Has anybody been watching this?
My mams buzzing with it, apparently it's worked in our favour so she says.
So yeah, good stuff Mr Osborne.
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Has anybody been watching this?
My mams buzzing with it, apparently it's worked in our favour so she says.
So yeah, good stuff Mr Osborne.
Just been watching the emergency budget, very interesting actually. I was a little worried about it but it was nowhere as near as deep as I feared.
Opinions?
About the budget:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/politics/10371590.stm
can't complain to be honest he's done it as fair as he could, interesting that they're bringing most of it in in 2011 though when the tories spoke so much about doing it immediately, we've seen it's possible to change VAT immediately as when Labour reduced it to 15% in 2008.
Brilliantly presented by Mr Osborne and overall a good mandate. Just a shame he didn't cut EMA, eh?
Very happy with this, and I feel that they have made the right decisions!
I know yeah! Could save loads on that, and seeing as it's discriminatory anyway...Quote:
Originally Posted by MattFr
Good man, agreeing with me is cool. I mean, SOME people deserve it, but they should be given a free bus bass and tokens for food and books, no spending money on iPhones n ****.Quote:
Originally Posted by Biohazard
i feel its ok. But its going to be a tough road ahead.
I agree that scrapping EMA could save alot of money but it helps me out so i can't complain.Quote:
Originally Posted by MattFr
From what I have seen so far, its good.
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Yeah but when they did that, most companies made more profit. Now the prices will likely go up ;) so they need time to plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oli
scrapping loads could save alot of money, like benefits in general. Benefits just give people easy lives tbh, I think it's better to be completely unemployed then recieve money for nothing, at least make them do community service ***.
It is good (from what I've read), but it could be SO much better. Is there anywhere to literally see this in like the form of a table saying how much is given to what directly rather then the excess information in the article.
Totally agree with scrapping EMA, an absolute swindleQuote:
Originally Posted by MattFr
People should never be paid to get education. If they don't realise the benefits of it when its free, then they are dumb morons. Not going Uni ok fine, but not going college is stupid (unless ofcourse they do some other course etc).
cut ema?
cut armed forces?
cup 5,000000000000000000000000000 mps?
cut stupid youth club things that contribute nothing to anything?
piss poor.
Of course there is other things to be cut but I think these are fantastic cuts and above all, very fair. It actually takes some of the poorest out the tax system, and the people in the city are far worse off. However the best thing is it affects everyone, the tax cuts and cuts in spending. This action has needed to be taken for many years and now it's finally happened, of course still a long way to go but my faith has been fully restored in the coalition. Let's not forget the Lib Dems have agreed to all of them and added in their own things so full credit to them. My support initially dithered for the coalition, it seemed Cameron gave away everything to get into power. But in reality he has saved this nation and I think to an extent, it really doesn't matter the cost.
You had Undertaker banging on about how it didn't matter the outcome of this election because of the damned EU but that attitude really sickens me now. These cuts really do matter and our needed, that's not to say our country doesn't have issues with freedom and still needs to be paying the EU, but this is the real issue and needs to be sorted out above everything else. Labour are useless and oppose pretty much everyone of these cuts and people were saying the election didn't matter? It sickens me especially as they caused the fuss, it seems they would of gone on borrowing! I laugh in those peoples faces who think the coalition is crap and the election was useless.
Thankfully Undertaker this week is on a geography field trip so I won't have to respond to one of his essays for a while yet too :P
Good post, but who did you vote (or would have voted if you could) in the General Election?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordy
Conservatives. I was strongly against the Lib Dems at the time (more so than Labour) but despite a few of their dodgy policies which have been got rid of in the Coalition, I think they've definitely got the right idea and will admit I was wrong to be so against them. Labour are indeed the bigger problem and it sickens me they oppose everything the Coalition does, are they seriously telling me they'd carry on as they were doing? Quite a worrying prospect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saurav
Well the opposition won't suddenly start saying what the coalition does is right are they? :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Jordy
Hmm well the Conservatives were rather supportive of Labour's cuts when in opposition. There weren't many but they didn't kick up a fuss whenever there was cuts, they simply wanted more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saurav
Thing is that's because Conservatives have said from the start they wanted cuts and big cuts so they were going to support it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordy
Labour have been against cuts.
Meh, they aren't doing a bad job it seems from the budget so that's good.
I have to admit that I was a little worried about how tough this budget would be on those who are less well off. Actually though, I am pretty impressed. It seems very fair to me and affects everyone fairly and equally. The old Tory "make the rich, richer and poor, poorer" stereotype doesn't seem that applicable in this budget - it does genuinely seem as if they desire to help and are allocating resources to the right places. I really dislike George Osborne and was frankly terrified about handing power over the economy to him, but I was proved wrong (and I am glad).
I think it's fair to say we can see a fair amount of Lib Dem influence over this budget, in that it's a lot less hard hitting than the Conservatives have planned, so kudos to them too.
Oh I wondered why it was so quiet in here :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Jordy
As for the budget, cuts are always going to hurt the poorest the most but at least there has been some attempt at fairness and I'm glad to see that expenses weren't used to get Mr Osborne a new briefcase.
Yep, EMA was costing the country too much. Not to sure about the increase in VAT though...
Before you bang on about myself and the European Union (and its related to the budget anyway) i'd like to remind you that it was only last week that Cameron caved into the European elite in that the European Union will now have apparent imput from what I gather into the budget of the United Kingdom - something that is none of its business and has never been approved by the British people. Granted Cameron did see off the worst which is more than what Labour would have done, but anything less than a simple 'no' is pathetic, disloyal and unconsitutional to this country.
I will not be a fool and support a government which is going to tax me and my family more whilst cutting our sevices - but at the same time feels the need to spend more money on the European Union and increase Foreign Aid payments. I am all for massive cuts, but not while government continues to hand money over freely to the EU (which hasnt had its audits signed off for over a decade) and for foreign aid which goes to African despots and corrupt regimes across the world. I also read whilst away that the structural deficit (even with these cuts) will remain at the 40% level which means we are still paying massive amounts just to the interest. I believe and always will do that charity starts at home so if you are happy that Osborne and co are charging your parents more (and yourself within a few years) for foreign aid and EU payments then the joke is ultimately on you and your own wallet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordy
The cuts do not go deep enough or far enough.
I've not seen anything on EMA being cut? :SQuote:
Originally Posted by Sameer!
The EU is an issue and so is Foreign Aid but is is by no means the main issue. Just by cutting a few projects, the government managed to save a few billion. The EU is only a small portion of our budget, I'm not suggesting we should throw away money or that The Budget was perfect but the EU is not our main problem, the growing debt and deficit is, otherwise we'll head the same direction as Greece with riots, general strikes and ridiculous cuts having to be taken. Yet you were more than happy at the general election to babble on about how the result doesn't matter, can you honestly say that Labour would of done these absolutely essential cuts?Quote:
Originally Posted by -:Undertaker:-
The direct EU payments cost £11 billion per year lets say for example, so if we say its 40 million people that are working and pay taxes - the EU costs them £275 per year in taxation. This figure does not include the figure of over £100 billion a year that the EU and its regulations cost business in the United Kingdom so you have to think of the lost taxation in that aspect. This same methods can be applied to foreign aid which is at 11 billion from what I last read, so thats already over £600 per person.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordy
The Greece situation is also linked to the European Union, infact its even linked to the United Kingdom and the mess we are in now. We have come to the rescue of Greece via the EU which means that if Greece defaults on its loans to the UK we will not be getting that money back (which goes into the billions). Greece's collapse was caused mainly by the Euro currency being imposed on the people and economy of Greece - so to say that the European Union isnt our biggest issue is cloud cookoo land.
I never said Labour would do these cuts, Labour got us into this mess in the first place.