Thread title says it all really.
Would you like a safe middleman (possibly a moderator), who both halves of a trade would need to go through to ensure that all pin trades are fair?
Thread title says it all really.
Would you like a safe middleman (possibly a moderator), who both halves of a trade would need to go through to ensure that all pin trades are fair?
Yh thankyou :P
Yeah. But instead of just a moderator, you should have something new like 'Official Middleman'
Yeah this is probably a good idea.
The problem with this idea is that someone could be friends with the middleman and help the scam ;)
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Originally Posted by Blinger
Thats why you pick a mod or someone higher up who is least likely to scam. Otherwise it will just be a repeat of "the safe list" which was a joke imo sorry.
what if the middleman gets bored and scams then their both down
and tbh i wouldn't trust half the mods on here anyways lol
They could easily scam once in a while and the persons unlikely to video it as they're supposed to be a safe middleman and if the member is new its his word against the mod's so..
Still, you can be friends with a mod and they can help with the scam.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pos
Its better than no trading at all with the trade section dead cos no1 will go first because they dont want to get scammed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blinger
And most of the mods now are alot more trusted than they used to be.
You just have to pick out someone who alot of people trust and/or is in high management.
Anyway isnt it worth a go?
I don't use this section but thought I'd stick my nose in because all I'm doing is playing pokemon anyway so yeah if you were to go through with this I think it would need to be someone far higher up than a simple mod position - history shows that we've had untrustworthy mods in our time, it would need to be an admin at the least I reckon otherwise it's possible with high price trades that the potential gain would be far too tempting for most kids
Would be best to use an smod or someone higher up.Quote:
Originally Posted by scottish
Yes but it would need to be someone very trusted.
Someone very trusted and someone high in managment will most likely not want to/wont have time to do every single trade
i'm with ^
atm high management are rarely on habbo as it is so :S
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Originally Posted by Arch
Yeh but as people are saying there is not many trades as it is, And if they get a small cut out of it why not do it every so often? :rolleyes:
Just gonna make the community better an imo its worth a shot if it works its good if it fails then we tried.
and if it does fail then we won't hear the end of it because we could have prevented it somehow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pos
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Originally Posted by Blinger
Well at the moment no1 is trading bugger all cos there used to be too many scammers, If this gets more trades then its going to be a success, At least if they do try it means your less likely to get jacked and should hopefully increase trades.
So youll pay the small cut for all of us then ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pos
No.. But wouldnt you rather pay a hc extra than lose like 20 hc to some jebend jacking you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Arch
Its up to you whether you use it if it happens, But it might increase the trades and cut out the scammers :rolleyes:
FJ just went forward in time a few hours, read my mind and posted it here. Basically I thought I'd stick my nose in too :P because if it concerned me, I would say yes have a middleman but only if it's someone like Oli or Garion. Although I can imagine such a role being added onto the current job descriptions, becoming slightly inefficient.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
If this does go through however, could it be applied to the trading of Habbo furni for donator/VIP? I would also suggest applying it to trading between hotels.
Well i mean i never go first so i mean paying the extra bit would suck for me cuz i could do the trade fairly and not have to pay ?
And everyone wonders why there is no trades on the rs section.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arch
No one goes first im not saying the mm will deffo ask for a cut but imo id rather pay a cut than go first an lose 6£ or 15 odd hc, Wouldnt you..
& anyway its not compulsary to use a mm if you dont want to then dont..
if the intention of half the people selling/buying is to scam anyways then it still won't be done so won't increase activity, also alot of the forum don't use runescape and a minority do so it's not going to be increased by much if any.
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Originally Posted by scottish
Even so shouldnt that minority be given a chance to actually be able to trade without getting scammed everytime.. And imo the reason no-one actually trades is because literally everyone is like no not going first.
If they were gonna get scammed before then nothing is changing as the people who intend on scamming aren't going to use the MM......
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Originally Posted by scottish
But the people who are genuine will.
And it would increase the activity if it was a success as people on habbo who played runescape would start joining to use rs section again.
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by scottish
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Originally Posted by Blinger
I haven't seen you post much so not sure how active you are or if I'm just so inactive but how are the mods trusted? Orange has been a mod for like 2 weeks (I do remember you now, but purple) and the others come and go. When we had loads of people trading if no one didn't go first the trade wouldn't happen. Getting scammed was a risk habbox didn't care we made.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pos
Let me be the middleman, i wont scam, honest (a)
A forum mod would not be the middleman, it would be an smod or someone higher up like a manager. But at the moment we are just asking if you would like a middleman to help with pin trades. It would be completely optional to use him/her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum.
smods+ spend hardly any time on habbo as it is so i doubt they'd always be available when a trade is needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Orangeesh
If its optional then its not reducing scamming as the people with the intention of scamming aren't going to use the middleman anyways...
Which if they do refuse makes them obvious scammers. Giving way to the people who want legit trades :)Quote:
Originally Posted by scottish
It doesn't make them obvious scammers at all. I haven't scammed here and I'd never use a MM. So haven't most people who have built up a trusted rep and can get vouches.Quote:
Originally Posted by Orangeesh
Someone whos new to habboxforum isn't instantly going to trust a MM they never heard of or know anything about?
I sure as hell wouldn't trust most people on this forum and everyone who knows me knows i don't scam so..
no as i don't trust this sections moderator.
and just because they're a mod doesn't mean they wont scam.
Still holding a grudge against me for giving you that infraction? k mateQuote:
Originally Posted by IceNineKills
oh and if you actually read this thread you would know that the middleman isnt going to be a forum mod.
Your someone who i would never go first for anyway so i dont know what your chatting aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by IceNineKills
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Originally Posted by scottish
Right so people new to other sites like sythe and the likes dont trust a mm straight away? of course they do and tbh if they wanna get scammed let them its OPTIONAL.
Yeh except no-one on the rs section is trusted at all imo, They all acuse each other of scamming. Anyway if you dont wanna use it then dont its OPTIONAL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum.
Anyway if you was new wouldnt you rather use a mm than go first for half the people on rs section? And dont say no cos i wouldnt go first cos you blatently wouldnt get a trade.
comparing habbox to a site built to allow this sort of trading, DIFFERENCE. If i joined a site and they wished me to trade my pin/hcs to a middleman i've never heard of i wouldn't do it and would make a thread without the use of a middle manQuote:
Originally Posted by Pos
Theres no point anyways rarely anyone on the forum actually uses RS and those who do evidently have their own methods of obtaining pins, it's not as if 5 people get scammed a day or anything :S if people don't want to go first they don't trade its that simple, if someone wants the pin that much they'll go first so....
Name a trustworthy person who'd get this position who is on habbo alot then? Rarely any smod+ plays habbo so.......
Id trust alot of people on this forum. Id trust gaz + Mr-trainor [not nominating you ;)] Theres two for you and they arnt even that high up. They dont have to be on habbo alot just be able to mm when they can.Quote:
Originally Posted by scottish
Its up to you if you use it so stop moaning i for one would, to actually get a trade instead of posting a thread and gettin 5 diff replys saying not going first. If there was a mm it would increase the trade section on here, As 1 people will actually trade through a mm, 2 people from habbo hearing it trades successful would come on and start using, 3 will decrease scamming. ANd people rarely use the trading forum because literally everyone who uses it is out to scam "not going first" "neither am i" dead end neither trade..
And your saying you wouldnt even trust a mm on a site to make that? and your trying to make me convince you to use it on here. If you dont want to then dont but stop finding excuses for people who would actually benefit from it.
and i'm pretty sure its been said 3 times+ it'll be smod+ not a normal forum moderator = they 2 gone.
If you aren't on habbo alot you won't be on alot when people need MM's so it's no real help if your not available when they need you
lol? no-ones going to go around habbo saying YES I USED HABBOXFORUM TO MY PIN FOR THESE 15 HCS WHICH IF A MODERATOR SEES THIS WILL INSTANTLY BAN ME AS IT IS AGAISNT THE HABBO WAY. GOOD DAY JOIN HABBOXFORUM.COM AND USE THE MM! so it doesn't increase anything on habbo.
It won't decrease scamming as if someone has the intention of scamming they WONT use the MM so still going to be scammed if someone wants to buy.
People rarely used the trading forum because rarely anyone on habbox uses runescape as most of them have quit either runescape or habboxforum unlike back in the day when it was all made (rs forum)
I wouldn't trust an MM on here if i just joined as i have no clue who anyone is and even if the person was appointed they could still easily scam as its my word against the smod+'s?
Your complaining about me moaning yet your moaning aswell, get over it i have a different opinion to you.
So as i previously stated name a smod+ whos trustworthy and on habbo enough to do this and willing too.
Yes it will if people on habbo are like i need a rs pin someone will turn round an go try hxf they have mm so you aint gonna get scammed. ta-da increased trades. People rarely use trading section cos literally no-one will go first which means a dead end not because the forum isnt as active, Yeh i admit its not as active as it once was but its not completely dead either. Anyway it should be given ago if it fails then my sincere apologies but if it succeeds then what have we lost? We have got everything to gain from adding a mm, And if you say ppl who start wouldnt use it then thats up to them aint it.. Will bring out people who are actually prepared to buy/sell to be able to.Quote:
Originally Posted by scottish