Avatar sequels

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08-02-2010, 05:21 AM
Black_Apalachi

Avatar sequels

I would have just posted this in the Avatar thread but it's like over a month old. Anyway I was just looking at Sam Worthington's Wki page and in his filmography there is listed not one, not two but three sequels! Avatar 2 (2012), Avatar 3 (2014), Avatar the nabi rebelion (2020).

However the only other mention is on the original Avatar page which says;

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In 2006, Cameron stated that if Avatar were successful, he hoped to make two sequels to the film. In response to the film's financial success, Cameron confirmed that there will be a sequel, although development and naming have not yet been discussed.

A sequel was no doubt inevitable, even before we knew of the original film's success, but I don't think further films would be listed anywhere on Wiki without any scrap of substance to back them up, would they?
08-02-2010, 05:33 AM
Stryderman

2020 ? christ
08-02-2010, 11:11 AM
Laurensh1

Anyone can put on Wikipedia ;) But would be cool!
08-02-2010, 11:53 AM
Misawa

All a load of rubbish.
08-02-2010, 12:56 PM
dirrty

i wouldn't be surprised if the studio are pushing for a sequel in the upcoming years considering avatars success. but whether james could churn another one out anytime soon (and to meet his own standards) is another story considering how long avatar took.
08-02-2010, 02:34 PM
Black_Apalachi

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Originally Posted by Laurensh1

Anyone can put on Wikipedia ;) But would be cool!

I know but I still don't get how lol :P
08-02-2010, 03:00 PM
The Don

He is very good at making sequels, look at all his previous films. Also, the 2020 one is probably a lie a 13 year old could of put that there.
08-02-2010, 03:38 PM
Misawa

All are fake. As soon as a sequel is announced, it'll be on IMDb.
08-02-2010, 03:53 PM
LuketheDuke

I don't see how anythings fake unless its on internet movie database, a lot of stuff on there is as dubious as wikipedia.

If Cameron expressed interest in making another if the first succeeded then I'd say a sequel is more or less likely to happen.
08-02-2010, 03:57 PM
kk.

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Originally Posted by Misawa

All are fake. As soon as a sequel is announced, it'll be on IMDb.

yes, but he has talked about them sometime in january, and i remember you even writing something about that also
08-02-2010, 04:01 PM
Misawa

Cameron has stated that he has ideas for the creation of sequels, but has said absolutely nothing else. The film came out just under 2 months ago, it's too early for such announcements, and no studio would ever announce 3 or 4 sequels at once.

Every submission to IMDb is investigated, which is why unless there is an announcement for Avatar 2, it won't be on there. There hasn't been and it isn't on there. IMDb is the number one website for film, not Wikipedia. Because IMDb is fully moderated, nothing "dubious" goes up.
08-02-2010, 04:05 PM
Alkaz

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Budget $237 million Gross revenue $2,204,693,000

Pretty impressive, thats what $1,967,000,000 profit. Im sure that there would be more films, with them sort of figures I dont think they would not make another film.
08-02-2010, 04:08 PM
LuketheDuke

Christopher Nolan has made no statements about his involvement with another Batman film yet on its IMDb page hes attatched as director.

Therefore I'd say theres more scope for an Avatar sequel with Cameron at the helm if he's said he'd direct another if there was success for the first film.

And I think Im right in thinking Dreamworks commissioned 3 sequels for Shrek after its initial success back in the early noughties.
08-02-2010, 05:23 PM
Misawa

There is a difference between commission and publically announced.

There will be a sequel to Avatar.

In terms of Nolan, yes, he is on there because they can't put "(rumoured) around a director, and since he is most likely going to do it, he's there.

The fact of the matter is, NO sequels have been announced for Avatar. Will there be sequels? Yes. Everything you read on Wikipedia is some kid trying to start rumours. The 2020 date and title is especially humorous. The only credibility of those listings is the first sequel and date, because it's common sense speculation that most Hollywood sequels are released 3-4 years after the first.
08-02-2010, 07:05 PM
Neversoft

Can't trust Wikipedia. As far as I know Cameron is finally getting to work on Battle Angel, which I've been waiting for for two damn years! He has officially stated that he would like to do a trilogy for Battle Angel, since the original graphic novel it is based on could span the length of three movies (and should if he wants to do it justice), but of course he'll only do that if the first one does well. It's pretty much guaranteed it'll do well now though, after the success of Avatar.
09-02-2010, 09:03 AM
Black_Apalachi

OK thanks for clearing this up. Just for the record, I know Wikipedia isn't necessarily a reliable source of information but still I rarely find false information on it :P
09-02-2010, 10:13 PM
Sammeth.

IMDb lists Leona Lewis as being in an upcoming film called Black Jesus, go figure.
09-02-2010, 10:20 PM
Misawa

That's because she attached herself to it.
09-02-2010, 10:37 PM
Sammeth.

Yeah that Leona, always banging on about that film shes gonna be in.
14-02-2010, 08:10 PM
micky.blue.eyes

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Originally Posted by Alkaz

Pretty impressive, thats what $1,967,000,000 profit. Im sure that there would be more films, with them sort of figures I dont think they would not make another film.

It's not that much profit, the budget you mentioned was only for making the film, another 200mil+ has gone into advertising and I'm sure there are more costs. But it's still very impressive. Of course there's still DVD sales, game sales, toy sales, etc, etc.

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Originally Posted by preposterous

i wouldn't be surprised if the studio are pushing for a sequel in the upcoming years considering avatars success. but whether james could churn another one out anytime soon (and to meet his own standards) is another story considering how long avatar took.

The studios won't push James Cameron. They gave him about 80million dollars after Titanic (note: James Cameron gave up his rights to his fee to make sure he could finish Titanic. Everybody (including James) thought Titanic was going to be a huge flop.) and let him do whatever he wanted (which was deep see diving and other stuff in the depths of the ocean, and later on working on getting the technology for Avatar).

As for the sequels, they will come. As Neversoft said, he's first continueing his work on Battle Angel. I'm not sure he's going to do all 3 Battle Angel films if they decide to make a trilogie, he already backed out once, I think (and he also backed out of doing a Spiderman movie).
Maybe he'll do Battle Angel and Avatar in turns?
Anyway, the next Avatar film won't take that long (once they start production), the first one took so long because he didn't have the technology and because they had to create a fully working environment on a new planet. They now got a huge database with all those skins, so it's now roughly just a matter of copy pasting the things in (obviously post-production will still take a year or so).
14-02-2010, 08:30 PM
Misawa

The budget (film-making, marketing, everything - which is what a budget is) approached $500M. The main film-makers on projects make the most of their money with percentages known as "back end", rather than their fees: see me. A deferred fee for Cameron was made up tenfold in his back end.

Cameron can do as he pleases, and has been for years.

By the way, the production of Avatar was four years. He came up with the idea 14 years ago, wrote the script years later - the technology wasn't there - the film did not take a long time to make.