranger to me? I think not.
Who's pretending to be good? The people donating? A former Microsoft C.E.O donated millions to build educational facilities in third world countries. I somehow doubt he was "pretending" to be good. If you were referring to certain charities "pretending to be good" than just find a better charity to contribute to. I found when you said charities are bad because you're "spending good money on people who will die anyways" to be totally irrational. The people contributing to charities have good lives, with money to spare. Families in third world countries don't have the same educational and employment opportunities as us. So if I am able to pay $20 a month to give a family medical attention and shelter I wont hesitate to do it. I don't see how one can be wasting their time, if they're constructively helping someone else.
Hmm, good point. I guess when you have AIDs you'll die because the AIDs charity has no money to save your sinning *** lol!
Most of you are seeing charities as useless, I laugh if one day you will depend on one.
Sometimes its not because people dont "study" and bring it on themselves. People dont walk around asking to be beaten by there parents and to be starved to death because there country isn't the richest in the world and can't afford to give them a good education.
If your neighbour was beating there dog, you wouldn't report it? Save its life? Thats what charities do, RSPCA needs money to help these animals that suffer, we humans cause it so we should fix it. Be grateful RSPCA are there to help your ******* dog, cat etc please? RSPCA do so much for us that we bypass it, preventing cruelty to animals, rescuing animals from abuse, arranging loving new homes for them and prosecuting people who harm or neglect them.
NSPCC once again caused by us neglecting eachother, great.
In 2006/07 11,505 children called ChildLine to talk about sexual abuse. Things happen behind closed doors, I'd rather see them resolved then sit back and know things like that happen and I'd never turn around and say its pointless. If it wasn't for the support of NSPCC alot of children would be sitting in homes, getting abused knowing there is no help. An If I was being abused I would want help, not just for people to sit back and let this happen. Again something us as humans have caused so again we should donate to stop it.
Then you sit there and complain 'THEY SHOULD HAVE STUDIED!!!"
Hello, wake up.
10 million children die every year before their fifth birthday, with the very poorest and neglected children at greatest risk. Many of these children die from illnesses like pneumonia and diarrhoea - things we can easily prevent or treat. In the 21st century, that's just wrong. We know that it's simple to save lives. Vaccinations, mosquito nets and clean water are all simple things that can keep a child alive.
These should be available to all children, wherever they are born.
Thats sick, and disgusting to even know and I would want to help prevent this from happening not getting worse.
Unicef are another great charity, for just £5 a month, you could provide the vaccines to protect the lives of 90 children each year.
Cancer research cost £2 a month to let them plan out long term research, and if anyone in your family got cancer and they did find a cure through cancer research you would be thanking the ******* high heavens that people donated.
So thank god not all people in the world think like you, think charities are pointless. God forbid you ever get ill and needed help and support from charities. When you say there pointless think about all the kids who are getting sexually abused, all the dogs, cat and animals getting beaten and the starving children in Africa, mothers and fathers dying of cancer and disease god knows who's next? I'd love to stop that, things us human's have caused, we should stop.
An the reason charities make sad TV adverts, lmao is because things on those adverts really do happen. It is to play up on guilt but of course those things happen in real life. There aim is to make more people aware, stop the stuff that is happening to the world. Like we go so low at the beat our own animals? An throw them our on a street, making them homeless thats just outrageous behaviour.
I hope you do realise not all charities are just a scam for money, they want to help and change the world. Alot of people do.
Its not of the thing of wasting you money, its the gratitude you get knowing you helped someone.
My view on your statement is that your very ignorant and narrow minded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sabbath
The only charities I give to are OXFAM (as my grandma used to work there), HERIB (my grandma became blind), Guide Dogs for the Blind & RSCPA.
Well, in fact, my WHOLE family gives to the stated charities.
Precisely. I'm not saying it's a bad thing to give to charity as obviously it does have a benefit, but ultimately (just like any act) it's for your own good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fart
I don't mind giving charity shops old, unwanted items, but I wouldn't give them money to hand. If it wasn't for tax in this country then maybe.
The thing I don't get is, they have adverts saying bla bla has to walk 10 miles to get water... simple solution: move closer?
Why can't some of the money go towards a block of flats or something, that solves the living in dirty huts.. which is one of the problems. They get diseases because they live in dirty conditions.
Why can't they build something to recycle water - we do.. even our toilet water gets recycled.
When.. or If, you're ill. Most of hte medicine researchers money comes from charity. So be grateful. Very blunt veiw, although in some sense true. But you should be more grateful - and not to be so selfsih that you cant see the effects of where your money is going.
LOL winnerQuote:
Originally Posted by Jack120
Its true though. If your not happy where you live, then move some where else. It can't be too hard making a mud hut?Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
Thats such a stupid view I think you need to do some research.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack120
meh, putting more money into research i dont think is the answer. having a charity that helps, lets say, cancer victims pay for their treatment is a-okay. but putting the money twards research doesnt seem effective. its not like i think people should stop looking for a cure for cancer, but i see it as a lost cause really. i dont see how money will help.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezzie.
Yes... that is all true in some respects. Though, it's clear charity is not all a waste of time. A lot of organisations wouldnt exist without donated money, especially for things such as research. Maybe you should justify your views, you've made it a bit too broad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sabbath
RedStratocas, without research how would you find cures? if no one bothered to find them. It's an expensive process.. you may think cancer is a lost cause, but people could have thought the same way many years ago about other illnesses. Plus, there are cures for cancer, just not all types, so it can't be that much of a loss cause.
Well, I wouldn't say cancer research is a lost cause, because like aids, the cure for cancer is lots and lots of money. Although sometimes I wonder if the money given to those TV adverts, goes towards the 5 minute airtime on TV.
You can install software on your computer which helps work out something (I think its to do with cancer). So whilst your computer is on, it also does something and then submits its findings.
Well.. you can with your PS3, you can prob with your computer :P
Some Charities are things like 'Restore this stupid yacht or this decrepit plane', I hardly see anything wrong with them, you at least see how it's spent. Charity doesn't mean saving lives.
I'm afraid I can't stand animal charities but that might have something to do with my hatred for pets, personally I think Human charities are far more important but I'm not going to debate that as I'll just lose.
My family recently got affected by Cancer and my cousin died from Asthma, I've always respected these charity's but once something happens to someone you know, you have much more confidence in Charity's and you also have a feeling of guilt you never contributed much before.
I don't see the benefits and I'm a little sceptical as it is about third world charities, I'd rather pay higher tax's or let more of the tax be spent there and let our government sort out Third World Countries by them sending aid directly and helping the governments, it's far more reliable than trusting a charity.