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Who else thinks Habbox killed the HC by adding a credit value? 7c for a Club sofa is rediculous. Ive not seen any sell for 7c.
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I think this fits nicely under this topic...
Who else thinks Habbox killed the HC by adding a credit value? 7c for a Club sofa is rediculous. Ive not seen any sell for 7c.
actually i think habbo killed it.
habbox just do the values by what they see
not what they want.
and i have seen people asking that little for a hc
For this move they had to go to trading rooms to see what values they could reach, and they found that they could get for 6/7c per, so If habbo's stopped selling so cheap the value would not drop.
Habbo's killed the Hc - If everyone wasn't so desperate for credits then the price would not follow.
Habbo killed the HC with the introduction of the Market place. On Sunday you could, pretty easily get a throne for between 98-100hc, yesterday people were paying 110hc and 112hc per throne, people know that the credit is becoming stronger and the introduction of new features means the HC value will decrease anyway.
Right hcs should be at 10c ITS SIMPLE THAT WAY!!!!
and ok thrones at 100hc is SIMPLE ASWELL
BUT NOOOOOO HABBOX HAVE TO COMPLICATE THINGS :(
Who else thinks that Habbox Values are a guide so you shouldn't take them as guaranteed fact and they're only influenced by the trades which take place on Habbo anyway
Ok well Habbox is guide. Values are changed from what values are seen on the hotel and reported by staff or in the report rare values forum. Fixing values like that wouldn't be right, nor would it by them items true value and people just wouldn't buy them at that price. Up untill last night the hc was still 10c and I dont know if its changed now but the true value was about 7c per hc, people trade by what they see and not always whats on Habbox.
I disagree with some of you saying Habbo Killed the HC. I can garentuee you, if habbox suddenly put the value back up to 14c all the hcs selling in the market place for 9C not 7C as habbox has valued would be purchased and everyone would be selling at 14 or 13c.
Completely wrong. The HC has been in decline for months now, that is why other values have been rising so much, because to equal the credit value of an item the HC value of an item must increase. One might wonder why values were given in HC's to begin with, the answer being because they were sought after and more attainable for trades than credits. Since the introduction of the exchange and marketplace a reverse effect has occurred. The HC was never intended to be a currency, just an item of furniture, credits on the other hand will always be a currency.
But look ppl are selling hcs in market for 8c!!! so they are still def not 7c
ikr. And why do habbox say if its in the market place you take 1c off the value because of the commision? Because actually people buy them with the commision :SQuote:
Originally Posted by Snarfull
If you mean you 'can choose your own furni' feature from buying HC I think most people would go for the majestic chair not the HC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alkaz
I manage to sell all my HC's for 10c (11c with commission) in the market place.
However, in trade rooms I sell them for 9 or 8c not 7 as habbox has put them as.
I don't agree at 7c.
iPoster next time get print screens of u selling them for 10c xxx
i will
It's rather ignorant to put such a tight price on things like that. Rare values are ALWAYS changing because people are always trading for different things. All Habbox does is simply take note of those trades and take an average. If you aren't happy with them, don't use them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Snarfull
I disagree. Habbox valued HCs at 16 credits each at one point and then people just sold them lower. You can't CHANGE what thousands of people are trading in the game. We are all born with a brain and the majority of people have the confidence to trade at something other than Habbox price. It's a GUIDE, not the Bible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Astronomist
If you're so bothered about one credit, I'm sure someone will happily give you one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snarfull
Tbh habbo is all about supply and demand. Because hc sofas are so common, and at the moment there isnt much demand for them, they dropped and will probably continue dropping. You cant change what people are willing to pay for them (unless you did like some massive campaign :P).
However, habbox is only a guideline amount and you can sell your items at what price you want. I do agree that some people treat habbox like a bible though so i can see why your annoyed.
P.S the rumour that you will be able to choose your hc present doesnt help the hc's value
I disagree with this... noobs and zeds treat habbox like a bible and theyre the ones selling the hcs to the traders. The traders refuse to buy unless theyre getting 1 credit profit. Habbox has taken notice of this and is making it impossible to make profit on hcs.Quote:
I disagree. Habbox valued HCs at 16 credits each at one point and then people just sold them lower. You can't CHANGE what thousands of people are trading in the game. We are all born with a brain and the majority of people have the confidence to trade at something other than Habbox price. It's a GUIDE, not the Bible.
Habbox is only a GUIDE and can never be 100% accurate. Just because we value the Club Sofa at 7c, that doesn't mean to say that YOU have to follow that because you don't have to if you don't want to :)
Yes but all the noobs and zeds will be buying for 7c only which will make it impossible to sell for more. And anyway. Theyre selling at 8 - 9c so value should be atleast 8.5c...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr-Trainor
My point exactly, i will be going for things worth over 1hc, for example the majestic chair and Butler.Quote:
Originally Posted by Catzsy
Habbox RVR's didn't kill the value in HC, habbo's and habbo did, RVR's only edit values on what they see reported and for proof they have there own forums for users like myself and everyone else to report rare values with proof like a print screen of a confirmed trade.
This Forum can be found at: http://www.habboxforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=306
Thanks.
Aiden ;D
If you feel a value is inaccurate, you can report it here: http://www.habboxforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=306 with any evidence you have to back up what you're saying :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Astronomist
Them Club Sofas have been stuck on there, granted you will be able to sell the odd Club Sofas for 8 C and maybe even 9 C at times but I found and others found that 7 C was the better price rather than 8 C. If we'd of updated to 8 C people would be saying why didnt we update to 9 C. My advice now as most others have worked out, just get rid of Club Sofas if you cannot be prepared to take more of a risk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snarfull
Just out of curiosity, how many Credits would 60 RD be today? Thinking back to the good old days when the the HC Sofa was like a pillar in the rare trading market - always maintained a solid value of 60 RD :8
Half a credit ehQuote:
Originally Posted by Astronomist
No Habbox just choose not to rig things?Quote:
Originally Posted by Snarfull
Habbo ruined everything when the marketplace was introduced, plus the introduction of averages, people just wanted to buy for less than the average and people who needed creds sold for less, everything doom and gloom.
The way things are going I just don't find habbo fun anymore...
Going by your rounding up to numbers with 0 on the end (or 1) let's have a quick look at how rare values would be..Quote:
Originally Posted by Snarfull
Petal Patch = 10hc
White Pillow = 1hc
Cherry and Pistachio ICM = 10hc each
DJ Deck = 10hc
Now looking at that your idea of rounding things in 10's DOES NOT ******* WORK. USE YOUR BRAIN for just 5 MINUTES. Our RVR's work and work to keep values accurate - which might I point out is what you lot want, yet you still are not happy.
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Rob. 60RD is around 20 credits :)
I normally use Lodge Corners to work this stuff out. 1c is 1 lodge corner normally, however technically lodge corner's should be 3rd - to you x the 10 lodge corners by 10 = 30RD - or x20 would be 60RD. Then you just divide that by 3 - as that is how much they are from the cat.
Of course since Marketplace that may be slightly off, as credits have increased in value - and since I do not play I dunno if norms have decreased - although I reckon they are not closer to 0.75 credits per lodge corner :P
whatever habbox gives as a price is what they are selling for on habbo. habbox dont make up the prices, they go by what they see. jeez :rolleyes:
they're sellin for 7 creds in stuff like trade city
Habbox didn't kill anything, Habbo did
Right from the Marketplace update, all the values were rumbled, and one of them has to be the price of credits within other furni, such as the HC
I've said it once and i'll say it again - Habbox is just a guide!
They just update all the rares at what people are buying & selling them at, they don't just make them up! The sooner you realise that the better
Nobody killed anything, it's all about the demand for an item and its availability, in this case it's working unfavourably towards the Club Sofa.
I would LOVE to see how Habbo would adapt if Habbox, and any other Value sites assosiated with Habbo were shut down for about a week - month
People wouldnt know what to do anymore
I imagine people would use the marketplace solely as a values reference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nyxs
Most habbos (noobs) probs don't know how to.
WE ARE A GUIDE IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT GET OUT.
This, but it's vary rare that you will find someone (that isn't a rare reporter :P) that will go along with it and not live off habbox asif it's thier life support.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr-Trainor
Thanks Dom x
Lol I reckon most noobs would just refuse to trade to begin with, while older people know what the general trends are but eventually everyone would end up relying on the Market Place like brodeo said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nyxs
Habbox has NOT killed the value of the HC. Habbo has killed the value of the HC. The rare values department are watching the value of the HC VERY closely. As -:Undertaker:- said in a previous thread that you must bare with us as we go through this difficult stage. Some things are going to be wrong.. BUT we are working on this.. So to sum up.. It's NOT habbox's fault.. It's Habbos..
The whole habbo economy is wrong and has always been.
It's not about how many of an item are in the game, it's all about how fast people want to sell it.
At first the HC was priced at 10c, then people wanted to sell them faster and went to 9c, then 9c was the normal value so they went to 8, now some go to 7 already.
The habbo normal rares economy is ruled by the masses of "stupid" people who sit in trade rooms and want to sell there furni as soon as possible.
Now if this goes on for a bit longer then HC's are going to be like Dicemasters.
HC's won't be wanted much anymore so there will be a new way which will destroy the market, either T-sofas or Majestics, or maybe people will keep undercutting eachother on the marketplace instead and ruin lots of prices.
Short version: Most prices are made by clueless players ;)
People aren't stupid for speculating, that is how markets work in real life. If people expect a value of something to fall, they will sell for a smaller loss before the expected larger loss arrives. People who want these items benefit, as they get to grab them for a cheaper price tag. When a certain item is in demand or people expect the value to rise they will be willing to pay a little more for an item. People are expecting the value of the club sofa to drop because of both Habbo and Habbox: People are speculating Habbo will let people choose their gift and then sofas will be abundant, but are also speculating Habbox may remove the club sofa as a currency decreasing its value.Quote:
Originally Posted by roboy13
Short version: Players aren't clueless, people who intend to make profit in a trading market will determine the price of an item - regular players just follow their lead.
SOFAGATE IS TIRING ME.
I think habbo should remove the HC sofas for a few months, a year, so when they come back there value will have increased. Maybe longer if needs be.