Habbo radio's closing, Does this mean we'll finally get something unique?

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20-02-2009, 10:17 AM
Tim.

Habbo radio's closing, Does this mean we'll finally get something unique?

Sorry if posted in the wrong section,

Now habbo radios are most likely to close, or face court action, with the exception of the odd one or two radios, does this mean we're going to finally get something new and unique!?
21-02-2009, 02:20 AM
Flisker

Yeah if anyone on this forum can afford a broadcasting license.
21-02-2009, 03:34 AM
Cushioned

Well US doesn't have the laws so really no. People can just visit any US site or say they are American and have a radio.
21-02-2009, 03:35 AM
Alexz0r

How much are these licenses going to cost anyone want to direct me to these prices?
21-02-2009, 03:38 AM
marriott0.01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cushioned

Well US doesn't have the laws so really no. People can just visit any US site or say they are American and have a radio.

If only that were true, the US are slightly stricter, the FCC have a licensing law aswell - http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/decdoc/p...adcasting.html
21-02-2009, 03:44 AM
Cushioned

And who follows that, that owns a fansite?
21-02-2009, 03:47 AM
marriott0.01

ShoutCAST Explicitly says on there website that you MUST follow copyright laws, and this is one of them copyright laws.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoutcast Website

Musical compositions and sound recordings are creative works that are protected by the copyright laws of the United States (title 17, U.S. Code) and other countries. Under U.S. law, the owner of a copyright has the exclusive right to (and to authorize others to) reproduce the work, use parts of the work in a new creation, distribute the work in whole or in part, and to publicly display or perform the work (including on web pages and through webcasting). With few exceptions, it is illegal to reproduce, distribute or broadcast a sound recording without the permission of the copyright owner. It is your responsibility to comply with the copyright laws of the United States and other countries in which you broadcast and to pay all applicable royalties to the copyright owners when you become a webcaster. Keep in mind that SHOUTcast Radio is available internationally.
There have been recent amendments to the copyright law regarding webcasting of sound recordings. These new provisions allow webcasting under the terms of a statutory license, as a way to help webcasters get permission without having to go to each sound recording's owner. The statutory license, however, has strict requirements that you must follow. Some of these requirements include the payment of license fees, limitations on the number of songs from the same album or artist that may be played in a three hour period (called the sound recording performance complement); a prohibition on publishing advance playlists; and a requirement to identify the song, artist and album on the website. There are other requirements as well. The Recording Industry Association of America provides quite a bit of information on copyright law as it applies to webcasting, and both ASCAP and BMI have created license agreements that they are willing to grant to webcasters that they believe conform to the provisions of the new copyright rules for webcasting
21-02-2009, 04:06 PM
Tim.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cushioned

Well US doesn't have the laws so really no. People can just visit any US site or say they are American and have a radio.

It wasnt a debate about whether the radio sites would continue to exist, Lots WILL close. If you could re-read its a debate about whether we may get something unique in the future
21-02-2009, 04:25 PM
Calgon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim.

It wasnt a debate about whether the radio sites would continue to exist, Lots WILL close. If you could re-read its a debate about whether we may get something unique in the future

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthrea...wpost&t=563012
Debate started.
21-02-2009, 04:52 PM
efq

Habbox Server is in the US but that means people in the countrys that signed up to PPL are not allowed to access.
21-02-2009, 04:54 PM
marriott0.01

I think the only countries that don't have these laws are the ones in Asia, who's up for moving to Asia?
21-02-2009, 06:00 PM
Moh

Quote:

Originally Posted by marriott0.02

If only that were true, the US are slightly stricter, the FCC have a licensing law aswell - http://www.fcc.gov/mb/audio/decdoc/p...adcasting.html

Except the FCC have better things to do that take down small fansites :P
21-02-2009, 06:11 PM
Dentafrice

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Originally Posted by Jack120

Except the FCC have better things to do that take down small fansites :P

Not really.. they take things really.. really seriously here, even stupid things like short wave radios on wrong channels, they will hunt you down ;P
21-02-2009, 06:14 PM
Moh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dentafrice

Not really.. they take things really.. really seriously here, even stupid things like short wave radios on wrong channels, they will hunt you down ;P

I don't think we will be on the top of their "Take down" list.

They're going to target websites which have a revenue, and possibly more than 90 listeners.
21-02-2009, 07:06 PM
iUnknown

How about hosting it on an offshore server and make a proxy on it and make all your listeners tune in through that? A server where these laws don't exist, and everyone listening through it means that they're listening where these laws don't exist as well, right?
21-02-2009, 10:28 PM
efq

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack120

I don't think we will be on the top of their "Take down" list.

They're going to target websites which have a revenue, and possibly more than 90 listeners.

No, but Sulake are aware and I'm sure they will email most fansites.
22-02-2009, 03:18 PM
Blob

Quote:

Originally Posted by iUnknown

How about hosting it on an offshore server and make a proxy on it and make all your listeners tune in through that? A server where these laws don't exist, and everyone listening through it means that they're listening where these laws don't exist as well, right?

Because that will cost more than a license.
22-02-2009, 03:30 PM
Skajo

Yes. I have a unique idea but I can't be bothered pursuing it.
22-02-2009, 03:37 PM
Sameer!

Let's hope will will be one of the luck Habbo fansites who's radio stays here!
22-02-2009, 03:51 PM
Falcon

It's not the end of the word, is it?
These habbo radios were becoming quite tacky and common..and some just damn right terrible.
Spend the money on updating this forum, some new non-habbo skins wouldn't go a miss and maybe adding something unique..