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That's very true, but by the looks of things, most people are voting Democrats because of Obama (Race, personality and propaganda) but the Republicans are being voted for more because of their experience and most importantly, policies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dentafrice
But Palin isn't experienced what-so-ever, does that not worry you at all? Oh and how was she speaking last night.
The H(c)ocky mum got booed, lol!
She was speaking.. and looking great last night :]Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordy
She has far more experience then Obama I can say that. She has major executive experience, I mean for god sakes.. she ran a whole state and turned it around completely.. cut half a billion dollars in stupid expenses.. and basically made it a great state.
What has Obama done? He was a community planner, congratulations.. he handled the parties inside of the town hall...
Being president is a lot more about making decisions about a country, not what color streamers to have in the white house.
Plus, Obama doesn't have much legislative experience either.. he's voted present on 90% of the bills that has come his way.
PRESENT.
Not yes.. not no.. because he can't make a decision.
So instead of making up his mind.. he said "I'm here.." which makes everything all right :\
McCain is too old at 72.
Well it's stupid.. if the girl is raped.. should she not ******* tell someone? You do understand they have "morning after pills.." that can take care of the thing instantly..Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveTaylor//
It's their own damn fault if they wait two months, then tell someone.. hey I'm pregnant.. daddy raped me 2 months ago..
There are other alternatives.
Like abortion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dentafrice
Also McCain opposes same-sex marriages...
I'm actually writing an article about U.S politics, which is gonna be avalible a day before the action polls, and it's all to do with why Obama seems to be getting more support - there's an obvious one , but there's a lot more detail into it. If you guys wanna help me out or something, then drop me a line.
Being gay, that's what makes me wanna vote for Obama.Quote:
Originally Posted by Technologic
So what if he's 1000000x older than you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fugato
He's 5.53846154 times older than me.
You must have a good calculator haha.
So does more then half of America.. considering America is a christian country.. and more then half have christian values... of course a christian/republican candidate is going to have those values..Quote:
Originally Posted by Technologic
It's that simple.. that's the way being bi-partisan works.
Yeah but we in the modern world now. So the USA should agree to same sex marriage to be honest with you. (I don't know what the laws are at the moment, as I don't live there.) But Obama to win :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Dentafrice
Easier said than done, in Dubai you'd be arrested for kissing a same sex friend, women aren't even allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia and in Israel it's illegal for Jewish to light fires on Sundays, meanwhile in China you're not allowed to protect against the government. They're all modern countries which live by religeous values, I guess if you're an atheist you're going to disagree with them, but all you can really do is respect and understand their decisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by MattGarner
I'm sorry but there is no way McCain should be allowed to win. He could pop his clogg any time soon which would put Palin in charge of the most powerful country in the world.
Palin is mental. McCain is too old and if something happens to him, Palin will be Potus. No thanks. I dont want Palin to be the leader of the free world.
McCain made a right and a wrong decision in Sarah Palin. It worked because everyones like OMG A LADY but she totally overshadowed McCain. Like the pic above, I'm sure some people think Sarah Palin IS running for presidency. Her buzz just totally undermines him.
McCain admits he doesnt know much about the Economy. Great!
But Americans should elect McCain-Palin, cos she knows where Russia is!
That's not a good point at all.. yeah.. it's the modern world, I'll agree with that.. but this is to do with religion.Quote:
Originally Posted by MattGarner
You're telling an entire country to change their beliefs and morals (most based on religion) just because it is the modern world and we should support gays.
That's like going to India and telling them it is the modern world, they need to eat cows, because they are starving. They don't eat cows because of religion and morals.. so changing that is just as stupid.
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Originally Posted by Cod
People don't understand that the president really doesn't have much power at all.. he can veto bills (those go back to congress and they can overrule that).Quote:
Originally Posted by Soil
He's basically the face of congress.. he can't declare war.. he can't send troops in for more then 60 days.. so he really just represents us.. congress does all the deciding, etc.
He doesn't have that much power. At all.
It is like the 1997 Labour landslide, everyone was fooled by the propaganda and thought things were going to get better, they didn't, they got worse.
I just hope for Americas sake that Obama isn't another Blair or Brown who will sink them more into debt and despair.
McCain to win, obama to lose, didn't two guys try to assasinate obama?..
I'm sure some skinheads were going to kill 88 school kids, decapitate 14 then kill obama.
Mccain looks like hes 90 odd, and is a joke.
Palin is a which, stuck up person you wouldn't want to meet.
Obama & his running partner are fantastic, and they can really make change.
Kennedy is the one who said religion and politics should be kept apart and you all bummed off him. However.. it's his fault half of america is ******ed given his speech on how america should be america policing of ther world
well you forgot a tiny little job he had called united states senator for the state of illinois. oops.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dentafrice
and as if experience matters anyway. abraham lincoln is considered the greatest of any president in history but he was only a state senator (not national, as obama is) for a few years before becoming president. warren g. harding, however, served as a senator for 6 years and is considered the worst. i dont see how people still make the whole "no experience" argument when history has shown no correlation between how effective a president is with their past political experience. it is thus no more relevant than saying someone isn't qualified for the presidency based on how many ties they own.
Mccain is that one for rednecks and the other people who don't believe in dinosaurs or whatever.
Being British I haven't followed the election much, but I'd vote for Obama - I think his policies are better, and he seems more of a leader to me... McCain just seems like another Bush to me - just older...
Of course I'm not deciding but I hope America choose Obama, I do think though that there may be in closet racism and that McCain will win - I really hope not though.
Considering i'm racist'n'all i hope mccain wins :P but im not american so ^_^Quote:
Originally Posted by Kardan
i have a great respect for mccain. the guy's obviously a great politician, and until recently he's been one of the most honest there's been in a long time, but i wont be voting for him. and while a lot of people joke about the fact that he's old, it really is a legitimate concern. which is why the choice mccain made for his vice president has been taken much more seriously than obama's choice. mccain has had cancer, and is way more prone to dying in office than any other president in history. but anyway, i dont blame either mccain or obama for the simplification of their voting blocks that come up like that. campaigns have become games, and all the name-calling is inevitable. its sad how it just divides everyone down the middle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Virgin Mary
True but the majority of people in the country were just sick to death of the Conservative party as they'd been in power so long.Quote:
Originally Posted by dantheTSAR
I believe Obama deserves to be elected president of the USA!
It will be America's first Black president and I also believe he should win because he believes in what is right and also about Same-sex marriages should be aloud which I believe is a good thing. Whereas, McCain doesn't.
Theres my view ;)
From what i remember Palin is, not McCain? i also beleive same sex marriage should be illegal, even same-sex dating should be illegal. imho.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayyte
I've met Palin, and talked to her for a good 5-10 minutes, and she's a very nice and smart woman.Quote:
Originally Posted by Earthquake
She gives a good speech, and I relate to her and her family, blue-collar hard working American Joe the Plumbers, hence why I voted for her.
Congratulations, you can call McCain old, but probably have no idea what either party stands for :rolleyes:
Ha! He's representing Illinois? Of course I know he's a senator.. but you must have forgot a tiny little aspect of that.. the main purpose of being a senator.. is making decisions.. which Obama has not.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedStratocas
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...ent_obama.html
I respect a man that can vote yes or no.. but I can't respect a man who won't represent his state, in making a decision.
I understand what you're talking about with Lincoln, but Lincoln could make a decision.. and Lincoln knew what he was talking about.. unlike Obama.
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Originally Posted by Virgin Mary
I agree that same-sex marriage should be illegal.. it's not natural.. I mean two male parts can't go together..Quote:
Originally Posted by Sc0tteh
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A woman and a mans can... -----() hence why they were made like that..?
When you buy plumbing parts.. you get male, and female ends.. not male and male ends, or female and female ends to connect to each other.
Let them do what they want inside their own homes.. but when it comes down to making them a legal couple.. screw that.
Congratulations! He could be the first black president.. that makes him much more of a great guy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mayyte
He's black! So what?
Hypocrite.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dentafrice
Your saying that you shouldn't force beliefs upon someone and yet you support a law banning gay marriage?.
Wait a second, banning gay marriage, Isn't that giving the message that gay marriage is wrong, forcing your opinion upon an entire country?
Allowing gay marriage isn't forcing anyone to change their beliefs whatsoever, it is simply allowing gay people to get married.
Are you stupid? Because you can't seem to read.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zobex
I was replying to Matt's post about saying that it is a modern world.. and we need to change and accept it..
You certainly shouldn't force your beliefs upon someone.. but you have a right to an opinion just as anyone else does.
It's not about about a "message" over an entire country.. it's about what people believe.. and what people feel comfortable with.
Allowing gay marriage is just the same.. it's saying that it is "right" and that's forcing your opinion over an entire country..
No allowing gay marriage is allowing people their own freedom. Not allowing it is completely restricting it and giving the impression that gay people are 2nd class citizens. If gay marriage was allowed it doesn't stop people from believing that gay marriage is wrong, they don't have to get married if they don't want to. Not allowing gay marriage completely stops gay people from getting married, forcing the opinion that gay marriage is wrong upon people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dentafrice
Saying that allowing something to happen makes it right is not forcing your opinion upon a country. Smoking is legal, but yet hardly anyone believes it is 'right'.
I don't know why you lot are even debating, most (probably over 50%) of America is obviously supporting Obama, and why? Because hes black. Just because he's the first black president doesn't make him qualifed to be in the big white house, just because he promises 'peace' with Iraq won't make it so - in fact, we're all making too much money off that place to even think about pulling out.
To be honest, I don't care who wins 'cause I'm an English *******. If I had to vote for one of them, it'd be McCain - he's always got a yes or a no, and thats what counts when making decisions, not the 'maybe' that Obama gives.