Is this the kind of maturity we really want running the forum?

Seriously. If you've read some of these replies from SMOD's on different feedback posts, you'll see what I'm talking about.

And if you havn't, I'm going to show you now ;)

First is from Jin, the co-owner.
http://www.habboxforum.com/showpost....3&postcount=71

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Are you an idiot or do you have problems understanding english? I just said, "Evidence presented to me" so erm YAH THERES PROOF.

The complaints came from the moderators, they understand the reasoning behind evidence. For once I didn't even have to collect the evidence myself they did it all for me.

THERE WAS SO MUCH EVIDENCE THAT IT COULDN'T FIT INTO ONE PM! IT EXCEEDED A 15000 CHARACTER LIMIT!

Yet again Laggings can't accept responsibility for his own actions and throws a little hissy like the infant he is. Good riddance I say. :rolleyes:

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Seriously just reading the first and last paragraph is LOL. I mean, anyone can see that.

Second, let's track all the rules that the post has just broke.

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A1. Do not be rude – Do not insult or be rude to other members, and always respect other people’s opinions.

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I 'just' recieved an infraction for telling someone 'The sooner you leave the better' as a joke, so it's obvious 'Good riddance' and 'little hissy like the infant he is' is obviously breaking that rule. GoldenMerc (Ross) got his post edited in my thread just for saying 'Glad, bye!' (Glad your leaving) as a joke (because ill never leave you ross<3), so why don't the management respect the rules that they write?

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A10. Do not be a negative factor on the forum – This includes posting to cause arguments, unnecessary attacks on forum staff or general bad manners and attitude towards other forum members. Moderators, as always, will have the final say on whether a member is constantly being negative on the forums.

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If the thread wasn't locked, that post would, for sure, cause arguments. And I'd say that's 'attitude' towards other forum members? :S

There's for that one post by Jin. I could find a couple more, but I forget what thread it was :@

Anyways, moving on from the owner of the forum to the SMOD's that are supposed to help run it.

First I'm going to quote this rule:

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A5. Do not post private details or information – We do not allow you to post private information about yourself due to security concerns. Disclosing any information about another forum user without their consent is also not allowed. This includes: Private messages.

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Just to point out, this next bit is taken 'out of context', it's not the 'entire' private message, and wouldn't fall under this rule.

Anyways, after getting a certail SMOD upset, I recieve a series of PM replys that went something like this:

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Do not accuse me of making mistakes... do not speak to anybody in that rude patronising manner... you will not tell me what to and not to do... You need to grow up... Forum Moderators are volunteers who give up their time to work on this forum... You have no right whatsoever to be rude to them.

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I'm not going to name the mod, and I havn't copied the entire PM's, which contain a lot more.

So, we could go over the rules this broke too, but anyone with a brain can see this. If I'M getting SMOD's mad enough to send me replies like this garble of immature crap that I got in my PM one day, then you can just see how they're helping the forum run :rolleyes: As again, I reported this, it's been about 4 or so days, and nothing has, and probably will in both cases, happen.

So, this is what I'm talking about. We got a co-owner that thinks he has the right to break any rule he wants to, and nobody can do anything about it (which is the truth, sadly), and we got SMOD's that are giving infractions/warnings for no reason, or for 'whatever reason they see fit', and with the balls to PM users immature crap and litterally, and I'm using this lightly, bully other members via PM. How is Habbox/Forum supposed to be a 'friendly' enviroment with this kind of crap going on in the background?

Post your opinions, let's not get this thread closed too.

(This post contains NO rule breaking, is not releasing ANY Private Content, is NOT being rude, and is not ACCUSING anyong of anything, and shouldn't be closed unless arguments break out within the thread.)

omg all u do is complain

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Originally Posted by preposterous

omg all u do is complain

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Thanks ;) If nobody complains, nothing happens.

It's normal for people to lose their temper. Overall, the maturity of the moderators is fine. It's an online site, I don't think we should take everything so seriously tbh.

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Edited by Robbie! (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not be rude towards other members

All you seem to do on the forum is moan, you already posted your leaving thread why are you still here?

I think someones after some attention.

Everything you say about the forum seems that you don't like it so why the hell are you still here....

Me calling you a kid when you're acting like a kid isn't rude, if you act like a 3 year old girl then you'll be treated that way.

You're calling smods immature yet your the one spending your life on this forum trying to annoy people.... makes sense :S

You're clearly on this forum just to post crap and act immature and as one of the rules said be a negative factor to habbox, if i was jin or anyone with the perms you'd already be perm banned.

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Originally Posted by Inseriousity.

It's normal for people to lose their temper. Overall, the maturity of the moderators is fine. It's an online site, I don't think we should take everything so seriously tbh.

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I would assume the people that are supposed to RUN and OWN the forum should follow their own rules. And if they don't they should get the same punishment as everyone else.

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Originally Posted by Wyked

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Invalid? Did you read anything :P Don't be an ass btw.

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Originally Posted by scottish

All you seem to do on the forum is moan, you already posted your leaving thread why are you still here?

I think someones after some attention.

Everything you say about the forum seems that you don't like it so why the hell are you still here....

Me calling you a kid when you're acting like a kid isn't rude, if you act like a 3 year old girl then you'll be treated that way.

You're calling smods immature yet your the one spending your life on this forum trying to annoy people.... makes sense :S

You're clearly on this forum just to post crap and act immature and as one of the rules said be a negative factor to habbox, if i was jin or anyone with the perms you'd already be perm banned.

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Because I'm only 'hanging-low' atm. Scott, you're the one that acts e-hard in HxHD to get attention, so LOL. And I'm trying to annoy people by trying to get things changed? And there isn't a rule against posting threads like this in the Feedback, so you just failed all the way around scott.

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Originally Posted by Laggings

Thanks ;) If nobody complains, nothing happens.

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if someone cries like a baby everytime something bad occurs to them, nothing happens.

don't like the staff then leave...

You are right. It's not maturity. You are also right if it was a normal member they would be infracted. However, it isn't. Nothing can be done and that's that. I have realised that by always complaining about little things, nothing will happen. I'm a new man baby!

So like someone replies to your hissy fit leaving thread trying to explain something and you start a fight of it yeah. I don't understand all the bad press mods get tbh, I don't like some of them as people but mostly they do the job right I think. I'm hardly the nicest person around but generally I stick within the rules and the warnings/infractions that I do get are expected most of the time. It's really not difficult to not get punished even when you're not on good terms with staff, and it doesn't exactly help you to get angry about it

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Originally Posted by Immenseman

You are right. It's not maturity. You are also right if it was a normal member they would be infracted. However, it isn't. Nothing can be done and that's that. I have realised that by always complaining about little things, nothing will happen. I'm a new man baby!

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Agreed, unless serik comes on, nothing will get done about it.

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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus

So like someone replies to your hissy fit leaving thread trying to explain something and you start a fight of it yeah. I don't understand all the bad press mods get tbh, I don't like some of them as people but mostly they do the job right I think. I'm hardly the nicest person around but generally I stick within the rules and the warnings/infractions that I do get are expected most of the time. It's really not difficult to not get punished even when you're not on good terms with staff, and it doesn't exactly help you to get angry about it

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It wasn't a hissy fit, did you bother to read it? Only 1 post was actually edited, and Jins was by far the most immature of them all. I couldn't care less what terms I'm on with mods, they shouldn't be playing favorites for their friends on a forum.

stop being so bitter, the reason they act this way is because all you do is complain, if you had one nice thing to say they'd probably deal with you better. one smod's reply doesn't count for every other, i have an idea which smod it was and i reckon more smods should follow his lead because the rest (including mods) are just wimps when it comes to dealing with people and let members do the job for them. although i'd always agree that jin should maybe set a better example i don't really think "ARE you an idiot" is insulting as opposed to "you are an idiot" but the rest is deffo patronizing but what can you do about it?


I also agree that some people get infracted for jokes when others don't when they're serious, that'll always be a problem because they'll never know what's a joke and what's not, if you think a post is rude bloody well report it and if smods don't deal with it it's because they don't think it is.


if u have a complaint about a smod, there's a forum for that. nothing will ever be improved this way. :S

Clearly i act e-hard in HxHD :S if you were in there you'd see otherwise, if i acted 'e-hard' all the time i'd be constantly banned, am i banned, oh no.

You're annoying people by trying to post crap all the time, then you get an infraction and go cry to someone while sucking up to one member of management and try to turn to them everytime you get a ban/caution :S

What failed was you in general, you posted a leaving thread why are you still here crying...

Oh no you got an infraction by iadam lets cry and get another 40 while trying to insult members because i can't accept i got this infraction

Seriously matt, grow up :S

not having read any of this or following it all, all i can really say is that if it really is that bad then you know where the log out button is..

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Originally Posted by buttons

stop being so bitter, the reason they act this way is because all you do is complain, if you had one nice thing to say they'd probably deal with you better. one smod's reply doesn't count for every other, i have an idea which smod it was and i reckon more smods should follow his lead because the rest (including mods) are just wimps when it comes to dealing with people and let members do the job for them. although i'd always agree that jin should maybe set a better example i don't really think "ARE you an idiot" is insulting as opposed to "you are an idiot" but the rest is deffo patronizing but what can you do about it?


I also agree that some people get infracted for jokes when others don't when they're serious, that'll always be a problem because they'll never know what's a joke and what's not, if you think a post is rude bloody well report it and if smods don't deal with it it's because they don't think it is.


if u have a complaint about a smod, there's a forum for that. nothing will ever be improved this way. :S

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I've complained many times, seeing as it's about Jin and another SMOD, nothing has got done in days, and nothing will get done. I couldn't care less about the reason they act the way they act tbh, they're higher up, in Jin's case the HIGHEST UP, and he still continues to break rules when he knows nothing can be done about it.

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Originally Posted by scottish

Clearly i act e-hard in HxHD :S if you were in there you'd see otherwise, if i acted 'e-hard' all the time i'd be constantly banned, am i banned, oh no.

You're annoying people by trying to post crap all the time, then you get an infraction and go cry to someone while sucking up to one member of management and try to turn to them everytime you get a ban/caution :S

What failed was you in general, you posted a leaving thread why are you still here crying...

Oh no you got an infraction by iadam lets cry and get another 40 while trying to insult members because i can't accept i got this infraction

Seriously matt, grow up :S

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Is this because I removed you from my msn? :P Just goes to show the kind of maturity you have scott, but we all know that anyways.

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Originally Posted by Laggings

I would assume the people that are supposed to RUN and OWN the forum should follow their own rules. And if they don't they should get the same punishment as everyone else.

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Yes they should but users are given leeway as well (as moderators know damn well that people can sometimes have 'bad days'). If it's a user's first offence, for example, they are just given a PM. Stop jumping on everything they say and turning it into some sort of vendetta. You're making yourself look silly (and that's putting it nicely).

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Originally Posted by Inseriousity.

Yes they should but users are given leeway as well (as moderators know damn well that people can sometimes have 'bad days'). If it's a user's first offence, for example, they are just given a PM. Stop jumping on everything they say and turning it into some sort of vendetta. You're making yourself look silly (and that's putting it nicely).

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Users and Mods and Owners are three very different things. If it was ME that posted that, with atleast 2 rules broken, I'd have an infraction this instant. But since it's Jin, nothing will get done. Ever.

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Originally Posted by Laggings

Is this because I removed you from my msn? :P Just goes to show the kind of maturity you have scott, but we all know that anyways.

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it's nothing to do with msn as i didn't even know you removed me from it? so fail... lol

Evidently i'm more mature than you.

I'll also post it again so you can reply to it and not try to make some excuse to completely ignore it :)

Clearly i act e-hard in HxHD :S if you were in there you'd see otherwise, if i acted 'e-hard' all the time i'd be constantly banned, am i banned, oh no.

You're annoying people by trying to post crap all the time, then you get an infraction and go cry to someone while sucking up to one member of management and try to turn to them everytime you get a ban/caution :S

What failed was you in general, you posted a leaving thread why are you still here crying...

Oh no you got an infraction by iadam lets cry and get another 40 while trying to insult members because i can't accept i got this infraction

Seriously matt, grow up :S

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Originally Posted by scottish

it's nothing to do with msn as i didn't even know you removed me from it? so fail... lol

Evidently i'm more mature than you.

I'll also post it again so you can reply to it and not try to make some excuse to completely ignore it :)

Clearly i act e-hard in HxHD :S if you were in there you'd see otherwise, if i acted 'e-hard' all the time i'd be constantly banned, am i banned, oh no.

You're annoying people by trying to post crap all the time, then you get an infraction and go cry to someone while sucking up to one member of management and try to turn to them everytime you get a ban/caution :S

What failed was you in general, you posted a leaving thread why are you still here crying...

Oh no you got an infraction by iadam lets cry and get another 40 while trying to insult members because i can't accept i got this infraction

Seriously matt, grow up :S

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There's no need to post it twice, I really couldn't care about your opinion if you posted it 100 times over and over again. You posted your opinion, however rude it was, now congrats? -clap.

Don't accuse me of something then try to completely change the subject after i've proved you wrong then :)

and answer my question

why did you post a leaving thread then you had no intention of leaving?

want some attention? :(

Read the thread? It said I was 'hanging-low', even though this really isn't what I'd consider 'hanging-low'. Scott, stick on topic, post something actually worthwhile to read, or just stop trying to 'get even' with me :S

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Originally Posted by Laggings

There's no need to post it twice, I really couldn't care about your opinion if you posted it 100 times over and over again. You posted your opinion, however rude it was, now congrats? -clap.

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yeah that's exactly how i feel about your opinion and all your threads :)

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Originally Posted by buttons

yeah that's exactly how i feel about your opinion and all your threads :)

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I'm not the one who -repped with 'buttlicker' as the reason :P But I can give my opinions aswell.

'get even' with you? rofl. You weren't hanging low you were crying and trying to get attention OH NOES MODS BULLIES YOU GO CRY get over it you got infracted :S if you weren't so immature and act like a 3 year old girl when you got infracted you wouldn't be at this low today, shame though.

And at the get even bit are you referring to how you cried that i told roxy what you said to me after she didn't want to hire you because your behaviour on the forum then you crying at me for saying it to her giving you no chance of being hired resulting in your having a hissy fit and probably blocking me on msn? or something else.

and on the note of HxHD you were saying i act e-hard yet your the one whos currently banned from the help desk, makes sense

Are you having fun scott? Nowhere in this thread did I say anything about my infractions, and I'm not 'crying' over them. I'm posting a thread about something Jin said, and you're the one being an ass over absolutely nothing.

And I'm not banned anymore scott LOL. Arn't you the one who's had more 30 day bans from the hd than anyone else? Hmm...

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But yeah, seeing as this thread just got destroyed by scott (:S), I really don't expect anything to be done, because nothing really can be done, but atleast people can be aware of it.

You're posting a thread and got to this stage because you cried about your infractions and tried to argue with mods all the time

you don't get 30 day bans and since this ban system got introduced like 4 months ago i think i've had one ban? at most 2 :S so yeh, fail.

edit: accordin 2 hoteluser ive had 2 bans and the ban thing got done at start of year, so say 9 months = 2 bans, both for 2 days. OH IM SO e-HARD!!! :rolleyes:

Didn't read much of it just sorta browsed. To start off with it's from Jin. Who puts his money into the Forum to keep it running. He is the most senior anyone can be. Therefore, he can say what the **** he wants. No one else seems to have as much a problem as you, Laggings! You clearly just don't realise when you are in the wrong. I am pretty pleased Jin got co-owner, and I think the Moderation team we have at the moment do a good job. So yeah I am quite happy with the who is running the Forum.

also Jin if you're reading this thread

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- You give us the right (WITHOUT ANY PRIOR NOTICE) to edit, caution, temporarily ban or permanently ban, as well as your IP, or take any other measurements that we feel necessary.

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please use this to your advantage of Laggings, preferably the parts in bold.

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Originally Posted by scottish

You're posting a thread and got to this stage because you cried about your infractions and tried to argue with mods all the time

you don't get 30 day bans and since this ban system got introduced like 4 months ago i think i've had one ban? at most 2 :S so yeh, fail.

edit: accordin 2 hoteluser ive had 2 bans and the ban thing got done at start of year, so say 9 months = 2 bans, both for 2 days. OH IM SO e-HARD!!! :rolleyes:

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-Yawn Are you quite done scott?

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Originally Posted by Garion

Didn't read much of it just sorta browsed. To start off with it's from Jin. Who puts his money into the Forum to keep it running. He is the most senior anyone can be. Therefore, he can say what the **** he wants. No one else seems to have as much a problem as you, Laggings! You clearly just don't realise when you are in the wrong. I am pretty pleased Jin got co-owner, and I think the Moderation team we have at the moment do a good job. So yeah I am quite happy with the who is running the Forum.

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What's the point of rules if only a few people have to follow them?

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Originally Posted by Laggings

-Yawn Are you quite done scott?



What's the point of rules if only a few people have to follow them?

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'only a few' lol...

and trying not to speak because i proved you wrong? bless x

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Originally Posted by scottish

also Jin if you're reading this thread



please use this to your advantage of Laggings, preferably the parts in bold.

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(Can't edit) Are you really having fun Scott? You basically just 'proved' the whole 'Scott is immature' thing right there.

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Originally Posted by scottish

'only a few' lol...

and trying not to speak because i proved you wrong? bless x

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You didn't prove anything, except your small capacity for actual intelligent conversation. And yeah, if only users have to follow the rules, and not mods or anything else, what's the point of having them?

Well, firstly. I've seen things you've said around the forum, on my threads and others, and they've been quite rude, so I don't see what right you have to be creating this thread and complaining about every little detail. Jin obviously doesn't like you, get over it. Stop making yourself look like a fool by posting this thread when no one actually cares.

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Originally Posted by Laggings

You didn't prove anything, except your small capacity for actual intelligent conversation. And yeah, if only users have to follow the rules, and not mods or anything else, what's the point of having them?

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You're insulting my intelligence, lol...

Mods are following the rules evidently, i don't see mods insulting people anywhere, if a mod insults you i understand because you act like a 3 year old girl as i've said previously and deserve to be treated like one.

And evidently i proved you wrong attempting to label me as some e-hard person in hxhd when clearly you're the one whos alot more immature than me and i'm sure many people will agree.

I've even got specific people on msn saying 'if i was a mod i'd have banned him by now'... lol and from this thread it shows no-one really cares what you post tbh except maybe a few people :rolleyes: just give up now and leave (again) please xx

mods do follow the rules. if you see them rule-breaking, report it. complaining like you are won't achieve anything as the focus is taken off the rule-breaking and shifted onto you.

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Originally Posted by Meree.

Well, firstly. I've seen things you've said around the forum, on my threads and others, and they've been quite rude, so I don't see what right you have to be creating this thread and complaining about every little detail. Jin obviously doesn't like you, get over it. Stop making yourself look like a fool by posting this thread when no one actually cares.

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Jin can like me or not, I couldn't care? Feedback is feedback, I can post my opinion. :P

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Originally Posted by scottish

You're insulting my intelligence, lol...

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-Coff

Yeah but nothing gets done if they're SMOD, and in this case, if it's Jin, nobody can do anything about it because he's the highest you can get.

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Perfectly reply again ignoring my complete post. :rolleyes:

Thread Closed.

Do I have to give a reason?

One minute you are leaving the forum blaming Jin of something stupid. He proven you wrong and you got told why you were cautioned. This was all valid because you hate being proven wrong and you know the exact reason why you were cautioned after many reminders telling you not to carry on. You are rude, you break the rules and you got punished. That's it we are moving on now and so should you. Jin can say what he likes about you, he keeps Habbox running. I don't see you doing that?
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I'm sure Jin will be along soon to give another "Ownage" post. :)