Cameron leads way in MP scandal

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12-05-2009, 06:21 PM
UKIP

Cameron leads way in MP scandal

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8044998.stm

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David Cameron says he will lead senior Conservatives in repaying "excessive" expenses - warning that he will boot any MPs who refuse out of the party. The Tory leader apologised to the public, saying he was "appalled" by the expenses that have come to light via leaks to the Daily Telegraph newspaper.
He is repaying £680 claimed for repairs which included the removal of wisteria from the chimney of his second home.
And he said a number of his shadow ministers were writing out cheques.

A suprise to me on how hard Cameron is tackling this, and good on him. He seems to be showing thatcherite qualities now and hopefully he will continue this when and if he becomes Prime Minister. I have never fully supported David Cameron but he does seem to be moving more right-wing as time goes on, so hopefully we'll have a government which works by 2010.
As for the MP's across all three main parties, what an absolute disgrace and i'm glad they've been found out finally.
12-05-2009, 06:51 PM
Fez

Never thought I'd say this, ever, but Cameron... for the win?
12-05-2009, 07:49 PM
GommeInc

Hmmm, I think I shall vote Conservative. Yu wouldn't get this response from Labour, other than "We will get on top of this" from a Mr. Brown yet no action taken.
12-05-2009, 08:51 PM
Mrs.McCall

Good on him?

It's pathetic. They shouldn't of done it in the first place. They're only sorry they got found out.
12-05-2009, 08:54 PM
Browney

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Originally Posted by GommeInc

Hmmm, I think I shall vote Conservative. Yu wouldn't get this response from Labour, other than "We will get on top of this" from a Mr. Brown yet no action taken.

im sorry, i wont pretend to know much about politics, but is this all it takes to influence voters?
12-05-2009, 08:56 PM
Fez

I think it persuades people mainly because well... that is probably the most radical thing that we've heard in quite possibly months in British politics. The Labour party is just about driving this country into the ground and taking barely any action - whether good or bad.
12-05-2009, 09:10 PM
GommeInc

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Originally Posted by Browney

im sorry, i wont pretend to know much about politics, but is this all it takes to influence voters?

Action is usually better than no action. But that depends whether the action was good or bad. So far, Labour seem to be focusing on bad actions usually giving incredibly dull reasons. The conservatives aren't any better, true, they're policies are to back talk the Labour party, but Cameron seems to have some sense and at least gets things done.
12-05-2009, 09:38 PM
alexxxxx

Brown got shot down the other week for wanting to set limits on how much they could claim, per day they turned up to do their jobs. It's not until someone leaks the info until MPs start showing more and more support for reform. It's ridiculous, people claiming on their pools, moats, gardens etc from all sides.
12-05-2009, 09:49 PM
Fez

I kinda see the whole MPs expenses thing as this. You are a pig and the farmer feeds you, but you have to give him your bacon to help buy you the feed. But instead of selling the bacon, he eats it himself.

Yay metaphors.
12-05-2009, 09:51 PM
Skajo

Good on no-one. He did it, he allowed it to happen... he's at fault.
15-05-2009, 06:36 AM
luce

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Originally Posted by Mrs.McCall

Good on him?

It's pathetic. They shouldn't of done it in the first place. They're only sorry they got found out.

I was also thinking this. Would they be doing this if they hadn't been found out or would they still b spending more of our money getting their chimney cleaned in their second homes? I don't think they would ever come forward for this and the only reason we're having such drastic action from DC is that he want's the public to like him so he has no choice. It's just one big embarasment anyone who did it should just be told to leave.. At the end of the day which countries parliment spends the civilians money for their own personal gain. I think it's just ours.
15-05-2009, 02:22 PM
Technologic

You can't really blame them... There were never any rules put in place regarding expenses.. Some of these claims are perfectly legit it's just where do you draw the line?
15-05-2009, 02:41 PM
GommeInc

I think it's because it's an unfair and stupid system, they have a really good wage and don't need a personal claims system, only one to help out their local areas if anything (would you rather have YOUR money go towards helping the country or to go towards some one's back pocket, for example :P) If it was normal people like you and me, it can be considered money laundering and would result in a lengthy prisonment.
16-05-2009, 09:41 AM
Bun

for the votes. he's already loaded as it is, as are many other conservatives. they had no reason to claim for anything.
16-05-2009, 11:03 AM
UKIP

In that case then, everything is for votes. If that is the case, then I think a good way to determine Brown and Cameron would be how they react for votes, since Cameron has been quick and has taken more action than Brown, I think we can now see that taking action over this is better than doing nothing.

As for the Conservatives are loaded claim, true many are, and so are MP's from across the board. Labour supporters always use the claim which was true in the victorian ages but now applies to nearly all parties, including Labour.

It doesn't matter how much money you have/what party you belong to, if you have manipulated the expenses (like the minister Malik did) then you should face criminal charges.
16-05-2009, 06:19 PM
ifuseekamy

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Originally Posted by UKIP

In that case then, everything is for votes.

You think they'd actually give the money back if they weren't caught out? They're all idiots, but I can't blame them. If I had access to free money I'd take it.
16-05-2009, 09:14 PM
UKIP

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Originally Posted by ifuseekamy

You think they'd actually give the money back if they weren't caught out? They're all idiots, but I can't blame them. If I had access to free money I'd take it.

Who said that? - I believe criminal charges should be brought against the worse cases and the mild cases resolved with the MP's being sacked from the party.

There is no excuse for the majority of them, and how convenient is it that Tony Blairs expense forms were 'accidently' shredded.
19-05-2009, 03:47 PM
Bun

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Originally Posted by UKIP

In that case then, everything is for votes. If that is the case, then I think a good way to determine Brown and Cameron would be how they react for votes, since Cameron has been quick and has taken more action than Brown, I think we can now see that taking action over this is better than doing nothing.

As for the Conservatives are loaded claim, true many are, and so are MP's from across the board. Labour supporters always use the claim which was true in the victorian ages but now applies to nearly all parties, including Labour.

It doesn't matter how much money you have/what party you belong to, if you have manipulated the expenses (like the minister Malik did) then you should face criminal charges.

pfft, you know as well as i know that whatever brown does he cannot win. he tried bringing the subject up the other week, but got blasted for it.

oh and michael martin as resigned from the speaker of the house, to be implemented on the 21st June i think.