Go back a decade or so and vampires in the media are evil killing machines, munching on humans and occasionally fighting a vampire hunter or two. Fast forward to now, and they seem to be little more than "girl porn".
Even with the growing media obsession with vampires at the moment, I get the feeling that the days of the *proper* vampire movie's are coming to an end. Sure there are still a few movies on the horizon where the vampires retain a little dignity, still eating people, being generally evil and not sparkling when they go outside. But with the success of things like the new twilight movies (maybe the books to, but i can avoid them more easily), how long is the age of the scary vampire going to last?
Some may point to true blood and in comparison to the twilight films, these vampires still have fangs (and avoided the abstinence only education the twilight vamps seem to have had), they still play the role of "sexy" vampire over the role of scary ones.
on a final note, aimed to twilight - why does a 100 and something year old vampire attend a high school ... pedo much?
As i've said above, i do feel the good ol evil vamp movie is under threat? anyone agree? or worse still, think they girl-porn/sexy style vampire is better?
28-11-2009, 04:17 PM
hah
Yeah i agree girl porn, but id prefer the loser in the tree anyday
the other ones looks ****
28-11-2009, 04:22 PM
Dentafrice
Yeah, Twilight's vampire is so fierce :rolleyes:
28-11-2009, 04:24 PM
Gullable
no not really, dracula vamps are weird and I WANT TO SUCK YA BLOOOOD, when twilight vamps are sexy, strong, etc.
28-11-2009, 04:28 PM
Dentafrice
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Originally Posted by Gullable
no not really, dracula vamps are weird and I WANT TO SUCK YA BLOOOOD, when twilight vamps are sexy, strong, etc.
Umm... considering vampires have characteristics behind them (like sucking blood).. I think that is a key characteristic in a vampire movie.. :rolleyes:.
So a vampire has to be sexy? I see where Mentor is coming from now.. :P they are really losing their credentials.
28-11-2009, 04:36 PM
Dan2nd
What about Buffy the Vampire Slayer they were quite evil? :P
28-11-2009, 04:39 PM
Gullable
does it matter anyway?
vampires arn't important, dont really matter tbh..:S
28-11-2009, 04:41 PM
kk.
on a final note, aimed to twilight - why does a 100 and something year old vampire attend a high school ... pedo much?
he said its cus the earlier they start in one place, the longer they can stay.
28-11-2009, 05:02 PM
Mentor
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Originally Posted by Graham,
Yeah i agree girl porn, but id prefer the loser in the tree anyday
the other ones looks ****
Nosferatu was made in 1922, so you should probs give it some credit
Dan2nd: Dunno, vampires are still pretty human in that, and those who arn't are generally played to comic effect "/
kk.: excuses, excuses - also goes a way to prove the twilight vampires have no fangs so to speak, scared of people and in hiding ... so much for ultimate predator o.0
28-11-2009, 05:05 PM
syko2006
LOL! That picture actually made me lol.
You raise good points though, I've never watched anything Twilight related, and I won't be any time soon either. Looking at that picture you can really see how vampires have come along way from what they used to be. In my mind, THIS will always be a vampire:
Sorry, you'll have to exscuse the fact that the face is Austin Powers, I couldn't think of anyone to put in there.
28-11-2009, 05:06 PM
Dentafrice
Just need a picture like that wit Darren Toogood.
28-11-2009, 05:07 PM
Gullable
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Originally Posted by syko2006
LOL! That picture actually made me lol.
You raise good points though, I've never watched anything Twilight related, and I won't be any time soon either. Looking at that picture you can really see how vampires have come along way from what they used to be. In my mind, THIS will always be a vampire:
Sorry, you'll have to exscuse the fact that the face is Austin Powers, I couldn't think of anyone to put in there.
vampires wear glasses? :O:O
28-11-2009, 05:41 PM
FlyingJesus
To be fair I don't think you can call the Twilight series "horror" as they're basically just supernatural romances, and True Blood is more of a drama. I think it's more to do with this - vampires being put in non horror films - that's killing them off. Apart from B movies and stuff so independantly amateur even Misawa can't bear to watch I can't think of any vampire horror films of late. I think it was Underworld that really made them seem so soft because they were humanised too much (even more than in Buffy), but if you made a real horror flick with real vampires I'm sure it could still be scary
28-11-2009, 05:52 PM
hah
they do have fangs in twilight, only come out when there feeding
28-11-2009, 06:03 PM
Axel
To be fair, most of the people (at least, who I know) who go to Twilight don't even really care about the fact that the story is about vampires. I don't know if this is the standard, but from what I've heard, every screening of Twilight will be packed full of teenage girls and guys who've been dragged along. I wouldn't go to see that piece of **** for the world.
And I haven't been paying much attention to True Blood because it doesn't seem very gripping, so I can't really comment on that either, but it's probably close to Twilight. I can't actually comment on Twilight because I've not seen it, but from what I've heard, I just know it's bad.
But yes, they have definitely lost their 'horror movie credentials' thanks to **** like Twilight. Truth is, not many people seem to care for scary vampires anymore, and the only way they can be used and still be popular is if they're appealing to teenage girls.
And, after posting this and navigating away from this page, I discover Twilight events are being hosted by Habbo Hotel. Well, that just sums it up, doesn't it?
28-11-2009, 07:30 PM
Japan
what is wrong with "girl porn"?
So skinny women with plastic breasts strutting around in their underwear for a music video is acceptable, but twilight isn't?
28-11-2009, 07:38 PM
Fez
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Originally Posted by Japan
what is wrong with "girl porn"?
So skinny women with plastic breasts strutting around in their underwear for a music video is acceptable, but twilight isn't?
At least they're not vampires who glitter in the sunlight.
Two different subjects - objectifying women and vampires.
28-11-2009, 07:38 PM
Cypher-
Lost Boys v Twilight. Obvious winner is the Lost Boys, they portrayed vampires perfectly for our generation yet everyone prefers bloody Twilight, its a ridiculously boring love story with an actor who cant act, he just broods constantly and men running around shirtless, genius or what :/
28-11-2009, 07:43 PM
Misawa
This should be in the Film and TV forum.
28-11-2009, 07:58 PM
Mentor
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Originally Posted by Misawa
This should be in the Film and TV forum.
I disagree, although i use films as an example, the topic refers to the very concept of what a vampire is as well as the how the new girl-porn style vampires apparing in a range of media (films, books etc) are changeing this.
In effect, the vampires looseing there fangs :)
*i'm using loosing there fangs in the more metaphorical sense, a few seemed to have missed this earlier on so i thought i'd clarify
Japan: Theres nothing wrong with "girl-porn", i just dont think it should go around parading itself as a vampire movie
28-11-2009, 07:59 PM
LoveToStack
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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
To be fair I don't think you can call the Twilight series "horror" as they're basically just supernatural romances, and True Blood is more of a drama. I think it's more to do with this - vampires being put in non horror films - that's killing them off. Apart from B movies and stuff so independantly amateur even Misawa can't bear to watch I can't think of any vampire horror films of late. I think it was Underworld that really made them seem so soft because they were humanised too much (even more than in Buffy), but if you made a real horror flick with real vampires I'm sure it could still be scary
Underworld was worth it for Kate Beckinsale in that bodysuit.
I do agree that vampires in the conventional sense are being edged out by the twilight generation crap. Still every now and then you get a decent vampire film such as 30 days of night. So long as these films appear, even if they are few and far between I don't mind looking down my nose at screaming fangirls.
28-11-2009, 08:38 PM
Axel
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Originally Posted by LoveToStack
Underworld was worth it for Kate Beckinsale in that bodysuit.
I do agree that vampires in the conventional sense are being edged out by the twilight generation crap. Still every now and then you get a decent vampire film such as 30 days of night. So long as these films appear, even if they are few and far between I don't mind looking down my nose at screaming fangirls.
Ahhh, I had forgotten about 30 days of night!
I think the ratings for it weren't great, but I enjoyed it anyway.
Way better than Twilight crap though.
28-11-2009, 08:41 PM
Misawa
Well the thread says film...
Vampires are vampires. They shouldn't be dragged down from their horror podium down to some teenage girl romantic fantasies. The Twilight films are pathetic, poorly made and rushed. I've never read the books, but the idea in itself is something that should never have been conceived.
As dumb as they are, when people think Twilight they don't think vampires, and when people think vampires they don't think of Twilight. True vampire stories are very much safe, and their authors/auteurs are probably laughing at this new garbage, I certainly would be.
