Apple mini display port

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31-12-2008, 07:27 PM
Rockstar

Apple mini display port

OK so if you have the new MB or MBP's youll know you cant use the old Mini DVI to VGA adapters and need one of these
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB570?mco=MTkzODk0NQ

So im presuming it goes from the MBP then you use the DVI cable can you not use a VGA
31-12-2008, 09:10 PM
Recursion

You would need a DVI > VGA converter too.
31-12-2008, 09:17 PM
Hayd93

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Originally Posted by Rockstar

OK so if you have the new MB or MBP's youll know you cant use the old Mini DVI to VGA adapters and need one of these
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB570?mco=MTkzODk0NQ

So im presuming it goes from the MBP then you use the DVI cable can you not use a VGA

You do know theres a display port to VGA as well right ? If not there

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB...mco=MjE0ODQ2NQ
31-12-2008, 09:22 PM
Jordy

$30 for a cable? Stuff like this sums up Apple for me, call me trolling or trying to cause arguments but that's ridiculous no matter who's selling it.
31-12-2008, 09:48 PM
Recursion

Considering you get them for free with graphics card, yes you are definatly being ripped off :l
31-12-2008, 09:53 PM
GommeInc

It may just be me being half asleep, but is that suggesting the new MacBooks don't have the incredibly practical, standard DVI/VGA port for projectors and monitors? That's is an incredibly poor decision by Apple... It was bad enough they got rid of it on the Air and now expect you to buy an extra item when it could of been fitted as standard. A poor decision.
31-12-2008, 10:29 PM
Recursion

You are correct.
31-12-2008, 10:54 PM
Jordy

Indeed it's only fitted for their Apple cinema display, and I mean how many people has the new one (Or one at all for that matter ;)) - They're guaranteed to make an easy $30 (or £35 in the UK!) selling the adaptor and clearly most people who want to output the screen elsewhere will be forced to buy it, but I imagine their loyal followers may just think 'Oh look Apple do a monitor lets buy that instead!' because that seems to be how Apple makes money.

Oh look we released an iPod with the ability to shake to shuffle, this is totally worth a £120 upgrade..
31-12-2008, 11:00 PM
xxMATTGxx

One of the down sides of the new Macbooks with this mini display port crap.
01-01-2009, 03:23 PM
Hayd93

Ye this is were apple really do rip you off i will agree with you there.
01-01-2009, 03:26 PM
xxMATTGxx

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Originally Posted by Hayd93

Ye this is were apple really do rip you off i will agree with you there.

Are people till upset about not having firewire or has that died down now?
01-01-2009, 03:29 PM
$B.

my mac mini came with an adaptor for a vga monitor in the box...
then again, i've had it just short of a year.
01-01-2009, 03:30 PM
Tim.

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Originally Posted by Jordy

because that seems to be how Apple makes money.

Thats also how windows makes their money through the monopoly, any mabey apples trying to get in on that.
01-01-2009, 07:31 PM
lolwut

Sorry but I don't have a clue what you're asking, could you explain better?

All I know is, if you have a MB/P with a Mini DisplayPort and you get the MDP/DVI adaptor, you can't then use a DVI to VGA adaptor because the MDP/DVI will drop the analogue signals to make it purely digital (what comes out of the MDP on your MB is DVI-I (Analogue and Digital)) you will need a direct MDP/VGA adaptor because of the way Apple did this.
01-01-2009, 07:50 PM
Awfy

Apple are like all companies, they charge for their products. Microsoft charge £137.01 for their basic operating system and £225.10 for their ultimate OS package. Yet Apple only charge £83 for their full operating system. So Microsoft are just in the wrong as much as Apple.

Apple have went with the Mini Display Port to start standardising everything across their own range. I don't see why that's a problem since that generally doesn't affect Windows or Linux users as it's only the Apple customers who need to comply. It may be a ***** now but it will eventually be a great help.

For instance the fight between Firewire and USB is a *****, where I would have to scramble through tons of cables just to get the right one. I'm now just sticking to USB as it's more recognised. Apple are just trying to do this with their own choice as it suits their new ranges needs.
01-01-2009, 07:55 PM
xxMATTGxx

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Originally Posted by $B.

my mac mini came with an adaptor for a vga monitor in the box...
then again, i've had it just short of a year.

Yeah, you will most likely still get that adapter with the Mac Mini. As at the date hasn't been updated. Although that can change in due time :)
01-01-2009, 10:04 PM
Nick.

I know it's ridiculous the price they charge, it's ridiculous. I'm waiting for the $5 Mini Displayport -> HDMI comes out from a third party (forgot the company name)
01-01-2009, 10:12 PM
Recursion

Quote:

Originally Posted by Awfy

Apple are like all companies, they charge for their products. Microsoft charge £137.01 for their basic operating system and £225.10 for their ultimate OS package. Yet Apple only charge £83 for their full operating system. So Microsoft are just in the wrong as much as Apple.

Apple have went with the Mini Display Port to start standardising everything across their own range. I don't see why that's a problem since that generally doesn't affect Windows or Linux users as it's only the Apple customers who need to comply. It may be a ***** now but it will eventually be a great help.

For instance the fight between Firewire and USB is a *****, where I would have to scramble through tons of cables just to get the right one. I'm now just sticking to USB as it's more recognised. Apple are just trying to do this with their own choice as it suits their new ranges needs.

Go for OEM then? :/ £130 for Ultimate, £80 for Home Premium.
01-01-2009, 10:23 PM
Jordy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Awfy

Apple are like all companies, they charge for their products. Microsoft charge £137.01 for their basic operating system and £225.10 for their ultimate OS package. Yet Apple only charge £83 for their full operating system. So Microsoft are just in the wrong as much as Apple.

Apple have went with the Mini Display Port to start standardising everything across their own range. I don't see why that's a problem since that generally doesn't affect Windows or Linux users as it's only the Apple customers who need to comply. It may be a ***** now but it will eventually be a great help.

For instance the fight between Firewire and USB is a *****, where I would have to scramble through tons of cables just to get the right one. I'm now just sticking to USB as it's more recognised. Apple are just trying to do this with their own choice as it suits their new ranges needs.

Nobody was complaining at prices of an OS, you can pick-up an OEM copy of Windows Vista for around £70 and with a copy of Windows you can put it on virtually any computer, unlike OS X which you can only use to upgrade the OS on a Macintosh computer. Apple do not need to start 'standardising' things, it's unlikely many monitor companies will choose this over VGA or DVI as they can simply buy adaptors and there's more money to be made with Windows & Linux computers. Much like Firewire, I doubt it will 'eventually' be a great help and HDMI is the future along with some other HD connector I forgot the name of :P

Therefore Microsoft are not as bad as Apple, it's not even like MS sells much in the way of computer hardware other than mice and keyboards, which are necessary to use a computer.

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Originally Posted by Tim.

Thats also how windows makes their money through the monopoly, any mabey apples trying to get in on that.

I also don't understand your point? Apple began the hardware Monopoly a long time ago and Microsoft don't really sell computer hardware to the same extent as Apple so they cannot monopolise. You just seem like an ill-informed idiot who's trying to start an argument or is just another unneeded fanboy.

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Originally Posted by Nick.

I know it's ridiculous the price they charge, it's ridiculous. I'm waiting for the $5 Mini Displayport -> HDMI comes out from a third party (forgot the company name)

Well at least third party manufactures can easily make Mini Displayport Hardware unlike they could with Firewire, Firewire was not an open format so companies wanting to make Firewire products would have to pay Apple a fee, luckily with Mini Displayport anyone can create stuff for it.