Felipe Massa in life threatening condition

Yep? undergone surgery to his fractured skull and also has serious concussion.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8168807.stm

I heard earlier. Hope he recovers.

I don't see how a car should of been allowed to drive because obv something was wrong before the start to allow a spring to become detached from a car and hit Felipe Massa in the head at 200mph.

Sum it up for people who CBA to read: A spring came off a car, hit Felipe Massa in the head at 200mph. So imagine a kilo of metal hitting you at 200mph.

Slow mo vid after a few seconds: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8vmb...layer_embedded

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/...74_468x321.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/...35_306x389.jpg

oh god, hope he recovers.

God, did damage to his helmet.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8168855.stm

vid on bbc

What a freak accident too. Hope everything goes well for him. Barrachelo must feel awful! :(

It's amazing how the spring is still shooting down the track while Barrachelo is long gone.

I was watching it live, he got knocked clean out and didn't slow down a real deal. He seemed alright just before he got airlifted to hospital though - he was waving :S

Similar to Henry Surtee last week.

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Originally Posted by Geraint

Similar to Henry Surtee last week.

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Yes that was just awful - 18 years old. :( RIP

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Originally Posted by Geraint

Similar to Henry Surtee last week.

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Not really surtees died because a wheel hit him on the head? How's that similar to driving into a wall?

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What a freak accident too. Hope everything goes well for him. Barrachelo must feel awful! :(

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he'll probably want to do the same at Germany after the race... get the first flight back to Brazil.

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Originally Posted by adammm

I was watching it live, he got knocked clean out and didn't slow down a real deal. He seemed alright just before he got airlifted to hospital though - he was waving :S

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Probably to show fans that he's alright (even though he ain't)/conscious.

Hmm... hope he gets a speedy recovery (oh dear at puns).

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Originally Posted by invincible

Not really surtees died because a wheel hit him on the head? How's that similar to driving into a wall?

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Because a kilo of metal hit him(spring) in the head at 200mph :S, the wall wasn't the cause of anything.

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Originally Posted by Voiding

Because a kilo of metal hit him(spring) in the head at 200mph :S, the wall wasn't the cause of anything.

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Oh, in the report i read it said he drove into the tyre wall...

Very similar accident then, weird.

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Originally Posted by invincible

Oh, in the report i read it said he drove into the tyre wall...

Very similar accident then, weird.

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Yeah he got knocked out down the track by the spring and then cause he was unconcious his car kept going straight and then into the wall. But the spring smashed his helmet, fractured his skull and made him unconcious.

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Yeah he got knocked out down the track by the spring and then cause he was unconcious his car kept going straight and then into the wall. But the spring smashed his helmet, fractured his skull and made him unconcious.

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It's so freaky that two similar accidents can happen so close together :S

Yep and now some sort of improvements got to be made on lose parts breaking off.

To lighten the depressed air around this thread:

Heidfeld did terrible!

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To lighten the depressed air around this thread:

Heidfeld did terrible!

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There is a time and there is a place.

I'm just saying is all.

I just find it strange how he can be waving his arm in lifefulness one minute before being airlifted to hospital for checks and now be in a life threatening condition the next. I know it can happen but not like that, surely? I'm sure he'll be okay.

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I'm just saying is all.

I just find it strange how he can be waving his arm in lifefulness one minute before being airlifted to hospital for checks and now be in a life threatening condition the next. I know it can happen but not like that, surely? I'm sure he'll be okay.

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Of course it can happen like that. Don't underestimate your human body and organs.

You can be knocked out for 10 minutes for a bang on the head, get up and feel line then drop dead depending how serious it is.

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I'm just saying is all.

I just find it strange how he can be waving his arm in lifefulness one minute before being airlifted to hospital for checks and now be in a life threatening condition the next. I know it can happen but not like that, surely? I'm sure he'll be okay.

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I don't think you have quite grasped it? he got hit on the head whilst he was traveling at 180mph, let a lone the speed of which the spring was travelling? maybe 100mph? thats a 280mph bang on the head, that could break your neck, and kill you instantly, and kill you, but he was LUCKY to say the least, the picture of his helmet just after the crash is unbelievable, it even broke his helmet and shattered one side of his face, near his eye, but the helmet has probably saved his life. Yes, he was waving, but then you have to think about it, even if you have a fractured skull, you can still move your arms ect, the only reason he is in a comer is because of the anaesthetic he has been put under for his operations ect.

Can only feel sorry for the guy, gets hit with a combined power of about 300mph, then crashed head on it a tyre wall...

He'll survive, I'm glad that he will, but I am concerned for his future in F1, will take a lot to come back from this.

Good luck Massa!

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I don't think you have quite grasped it? he got hit on the head whilst he was traveling at 180mph, let a lone the speed of which the spring was travelling? maybe 100mph? thats a 280mph bang on the head, that could break your neck, and kill you instantly, and kill you, but he was LUCKY to say the least, the picture of his helmet just after the crash is unbelievable, it even broke his helmet and shattered one side of his face, near his eye, but the helmet has probably saved his life. Yes, he was waving, but then you have to think about it, even if you have a fractured skull, you can still move your arms ect, the only reason he is in a comer is because of the anaesthetic he has been put under for his operations ect.

Can only feel sorry for the guy, gets hit with a combined power of about 300mph, then crashed head on it a tyre wall...

He'll survive, I'm glad that he will, but I am concerned for his future in F1, will take a lot to come back from this.

Good luck Massa!

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Well said.

Hope he gets better soon:O

Shame it didn't get Vettel instead LOL

Good Luck Mass though, also Button did terrible only 8th.

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I don't think you have quite grasped it? he got hit on the head whilst he was traveling at 180mph, let a lone the speed of which the spring was travelling? maybe 100mph? thats a 280mph bang on the head, that could break your neck, and kill you instantly, and kill you, but he was LUCKY to say the least, the picture of his helmet just after the crash is unbelievable, it even broke his helmet and shattered one side of his face, near his eye, but the helmet has probably saved his life. Yes, he was waving, but then you have to think about it, even if you have a fractured skull, you can still move your arms ect, the only reason he is in a comer is because of the anaesthetic he has been put under for his operations ect.

Can only feel sorry for the guy, gets hit with a combined power of about 300mph, then crashed head on it a tyre wall...

He'll survive, I'm glad that he will, but I am concerned for his future in F1, will take a lot to come back from this.

Good luck Massa!

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I don't believe YOU grasp that he was WAVING to signify that he was OKAY and then the next thing I know, he's in a life threatening condition.

If I was about to die I don't think I'd wave.

That's all I'm saying, no need to take the moral pissing high ground which is what most people do on here.

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Originally Posted by adammm

I'm just saying is all.

I just find it strange how he can be waving his arm in lifefulness one minute before being airlifted to hospital for checks and now be in a life threatening condition the next. I know it can happen but not like that, surely? I'm sure he'll be okay.

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peoples conditions can deteriorate you know?

I've already said that in my previous posts if you actually read them but you're too quick to take the moral high ground.

The weird thing is Ferrari announced that he was in a "stable" condition, not a life-threatening one. I think he will be fine and I hope he will make a few of the last few races of the season.

This season is just a bad dream for Ferrari..

Bit of update for those who follow it: He has emergency skull and brain surgery last night and the C.T scan this morning came back negative, they hope to release a statement during the race build-up.

What's a C.T scan.
Hope he recovers and can come back one day.

Apparently he had more scans earlier and they came up negative? don't know what that means, could need more ops.

Good Luck Massa!

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What's a C.T scan.
Hope he recovers and can come back one day.

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Scans the brain for surface liquid and damage.

Yeah, liquid in the brain = big nono.

He had no brain damage, so thats a good sign. If he didn't have that helmet, he'd have no head.

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He had no brain damage, so thats a good sign. If he didn't have that helmet, he'd have no head.

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Exactly.

Blood, brain everywhere.

I am just watching the F1 live now and a tire just came off another car down the strip, if a car had gone behind him and hit him in the head like the other week then they could of been injured or killed...

They will need to sort somethings out because to have tires coming off the car just like that is too dangerous.

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I am just watching the F1 live now and a tire just came off another car down the strip, if a car had gone behind him and hit him in the head like the other week then they could of been injured or killed...

They will need to sort somethings out because to have tires coming off the car just like that is too dangerous.

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It's motor racing things fly off all the time - it has to be a PRETTY good shot to hit someone on the head. Don't start getting all FIA defensive over the issue because it probably won't happen for another 20 years.

No but car's shouldn't be throwing off tires so easily so often. Fair enough bits debris from stuff or knocks but for your tire to fly off for no reason likely because of lack of pit work securing the tire isn't acceptable.

It doesn't happen that often...