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Since some idiot mod deleted it - again
I'll just give a quick summary.
Windows 7 prices have been announced.
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Thread closed by nvrspk4 (General Manager). You can recreate the thread, but keep it on topic and flame free.
Maybe you shouldn't ask for it to be deleted if you don't want it to be?Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbocom
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/shared/img/o.gif WINDOWS 7 UPGRADE PRICES
Home Premium - £79.99
Professional - £189.99
Ultimate - £199.99
WINDOWS 7 RETAIL PRICES
Home Premium - £149.99
Professional - £219.99
Ultimate - £229.99
dammmm didn't expect them be that high
Extortionate considering vista...
Jesus christ, that really is bad. Everyone will be counterfeitting them no doubt.
Oh wait, I get a Technet account in September so it wont matter *dances*
Nice! I wouldn't mind getting myself an account their as well for stuff like this 7 Keys and so on and any other operating system but guess I will have to buy it this time around at least if I want a legit copy anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyroka
It's a bit confusing about the pricing though because the true upgrade version won't be available in europe.
That's retail prices, not OEM. Vista is a similar retail price ie. http://ebuyer.com/search?sort=priceh...imit=10&page=1
OEM prices will be less like they are with Viata. http://ebuyer.com/search?page=1&stor...93&subcat=1122
I'm surprised anyone who has seen these prices hasn't had a heart attack!
Oh... wait...
IT works out similar to Vista's pricing http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/software/...ive-198616.phpQuote:
Originally Posted by Pyroka
Remember this is RETAIL, not the OEM version that most of us buy which is cheaper.
I guess you didnt get the joke there N!ck... I'm so sick x]
OEM will be cheaper I guess, I'm just hoping they have it on MSDNAA in Staffordshire. >_>
No, I got the "joke", I was just replying to the part that related to this thread :P. And I do think these prices are a little high, but they will sell loads ad it's a great OS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyroka
Yeah I honestly dont think MANY people will pirate it, it looks pretty damn decent.Quote:
Originally Posted by N!ck
It is very immature/rude to defame a moderator, especially since they're volunteering to help keep the forum clean.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbocom
Anyways, these expensive prices upset me (along with the usual crappy multiple version selection). Why can't Microsoft release upgrades for $29 dollars, like their Apple counterparts.
Oh well, the XP that comes along with it will make it worth it. Though it's kind of funny, Microsoft basically admitting that they can't make a modern operating system compatible with third-party applications, so they're including a 9 year old operating system for compatibility, an operating system the user should have probably been using anyways, because Vista sucks.
That's right Matt&*****: I have defamed our beloved Microsoft:eusa_danc
I use to work for the MSDN and TechNet Subscriptions team in LA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyroka
And it probally won't be released right away on MSDNAA. It will most likly take a little longer for them to put in on MSDNAA.
Very high prices indeed. But, it may all be worth it as the Beta and the RC1 were excellent.
I don't like you, and I don't like the way you think Microsoft should "follow" Apple in everyway possible. This operating system offers more than Mac Os X and personally they have broken the mold for Windows.Quote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
People love(d) Windows XP because of one reason - it worked. Personally, I love it how Microsoft has added it in to help business like a transition to 7. Also, if you're having problems with Windows Vista did you ever think it's your fault? Maybe its YOUR fault for buying faulty hardware, you know that? Maybe the 3rd party who wrote the software did a terrible job - VISTA is not your escape goat. Frankly if you keep up to date, you shouldn't have a problem with it.
I've never had a problem with Windows Vista - ever. Just so you know, Microsoft has re-created Windows, and in my opinon Apples run out of ideas.
http://apublicdefender.com/wp-conten...3/facepalm.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
You idiot... you quite obviously have no understanding of why they are including XP mode with it....
I can use the excuse of being a Windows or Mac user thanks. LOL. Mac ftw!11!1Quote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
I have to agree with Turbocom too.
What's this bootcamp that comes with OS X? :S:SQuote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
I was about to leave the house when I was explaining
Basically XP mode will have the best compatibility ever. Basically programs running under it will even be in you win7 task bar e.t.c. so basically you will not even notice the virtual machine. Rather than including all the old files from previous windows as part of windows seven they can instead use XP mode and not bother including any backwards compatibility. They are using it this time round however in future it can be used for compatibility with 32bit programs (Win7 is the last version of windows to come with a 32bit version, MS claims anyway). Hopefully MS will create a bloatware OS for backwards compatibility, that way you can run any programs ever.
I think its about bloody time they forced 64bit upon consumers, we've had 64bit CPUs for long enough.
http://newmedia.funnyjunk.com/pictures/damn_process.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by Turbocom
No, you're wrong. They should follow eachother in certain ways. Microsoft could release one version of Windows, Apple could get rid of the Apple tax. Two small examples.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbocom
If you think Microsoft offers more than OSX then you don't know much about operating systems at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbocom
Maybe they added the 9 year old OS for compatibility:eusa_wallQuote:
Originally Posted by Turbocom
Tell that to the millions of people who have had problems with it (yes, I just used font styles too!). You're wrong again. I've owned several Vista machines. Though compatibility with hardware is one issue, there are many issues. Application compatibility is terrible, Vista wasn't very stable, and it's bloody slow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbocom
And you've never owned or used OSX as your primary operating system. Hmm.... you're not taking sides without knowing anything about the alternative are you? Because that would be very childish. Also, "Apple has run out of ideas?" I guess you wouldn't have a clue what Snow Leopard was, would you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbocom
Something I use to test an operating system. You'd have to be nuts to actually run Windows on a Mac and use it all the time. What's the point of paying so much for the computer if you're just going to use the awful OS that you could have gotten with a computer for $400 less?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wootzeh
You're referring to Unity/Seamless mode. It's not a new feature. Just a feature Microsoft hasn't used.Quote:
Originally Posted by 00chips
It was only Bug Fixes....Quote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
Duuuuuuuuuuuur, it helps transition you *Removed*Quote:
Maybe they added the 9 year old OS for compatibility:eusa_wall
SP2 Works, try it before you slam it. And it wasn't Vista's fault, part manufacturers didn't bother with drivers for some reason. However I have NEVER had a problem with vista.... EVERQuote:
Tell that to the millions of people who have had problems with it (yes, I just used font styles too!). You're wrong again. I've owned several Vista machines. Though compatibility with hardware is one issue, there are many issues. Application compatibility is terrible, Vista wasn't very stable, and it's bloody slow.
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Wrong again, my inexperienced friend: http://www.apple.com/macosx/Quote:
Originally Posted by 00chips
Even if it did fix bugs, bugs are annoying and should be fixed. If Microsoft shrugged off bugs like you did Windows users would be screwed.First of all, I have used Windows Vista SP2 on my Compaq laptop. Funny, I didn't connect explorer freezing with DRIVER PROBLEMZ!!1Quote:
Originally Posted by 00chips
Also, you're saying, "yeah I can't game because the drivers are crap. I'll just sit here and wait until (or if) they fix them.....just sit here, and not use these applications I need to run because even though I paid $1000 for this machine I will wait it out a few months until these problems are fixed and I can use my computer again."
No. Sorry. Doesn't work for me. That's a fail.
You never had problems with Vista? Well I doubt it. Then again, I doubt you do anything serious on the computer anyway:rolleyes:.
Why do you think snow leopard was half price? It was just bug fixes, and they are NOT features....
Also I do loads with my Computer TYVM!
You also quite obviously never used the RTM XP.... because Vista wasn't much worse than that.... Actually I have more bugs with XP than vista usually....
Pfft, for one, if you upgraded your computer to vista then your an idiot, two, as I said is was out of MS's control. It's all fixed now so deal with it...Quote:
"yeah I can't game because the drivers are crap. I'll just sit here and wait until (or if) they fix them.....just sit here, and not use these applications I need to run because even though I paid $1000 for this machine I will wait it out a few months until these problems are fixed and I can use my computer again."
Windows doesn't always come with drivers, you may have to update them YOURSELF....Quote:
First of all, I have used Windows Vista SP2 on my Compaq laptop. Funny, I didn't connect explorer freezing with DRIVER PROBLEMZ!!1
There's something up with your computer then, vista is fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
I cannot express how ignorant your claims are now. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about now. You don't know much about Apple at all and you're making statements like that? And if you don't think those are features then no wonder you haven't had problems on Vista. You probably don't understand all of its components, and its functionality.Quote:
Originally Posted by 00chips
Bull. All that needs to be said. You've embarrassed yourself enough with that ridiculous statement:).Quote:
Originally Posted by 00chips
I have never and never will downgrade XP to Vista. OEM editions of Vista sucked, driver and software compatibility wise. It was absolutely ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by 00chips
And on my aspire 9410 when I upgraded Vista drivers I got the friendly BSOD.Quote:
Originally Posted by 00chips
Don't tell me, you're madly in love with Internet Explorer and you use Windows Media Center constantly;)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wootzeh
Yes I do. Why? :) Nice change of subject btw avoiding the main topic.
I listen to enough Podcasts, tech shows I read around enough to know that the reason why it was cheaper was because they had nothing but bug fixes.Quote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
Er, no? I Probably worded it wrong...Quote:
Bull. All that needs to be said. You've embarrassed yourself enough with that ridiculous statement:).
Well you implied that you did, because every computer I have had which came with Vista WORKED, every person I know who had a computer which came with vista worked. Every report I have heard of XP->Vista failed...Quote:
I have never and never will downgrade XP to Vista.
Yes, and we're talking about SP2...Quote:
OEM editions of Vista sucked, driver and software compatibility wise. It was absolutely ridiculous.
And on my aspire 9410 when I upgraded Vista drivers I got the friendly BSOD.
IE8 Rules, (Although I use FF as I can perfectly emulate it within FF), and media center is brilliant....Quote:
Don't tell me, you're madly in love with Internet Explorer and you use Windows Media Center constantly;)?
Reasons like that I find you rude, and ignorant. It shows you have so much time on your hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
That's how Microsoft is Microsoft. They have their own way to advertise, and sell - unlike apple.Quote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
Yes, that must be it. How could I be so blind. OH wait - you're wrong think of how much money it costs to business to re-teach all their staff how to use a new operating system. Don't you think if it's a new OS they would want to redo the software to make it run better? This way they don't have to they just install it hassle free. Using WINDOWS XP.Quote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
It's imbecile people like yourself that never update the os that make it vulnerable for problems. Also, I never asked you how many Vista machines you had. This hardware problem you had, was it the same problem over multiple machines? Hm.. faulty hardware, certified for Windows Vista.. the list goes on and on. Your PC is only slow being you load so much crap on it - it can't even process anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
Glad to see you've done your research by looking at previous threads of mine. If you did you would see that I actually have a Mac Mini and do use it when I want a change. I know quite a bit about Mac actually, so :eusa_danc guess what - you're wrong again.Quote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
Apple has run out of ideas, Windows has reintroduced Windows by changing almost everything - Apple can't really change much up now can they? How much more can they change the interface? I do know what Snow leopard is, it finally has 64bit support. I await your response to this, and BTW you're a typical Canadian.Quote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
:O you use bad software, you terrible terrible person:@.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wootzeh
Oh you listen to podcasts do you? How educated. You must know everything about OSX, forgive me for ever questioning your intelligence!!!!!!11Quote:
Originally Posted by 00chips
I Have a very hard time believing that. I've seen opinions on both sides from a lot of people (some people know their stuff....erm....some people don't). That aside I form my own opinions based on my experience with that platform. Sure, I read articles and reviews; who doesn't, but when it comes down to making statements like you've made, I actually acquire a tad of experience before hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by 00chips
IE does not rule. That's ridiculous. IE sucks. I've seen better browsers written in PHP-GTK. I've seen better browsers for Windows Mobile. I rather use Netscape Navigator 7.2 than IE8. IE is a complete and total fail. I rather stab out my eyes then watch IE attempt to befriend Javascript.Quote:
Originally Posted by 00chips
The first Google image link goes to a attempting to give a damn image. And I really don't care what people half way the world think of me, sorry;).Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbocom
Oooohoo, love how you put big scarey apple in italic text there. Microsoft is Microsoft, and they are marketing geniuses. They've gotten really good at making the 5th best product a world standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbocom
Wrong. If these people are so computer illiterate than how do you expect them to be able to set up Virtual XP. Also, since theres 1000000000 different versions of Windows (as usual), you need the most expensive version (as usual) to get the functionality/features you should get in all versions. So why would companies pay 2x the price for the Ultimate version to get XP, when Microsoft keeps extending XP's support anyways? (Unless you're implying that manufactures are going to send Ultimate on a majority of systems. Didn't happen with Vista; wont happen with Win7.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbocom
Do you always infer ridiculous and stupid things about situations you don't know about? I've had four Vista machines actually, hardware issues got better, still not where I'd like them to be. As far as installing crap goes, I'm not some idiot who abuses limewire (I don't even use limewire or a P2P application on my Mac, actually, and that's rock solid UNIX with few viruses!). Have any other "interesting points" that you have exaggerated the crap out of to bring up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbocom
LOL "I know quite a bit about Mac actually" LOL you sure do! You even spelt OSX correctly in that sentence!Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbocom
ROFL. They sure have run out of ideas! There's only tons of new features in Snow Leopard. Shame:( (wait...which company stole the GUI and indexed computer searching again?)Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbocom
You're right! It's perfect already!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbocom
Wrong. OSX was already 64bit, now the apps that come with it are all 64bit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbocom
An immature and pathetic (also entirely irrelevant statement) that was intended only to cause trolling and (I suppose) to provoke me? Oh noes, you're bias!Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbocom
Because a home user DOES NOT need buisness tools, and a buisness computer should not come with media centre FOR OBVIOUS REASONS... Mac is aimed at one and a half markets, home and freelance. Also the XP mode will have a very simple guide so they will be able to do that with EASE
Also saying that IE8 does not rule means that you are relying on a fad, Fact: IE is actually a decent browser and can render most sites fine
More Fact: IE can only not render 1% of the internet because it was poorly coded.
Fiction: IE cannot render any sites
Nope, look around the reason why snow was cheap was due to lack of actual features. Also they both steal off each other, it's called buisnessQuote:
ROFL. They sure have run out of ideas! There's only tons of new features in Snow Leopard. Shame:( (wait...which company stole the GUI and indexed computer searching again?)
Leo Laporte, every day :DQuote:
Oh you listen to podcasts do you? How educated. You must know everything about OSX, forgive me for ever questioning your intelligence!!!!!!11
Nah, I just call them when I see them. Btw off topic you from the East or west of Canada?Quote:
An immature and pathetic (also entirely irrelevant statement) that was intended only to cause trolling and (I suppose) to provoke me? Oh noes, you're bias!
Stop the *****ing. The thread is about windows 7 prices not Apple vs Windows. Apple has Snow Leopard, fixes some bugs but also add and gives a lot of great features. Windows has Windows 7 which basically does the same thing. The GUI isn't important, W7 has the same taskbar and everything just different logo and a bit more shiny. SL doesn't have any UI changes apart from a few changes here and there.
ontopic:
Those prices are ridiculously high.
I was on a website today and they had windows 7 pre-order for like half price!
A decent argument, however in the end it's just excuses. Sure, you can have different versions with different features, or you could just have one version with all the features. It's easier, more liked and more convenient.Quote:
Originally Posted by 00chips
Relying on a fad? I used to be a huge Microsoft fanboy. Of course I used Internet Explorer, and after a while I began to pull my hair out because of how slow it was, and how poor it rendered basically everything compared to Mozilla.Quote:
Originally Posted by 00chips
Both steal from eachother, sure. If they didn't technology would suck. However, Microsoft is brutal and cold hearted with what and how much they steal.Quote:
Originally Posted by 00chips
More of a Chris Prillo fan myself;)Quote:
Originally Posted by 00chips
Refusing to say because I don't want any provincial-based insults:).Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbocom
Does anyone know if MSDN Retail subscribers get Windows 7 for free lol?
Invent MSDN should have a copy of Windows 7 in it. But remember its only for evaluation only. But yea. Some people don't care about that.
Cool, I might finally have something to download from MSDN then :P.Quote:
Originally Posted by HD-Christopher