http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-b...guilty-090303/
Mmm... IMO I reckon they will be found guilty... thoughts?
People just gotta hope they don't keep logs now!
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http://torrentfreak.com/the-pirate-b...guilty-090303/
Mmm... IMO I reckon they will be found guilty... thoughts?
People just gotta hope they don't keep logs now!
Even if they lose TPB will still be around for a while. I doubt they have any logs either.Quote:
Originally Posted by *****
if they had to hand over logs a lot of people would be screwed:(.
Who cares about TPB, they share low quality releases with no bandwidth ages after it's gone to topsites & usenet.
If they were going as well as they did at the beginning the trial I reckon they won't be found guilty of much, if anything. If they are found guilty I think the whole BitTorrent network is screwed because they can just do that to every site and its dog until there's nothing left :(
USENET *** (F) right derQuote:
Originally Posted by Jewish Bear
Well that's your opinion on them, and quality is a subjective any way. Please define "ages". While most content would be on usenet before BitTorrent, there is a small amount which ends up on BitTorrent first. Bandwidth, while extremely variable in comparrison to topsites/usenet can be extremely high especially when you involve private trackers and a group of peers who actually understand BitTorrent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jewish Bear
Even if you don't like TPB you should at least give them credit for what they stand for and the way they go about it?
Let's not forget that BitTorrent is free.
You should ask your pals in /g/ that and see what they say:).Quote:
Originally Posted by Jewish Bear
I personally think Usenet is so much better, especially with Astrawebs $11 offer :8. Mainly for the reason that it maxes out my connection no matter what and 'old content' still maxes out my connection, whereas people will have stopped seeding the same 'old content' on torrents.Quote:
Originally Posted by N!ck
In terms of the time it becomes available, it's slim to none the difference.
Did they get verdict back yet? :S o.0
not for a while yet....
april 17th is judgement day I think.
Ah k thanks. ^^
They'll win, the proescutor made way too many mistakes. They had to drop half their charges, etc.
Who the hell uses /g/? Anon is not foolish.Quote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
This has confused me... what the hell is /g/?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Coldplay
I think TPB will win as they are not hosting any content on their servers... It's on the computers of the seeders and downloaders.
You are probably used to /hc/ :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Flisker
http://zip.4chan.org/g/imgboard.html
The outcome will be interesting.
It's very good that you don't know what /g is actually. Because it's next to useless:P.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flisker
I think that's just 4chan in general, unless you were to have a weird fetish. :eusa_thinQuote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
TPB won't lose, they haven't broken any laws they're linking to material not hosting it.
"Assisting in the theft of copyrighted material" was the biggist issue, are they, or are they not?
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Originally Posted by *****
I believe that's true.
And there's a few others.
Is it true they could just liquidate half of TPB?
Well, the amount of servers etc.. they have.. probably could well do!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ardemax
They figure TPB tracks over 20% of torrents.. that a big hit for the users but i believe they will be found guilty of lesser charges.. they'll just move to another country anyways..
If they get the logs, they only arrest the regular users who download alot from TPB, for me. I only download like 5 movies in one week, now i don't download from them..
In the same way that road builders and car makers are assisting bank robbers :PQuote:
Originally Posted by *****
I don't think anything will happen with the trial, as they are not hosting the files, they have too many disclaimers to get in big trouble.
They might get a small fine but I dont think anything will become of it.
Your analogy fails because road builders and car manufacturers are not fulfilling their roles in order to assist banks being robbed. Here, the defendants are intentionally using their architecture to facilitate illegal activity. It may be a moot point as far as the Swedish case is concerned, but it's pertinent to killing your analogy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professor-Alex
I have not paid nearly enough interest in the case, or know sufficient Swedish law, to form an educated guess at the outcome. If they have an 'assisting' argument against them... wouldn't that be difficult to negative given that they are knowingly facilitating illegal activity?
I dare say nobody here is well versed in the intricacies of Swedish law, so 'they will' and 'the will not' cannot easily be bandied about. Predicting the 'likely' outcome is possible... but there is not a definitive here yet. Oh, and gut instinct tells me that Sweden is probably one of the more favourable countries (for the defendants) to be tried in.
@Kevin: the vast majority of the time, disclaimers on websites count for ****.
i didnt read any posts cause too many but i read they got done for assesting copyright
Well maybe you should read the posts next time? Thats the point in a forum :S
erm noQuote:
Originally Posted by no waiii
if you had read the trial verdict is out april 17th
and its assisting*
They needa get hold of them logs! Doubt there still around though...
Why do they need to? Thats bad? :S Also they don't keep logs, too many uses use TPB each day
I don't think they will get brought down. It doesn't affect me anyway.
The pirate bay is simply a search engine. In the same way that road builders build roads for people to drive on, TPB hosts a service to help people find torrents. The fact that people decide to use the service for copyrighted material, in the same way that bank robbers use roads to get away from the bank quickly, isn't their fault, at least in principle. I'm not well versed in Swedish law either so in the context of the case I couldn't say whether simply hosting the service makes them accountable, but the analogy stands imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barmi
I do see what you're saying, but what Barmi said is right... sure, TPB is simply a search engine but it's a search engine specifically and solely designed to search for torrents. It's not like Google. Now if you said Google helps find warez just like cars help robbers get away then that'd be a correct analogy because google isn't specifically and solely made to find warez, just like cars aren't specifically and solely made to help robbers get away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Professor-Alex
And TPB isn't solely there to search for torrents containing copyrighted material. BitTorrent distros etc. can be found on there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hitman
Hmm true, however I'd say most people (who use it) download illegally. I do see what Alex is saying now, my bad. Although I didn't state illegally in my post... but the main purpose of TPB is to help people download illegal software/music, etc. If it wasn't and was solely there to provide people links to legal torrents then they'd take down illegal ones and there wouldn't be a court case and all of those emails etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by N!ck
I hope TPB wins though, the people talking them to court didn't really understand how torrents worked, thinking TPB hosted the files. :rolleyes:
ThePirateBay xD