Why have they moved to the Normal Rare section?
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Why have they moved to the Normal Rare section?
Because they were for sale at SwapItShop recently
They weren't sold at the swapitshop recently, they were sold there in the first place and I believe that's the only way that they were brought in to the hotel. Dan said it's like the lasers you get from ukash and therefore he moved it.
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Originally Posted by Mr-Trainor
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Originally Posted by Wilkd
They could be classed as both, as they tread a very fine line between both super rares and normal rares. Although when compared next to Ukash, Wallie Card, Vue Cinema, PayDay+ and Habbo Club I think they belong closer to normal rares than supers.
not many gold screens were released during that swapitshop thing. this was last year... you can imagine by now the numbers decreasing into low single figures. last year gold and green screens were 7 hcs each i had my gold for a few months before i swapped it for green and then that september i got hacked and lost everything.
my point is ukash lasers etc are released in nearly the hundreds upto thousands not 10s. to be fair anything which has less than 100 in circulation in my view should be of super rare status regardless of where it came from...
everythings changing now it wasnt like this before, normal rares being moved to seasonal/miscs, ecotron in the super rares, better yet recoloured norms in the supers!
kinda begs the question what does super rare stand for if it aint rarity? but still miscs come from the catalogue, normal rares come from the catalogue/other deals.... supers dont. gold screen wasnt available for everyone unlike ukash and payday only a tiny minority could get.. i dont think version 9 was even out then so the room limit would have been 25 not 50 making it pretty much impossible to get into lost's room to grab a screen... pear tree must be super because of its rarity, i dont see how that dosent count for gold screen or even a rare released for a couple of minutes like yellow solarium
Totally agree, anything beyound 100, should be classed as normal too, that gets rid of the childline shiz, and ione stuff. Really cleans the page up tbh. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ashyboy999
It's not the quantity of an item that determines it's section, it's how it was brought in to circulation in our hotel.
The difference between lasers and screens though is that the screens were limited in numbers, with lasers you could get as many as you wanted.
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Originally Posted by Plebings
Edited by Mr-Trainor (Forum Moderator): Multiple posts merged due to being caused by forum lag.
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Originally Posted by Plebings
As Luke said, the same applies to all rares regardless of how many there are. If its released on purpose and is availble to purchase to the general public then its a normal rare, and forever will be. If the Yellow Solarium went extinct with none left being traded, and then one was given out - it would remain a normal rare.
We are folllowing the same line we have followed for years, numbers do not matter and shouldn't do. If we placed them based on what numbers there are then we'd have constant complaints 'uhh my rares rarer than his and his is a super' & 'move mine its not fair it got moved'.
They wern't available to purchase, they were available to bid on, and in turn win.Quote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
i take it im thinking out of context when i say if the green birdbath and jade dragon were first brought in as normal rares then they should of stayed that way regardless of a re-release.... consdering the section "rares" (of the catalogue) no longer exists dosent that make "limited edition" the new rares section?? meaning the rares released for minutes including the birdbath should be on the normal rares not miscs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr-Trainor
i think it was habbox homepage that stated collectables had ended so there is no rares section of the catalogue at all... limited edition releases rares so thats the new normal rare technically
unless normal rares have to cost 25 credits no more no less?
gold screens were won, not bought out of the catalogue or part of a wider ukash or payday style offer... if their normal rare then technically so is every other competition prize including the battle ball dragons, snowstorm sleeping bags and little cup trophys? purple dragon was battleball tornaments was it not?
ah the typo - a freebie for submitting an article worthy of being published in the newsie?
-Gold screens were not won, they were bought with swap it shop points.Quote:
Originally Posted by ashyboy999
-Limited edition is not normal rares. Limited edition was round even when rares were still being released.
-Gold screens are NOT PRIZES. So I do not see how you can compare them to battle ball dragons, snowstorm sleeping bags and little cup trophies.
-The typewriter was given out as a competition prize. It was just a writing competiton.
-And at the top, you've basically said it's how an item was first released/given out? If so, every item which was released after being a super rare, would still be super rare? :S I always go by 'lowest release' if you know what I mean. If an item was given out and also released with gothic, then its categorized. If an item is categorized but then released for 25c in rares, it's still categorized because it belongs to that section of furniture. Habbox management may do this differently to me though.
- the points were won? without the points they wouldnt have been able to get a screen. so to be fair it kinda was won if you the highest bidder had the most points to win the auction if plebings is correct there. they bidded with non-furni points, won and got the screen?
- yes but a rares section isnt there anymore so something replaces rares or collectables. the most logical replacement for the collectables section would be limited edition and obviously normal rares are now being released in this very section.
- as i said they won the auction with these invisible point and for winning the bidding they got the screen as their prize. virtually they had nothing before they got this screen so ye technically it was their prize for collecting these points in whatever way and winning a screen by offering the most.
- i compared them because to the gaming prizes because people bought tickets with credits which came from real money most likely. with battle ball there was a well known cheat to get 10s of thousands of xp. pay for enough tickets 5 weeks in a row u got urself a bronze dragon. pretty much bought rather than won
- the difference with supers is they dont get released. if they do they aint supers. if im not mistaken didnt the petal patch, moon patch, sand patch, snow rug last appear in the limited edition section with the heading "grab these quick they will never be released again" im pretty sure they were lol. all together on the same page.
only released, supers dont count as i say above because a super is unreleased. what i was trying to day was there isnt a rare section or collectable so if a new recoloured marquee came out in limited edition for 25 credits why would it be a misc. there is no other possible normal rare section. not known anyway
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Originally Posted by ashyboy999
-Yes, I believe it was a bid BUT you did not win points. You sell items such as old consoles and get points, I think.
-Collectables officially replaced rares. Collectables have not officially been replaced.
-Yea, kind of. Although as I said above, you can pay for points like you pay for credits on Habbo, or at least I think you can.
-Nope. They were released ONE BY ONE in the Rares section.
-The normal rares page on Habbox does NOT include limited edition items. Otherwise items like the disco sign and one way gates would be there.
It's a shame to see the Golds in normals, undoubtedbly they'll fall sharply in value but hopefully not too much, perhaps they will be more sought after as the highest valued normal rare?
You cant pay for Swapitshop points. There are certain offers to get them free like polls etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr-Trainor
i agree with what u said luke about going by the lowest release always.. thats where items like the oneway gates wouldnt be normal rare because they were in acessories at the bottom with wheel of destiny at the end. disco maybe it should be back where it belongs unless it actually came out with the misc posters on the same page.
i think undertaker was right putting jade dragon and red gothic fountain in the miscs because they were released in deals of misc bulks... what i dont agree with is the green birdbath and rare new releases being miscs. they were released for minutes and individually. my idea of a misc is one that had been released with other miscs at the same time. making it apart of that group.... fountain anf dragon were right, birbaths, newsdesk, coat rock, black chaiir and corkboard im not so sure of.
gold screen to put it simply, it is unreleased.. payday, habbo club, cat releases, ukash lasers yes they should be normal rare and everyone of them released a huge number of the same furni. i dont think super rares like the gold screen counts because it wasnt widely available
The fact is, you've given exceptions to certain rares. It is one rule for all. It doesn't matter what it was released with or how long it was released for, its where/how it was released. The Yellow Solarium was out for only 5 minutes, the Pistachio Ice Cream Machine for 15 minutes and the Green Wooly Pillow for 1 hour at 3:00am in the morning - these weren't widely availble, but the fact is that if we were there, we could of purchased that rare - just like the screen.Quote:
Originally Posted by ashyboy999
Incorrect, you couldnt just purchase the screen, there were a limited ammount of screens to BID on. You can only get the points to bid on the item by selling your own items.Quote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
Yeah, and so it was open to anyone to buy/bid - same thing. It wasn't a closed competition/prize, it was a rare that you could purchase with points.
You still dont understand, there was a LIMITED ammount given out, about 10Quote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
You didnt purchase/buy it, you bidded on it.
It doesn't matter whether it was limited or not, I know there were a limited amount (20 - 25) sold. On the bidding, yes which is buying something. If you bid on something, you are buying something just like when people trade for super rares they bid on them.