VIP Membership (New Extra's)

Please answer the poll!

Would you be willing to pay a "little" bit more for extra privileges such as...

- If possible, a An @habbox.com Email Address of your choice

- Ability to close/lock and re open YOUR thread(s) as long as you and the people in the thread are following the rules and NOT do the following such as arguing, pointless, ect.

- Reputation points for everytime you purchase VIP.

- VIP leaderboard - Win something at the end month

- Massive Competition end of every Month just for VIP members (Habbo stuff) Win stuff like Supers..

- Have the chance to write a report on stuff that's happening on Habbo on the habbox.com page and have your name appear on advertisements/events that you helped put together.

- Help out in departments, such as Rare Values, Graphics team, HxF help desk, Work with the competitions staff, ect..

so essentially you want to bring back the old vip system...

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Originally Posted by Clowgon

Please answer the poll!

Would you be willing to pay a "little" bit more for extra privileges such as...

- If possible, a An @habbox.com Email Address of your choice Used to be able to get @habboxforum.com dno if you still can

- Ability to close/lock and re open YOUR thread(s) as long as you and the people in the thread are following the rules and NOT do the following such as arguing, pointless, ect. Erm can you not already do that..?

- Reputation points for everytime you purchase VIP. You already get that.. and you don't buy VIP anymore

- VIP leaderboard - Win something at the end month Ties in with below?

- Massive Competition end of every Month just for VIP members (Habbo stuff) Win stuff like Supers.. Ok idea - the fact that you have VIP now shows you have won something or you're a manager so..

- Have the chance to write a report on stuff that's happening on Habbo on the habbox.com page and have your name appear on advertisements/events that you helped put together. Staff tbh

- Help out in departments, such as Rare Values, Graphics team, HxF help desk, Work with the competitions staff, ect.. That's what staff are for

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Unless you mean Donator instead of VIP. And then i would say the people who win VIP really don't win anything cool if you can already buy it..

No, not really just a way of moving forward tbh..

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Originally Posted by Luccy.

Unless you mean Donator instead of VIP. And then i would say the people who win VIP really don't win anything cool if you can already buy it..

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Hmm fair points.. I didn't really look at the privileges of the VIP system before so i don't know what's new or old.

Yeah i mean Donator instead of VIP... :eusa_wall

These are some suggestions that could make VIP more interesting and more worthy..

Any suggestions on how Donator can be improved just pop them here.

Edited by Robbie! (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not double post within the 15 minute edit time

Just bring back the old VIP system and see what Habbos reasoning is for being anti-fansites :P They've never said why fansites are not allowed to sell premium services, and they never will. Such a shoddy company :P

VIP members would not be able to help out with rare values.
You would first need to proove yourself, and that you know all there is to know about trading and values.
Then, you might aswell join the team.

Part time jobs wouldnt be available. There would be too many people in each department.



Also, habbox wouldnt be able to give out supers unless they were donated by someone which is incredibly unlikely, the site relies on donations and can't just give out rares that are the equivalent to £200.

Habbo have forced fansites to stop selling premium features like VIP. Best that is allowed now is the donator. Most the features are avaible to vip still, but now the only way to get VIP is to win it :)

Can anyone link me to the habbo article on the subject though, i just had a thought, but would need to check the wording used "/

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Originally Posted by Mentor

Habbo have forced fansites to stop selling premium features like VIP. Best that is allowed now is the donator. Most the features are avaible to vip still, but now the only way to get VIP is to win it :)

Can anyone link me to the habbo article on the subject though, i just had a thought, but would need to check the wording used "/

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If you mean the 'fansite way'

Link:
http://www.habbo.co.uk/articles/224-the-fansite-way

On a personal note I wonder what benefits a site has being official these days.

Nothing... why doesn't habbox claim that HxF is seperate from Hx and add VIP to forums again and say that Hx.com is doing nothing wrong?

Habboxforum is still a Habbo fansite so it must abide by the official rules set out by Habbo.
But ye, what your saying would be offering a premium service again which has been said already and isnt aloud no more. Encouraging people to buy Donator or w.e because of the benefits over not having it.

I actually laughed at this thread. :P

So basically, the forum removed buying VIP due to Habbo not allowing it, and replaced it with Donator, which comes with minimal features, as they are allowed. But what you're saying is, you want to add all the VIP features (and more?!) to the current donator, even though Habbo doesn't allow it in the first place?

I can see your logic here buddy!

No merchandiceing rule killed my original thought.

Is there an expanded version of exactly whats meant be premium features at all within the discussion forums on there? i dont appear to have access to view em.

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

If you mean the 'fansite way'

Link:
http://www.habbo.co.uk/articles/224-the-fansite-way

On a personal note I wonder what benefits a site has being official these days.

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Zilch. None. Zero. Nill. Geen. (and just translate 'none' into however many languages there are and you have my point).

Being official is nothing, just a word - a label. Habbo was better when they allowed fansites to be regular fansites AND got them involved in events. I don't see why Habbox even bothered fighting to be official, tis aload of bull frog if you ask me.

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Originally Posted by Mentor

No merchandiceing rule killed my original thought.

Is there an expanded version of exactly whats meant be premium features at all within the discussion forums on there? i dont appear to have access to view em.

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Pointing out exploits and loop-holes in Habbos rules doesn't do anything, they'll get a fansite closed down for any old reason. They're anti-competitive and don't play by the book :P If there was a way to sell VIP and not advertise it per say, they'll still get in contact getting all huffy and stupid, as with the current Sulake/Habbo management :P

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Originally Posted by Mentor

No merchandiceing rule killed my original thought.

Is there an expanded version of exactly whats meant be premium features at all within the discussion forums on there? i dont appear to have access to view em.

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Erm basically in their email to us it said people should donate just to donate and not get anything back. They expressly permitted colored usernames usertitles and avatars as these were "display items" that "recognized the donator".

I know, the logic is shaky and based on that logic we could allow so much more. But pointing that out to Sulake would result in:

1) Us being ignored or
2) Them not allowing the currently allowed items

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Originally Posted by Biohazard

I actually laughed at this thread. :P

So basically, the forum removed buying VIP due to Habbo not allowing it, and replaced it with Donator, which comes with minimal features, as they are allowed. But what you're saying is, you want to add all the VIP features (and more?!) to the current donator, even though Habbo doesn't allow it in the first place?

I can see your logic here buddy!

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Exactly! And there's no chance of VIPs just dropping their 2 cents into random departments whenever they feel like it. And you can keep them away from our nice clean Habbox.com front news page thanks :P.

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Originally Posted by nvrspk4

Erm basically in their email to us it said people should donate just to donate and not get anything back. They expressly permitted colored usernames usertitles and avatars as these were "display items" that "recognized the donator".

I know, the logic is shaky and based on that logic we could allow so much more. But pointing that out to Sulake would result in:

1) Us being ignored or
2) Them not allowing the currently allowed items

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They claim that all the furni we "buy" still belongs to them, as do all alterations we make etc. So you could say the same; anything they say you are "giving" to a VIP member actually belongs to Habbox so they are in fact gaining nothing :).

But I agree with your quit while you're behind approach with them :P.

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Originally Posted by Robald

They claim that all the furni we "buy" still belongs to them, as do all alterations we make etc. So you could say the same; anything they say you are "giving" to a VIP member actually belongs to Habbox so they are in fact gaining nothing :).

But I agree with your quit while you're behind approach with them :P.

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Logic is lost on Habbo. Seriously, you say that to them and they will reply "We're the ones holding the leesh, what we say, whether it is written down, common sense and any bit rashional, we'll ban you and get you closed down.!

Seriously, why does no-one attack the Sulake HQ building in Finland, kill the buggars :/

*Kill as in, slap ;)

Yeah as aggravating as it is the worry is if we push the boundaries (although hazy) things could just get worse for us if it was decided to get even more strict on this system. :( It's really unfair personally from my perspective that they should be able to force rules like that on fansites when really VIP was one way of getting in enough resources to support the site. However I guess nothing can really be dont about it sadly.

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Originally Posted by nvrspk4

Erm basically in their email to us it said people should donate just to donate and not get anything back. They expressly permitted colored usernames usertitles and avatars as these were "display items" that "recognized the donator".

I know, the logic is shaky and based on that logic we could allow so much more. But pointing that out to Sulake would result in:

1) Us being ignored or
2) Them not allowing the currently allowed items

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theres no point
we get most of the vip things you suggested anyway
and plus we WIN vip as a prize therefore arnt you already getting enough? O.o?

It's all because habbo wants more money because they thought they were losing it to fansite VIP purchases....Even though most of the VIP purchases at habbox were made by the older members who don't play habbo...

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Originally Posted by 00chips

It's all because habbo wants more money because they thought they were losing it to fansite VIP purchases....Even though most of the VIP purchases at habbox were made by the older members who don't play habbo...

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I doubt that's the reason really. I mean back in the day, if I was spending money and I had to choose between Credits or VIP, I know which I'd have taken :P. I also don't think the amount spent on VIP rather than Credits would be very considerable.

I just think they see it is an intrusion on what they are as fansites are only here because of Habbo and if people are spending money on them then that is also only because of Habbo. As well as that, they probably believe there is a lot of scamming potential in site owners selling so called VIP (idk they think everything's a scam lol) but if the only way to prevent the scammers doing it is prevent everyone doing it.

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Originally Posted by 00chips

It's all because habbo wants more money because they thought they were losing it to fansite VIP purchases....Even though most of the VIP purchases at habbox were made by the older members who don't play habbo...

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I sure hope that's not the reason, because if it is, Habbo and indeed Sulake, are possibly the worst company on the face of the earth for lack of judgement and reasoning.If they think people will start paying for Habbo products because they've been told (or as they have done, forced) to not buy premium services on another site, then they are as stupid as most of their rules and staff :P

Especially when loads of members of fansites are accustomed to the fansite, and not the site/person/product in which the fansite is based on. If I paid for VIP and that service got removed, I wouldnn't spend it on something less exciting and more of a waste of money like Habbo Credits :/

One theory I have come across, is that Habbo want people to use their forums, but that in itself is a rediculous idea.

To sum up, Habbo is mean, we are poor, they are laughing, we are not.

I think in the end Sulake are a dictatorship company. I would go as far as suggesting Habbox quit the official fansite system! Why you ask? Because Habbox has not benefitted by it in any way. Sulake does not care for official fansites, it only wants to make an example out of them to the rest of the fansite community. Habbox is the biggest Habbo fansite in the world, it doesn't need to publicity which Official status gives you... Mind you, does official status give any publicity apart from a little section on the fansite group page? Please do tell me if it does.

This is just one big **** up by Habbox, I'm surprised by you nvrspk because I thought you wouldve seen sense. You are the general manager of Habbox, the biggest fansite in the world. You could easily rally most of the big fansites against Sulake or just quit official status. There aren't any benefits, just disappointments and rules you must abide, which most fansites obey anyway (apart from the silly VIP one).

For the sake of common sense and freedom from the Goliath known as Sulake, quit the title of Official for all that it was, is now nothing but a worthless title.

I'd love it if some AGMS discussed this too, I doubt many people on the forum would be in objection to something as strict and unbenefitting as the European Union.

K iPhones running out of charge, bai.

Why not sell a coloured username, and give one month of free VIP with every purchase?
So people aren't paying for a premium service, just a coloured username. They can't control what we give out for free.

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Originally Posted by BritishTea

Why not sell a coloured username, and give one month of free VIP with every purchase?
So people aren't paying for a premium service, just a coloured username. They can't control what we give out for free.

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Although it's not selling of a premium service, Habbo will nit pick so much suggesting that it is, because with each coloured name comes the option of VIP membership, and you can only really get it by paying for it (using that suggestion - it can be gained by becoming a good member for a month too, but they won't care about that :P)

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Originally Posted by Pyroka

I think in the end Sulake are a dictatorship company. I would go as far as suggesting Habbox quit the official fansite system! Why you ask? Because Habbox has not benefitted by it in any way. Sulake does not care for official fansites, it only wants to make an example out of them to the rest of the fansite community. Habbox is the biggest Habbo fansite in the world, it doesn't need to publicity which Official status gives you... Mind you, does official status give any publicity apart from a little section on the fansite group page? Please do tell me if it does.

This is just one big **** up by Habbox, I'm surprised by you nvrspk because I thought you wouldve seen sense. You are the general manager of Habbox, the biggest fansite in the world. You could easily rally most of the big fansites against Sulake or just quit official status. There aren't any benefits, just disappointments and rules you must abide, which most fansites obey anyway (apart from the silly VIP one).

For the sake of common sense and freedom from the Goliath known as Sulake, quit the title of Official for all that it was, is now nothing but a worthless title.

I'd love it if some AGMS discussed this too, I doubt many people on the forum would be in objection to something as strict and unbenefitting as the European Union.

K iPhones running out of charge, bai.

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Does the iPhone come with a Rally App? :P

Are you suggesting to just get rid of the Official status in general, or to allow the use of premium services,? Because both official and unofficial sites have to abide by the Fansite Rules anyway :)

I'm all for getting rid of Official Status in general - it's useless, pointless and stupid. I'm just hoping sierk doesn't think Official Status is a godsend (which he did in the past, and got annoyed when it was removed by force). It just has no purpose anymore, Habbo and Sulake have destroyed the whole point of the Official Fansite Status. I haven't seen Habbo host any events involving Fansites in years :S

We've been informed that we'd be watched just as much as an unofficial. Though some sites might go under the radar, Habbox obviously never will.

As far as quitting official, I'm not opposed, but I see no point.

To me there are no benefits except spite, and marginal marginal downsides such as the loss of a little bit of advertizing.

In the end, if there was a reason to, I think we would.

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Originally Posted by nvrspk4

We've been informed that we'd be watched just as much as an unofficial. Though some sites might go under the radar, Habbox obviously never will.

As far as quitting official, I'm not opposed, but I see no point.

To me there are no benefits except spite, and marginal marginal downsides such as the loss of a little bit of advertizing.

In the end, if there was a reason to, I think we would.

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Perhaps it's Habbo who should get rid of the Official fansite statuses. Looking at how they treat fansites in general, it's safe to say that all Habbo fansites have to follow the same rules and standards as each other :/ An official fansite which then goes without the official status is just the same as another fansite, except it looks advertising (either alot or a tiny bit, depending on popularity, even though official fansites should have some sort of popularity to begin with).

by being official you get a tiny bit of advertising and hold bragging rights over any fan site. for example...
A - "habbox is the best site"
B - "no it's not"
A - "oh yes it is http://www.habbo.co.uk/groups/official_fansites"

Just out of interest, what have Sulake threatened to do if we aren't official and start selling VIP again? Obviously they won't have the threat of removing us from the official list and I can't think of anything they can legally do...

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Originally Posted by Professor-Alex

Just out of interest, what have Sulake threatened to do if we aren't official and start selling VIP again? Obviously they won't have the threat of removing us from the official list and I can't think of anything they can legally do...

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Bingo, they can't sue for damages because you never damaged then directly and purposely, nor can they shut you down through your host simply because you ain't broken the law. I'd be tempted to test them if I were you, just to wonder what they'd do. I mean the only thing they could do is look to the disclaimer for sulake? But even then that doesn't give them any grounds for... Anything.

Didn't know it was for unofficial too, that blows.

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Originally Posted by Pyroka

Bingo, they can't sue for damages because you never damaged then directly and purposely, nor can they shut you down through your host simply because you ain't broken the law. I'd be tempted to test them if I were you, just to wonder what they'd do. I mean the only thing they could do is look to the disclaimer for sulake? But even then that doesn't give them any grounds for... Anything.

Didn't know it was for unofficial too, that blows.

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I'm planning on doing that in a few months time....

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Originally Posted by Pyroka

Bingo, they can't sue for damages because you never damaged then directly and purposely, nor can they shut you down through your host simply because you ain't broken the law. I'd be tempted to test them if I were you, just to wonder what they'd do. I mean the only thing they could do is look to the disclaimer for sulake? But even then that doesn't give them any grounds for... Anything.

Didn't know it was for unofficial too, that blows.

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Well it is only in the 'Fansite Way' and on a personal note because of this I wonder even if it's worth being official.

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Originally Posted by Catzsy

Well it is only in the 'Fansite Way' and on a personal note because of this I wonder even if it's worth being official.

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Well I joined habbox from googling rare values and from word of mouth... I doubt many peoplejoin from habbox being on the 'official' page.

Habbo still own copyright to the images and habbo name. If habbo pull that copyright habbox would risk looseing its domains along with the rights to use any of the habbo images it has.

So habbo do have a pretty powerful tool to keep the fansites in line "/ That said, if habbo is going to force habbox out of business with these stupid rules my suggestion would be buy a new domain and switch the forum at least to another topic. Its easily big and active enough to sustain itselfs on its own merits, as very few of the habbo based users who join ever stay for more than a few weeks in the habbo sections "/

Habbo doesn't have copyright to the word hab and the word box.

Also all of habbox's images (I think) are alterations. And although habbo claims they own them, they don't.

Habbo can close down any Habbo fansite, how? Because a fansite probably has Habbo images on it, which are copyrighted to and by Habbo - including most if not all clearly recognisable Habbo alterations, using a Habbo avatar or Habbo furniture, feature or symbols. They could probably close down any fansite for having the words Habbo or Sulake, maybe even Hab if it is based around Habbo Hotel and the Habbo trademark, simply because a host will take a company's word over the fansite owner (they can't fight back :P)

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Originally Posted by GommeInc

Habbo can close down any Habbo fansite, how? Because a fansite probably has Habbo images on it, which are copyrighted to and by Habbo - including most if not all clearly recognisable Habbo alterations, using a Habbo avatar or Habbo furniture, feature or symbols. They could probably close down any fansite for having the words Habbo or Sulake, maybe even Hab if it is based around Habbo Hotel and the Habbo trademark, simply because a host will take a company's word over the fansite owner (they can't fight back :P)

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I did think of this initially but wasn't too sure. That'd be dirty tactics by Sulake, really dirty. Oh well, shutting down fansites for a product just because they want to profit of £1 per user, god help us all. Thats proper tight by them really. >.>

Couldn't you just say, ''everybody donate to us, but the minimum you can donate is £... (However much it is to buy VIP.) And if you donate, you get some special features! (E.G VIP features.)''?

Cos' if I'm mistaken, it says the minimum you have to donate at the moment is £1.

So couldn't you change the price, and add features? :D

I really don't understand why Habbo did this, they had absolutely nothing to gain.