According to Yahoo finance there is a few shortcomings with new iPhone 4. I think that iPhone 4 is the best one in his category. Go Apple!!!
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According to Yahoo finance there is a few shortcomings with new iPhone 4. I think that iPhone 4 is the best one in his category. Go Apple!!!
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There are some issues at the moment so I'd probably hold off for awhile until they're fixed but I do prefer the iPhone to Android and the other competitors :)
8 MegaPixel camera and I would have pre-ordered the iPhone 4 str8 away...
If you buy a phone based on the number of mega-pixels you're nothing short of an idiot. Lots of megapixels can often be a good thing, but things with less megapixels can often take much better and more clearer photos.
For example the 3MP camera on the iPhone 3GS takes far better photos than a Samsung's 5MP camera.
Never said I totally buy phones based on MP... I just see no point moving up from 3GS to 4 when they can't even bother atleast trying to get a much better camera, sure they have video calls now, but like the link says, that's EXTREMELY limited too... See no point in moving up tbh :SQuote:
Originally Posted by Jordy
I'm sure I'd be happy with an iPhone 4G. I use a Nexus One and I love that, but I've used and like my friends 3G.
I don't care. I'm still getting one.
*iPhone 4... no 4G in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
Sorry, I have thoughts of the evo on my mind!Quote:
Originally Posted by Recursion
Not your fault really, Apple advertised it as the 4G for some reason at the beginning, if I remember correctly?Quote:
Originally Posted by HotelUser
Swype is awesome, but I'm not sure that's not a reason to not get it.
3GS are only $75 in WalMart, and I'm going Florida very soon ;o
xxxxxxx Yeh... I might just get both tbh, incase one fails, I mean, like what... £45? Not that much for a spare Phone! :D
But yeah, 3GS are now only $75now in WalMart! :O
Really only that much? How long would a contract for that be though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Muct
I still think of Apple products with a generation, it is my fault :PQuote:
Originally Posted by GommeInc
i don't need to click that link to know the reasons not to but one lol
LOOOOOOOOOOL :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Special
Btw, your phone is like the best anyway... :D Saw it on P&Photography... :D
OT: I don't think it'll be as good as th 3GS in all, but yeah...
omg i know with all the lush stickers (k)Quote:
Originally Posted by Muct
Seeing as you were basing your purchase on the Megapixels of the phone, it would suggest you do by your phones based on MP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Muct
They have greatly improved the camera on the iPhone 4, it's gone from 3.2MP on the 3GS to 5MP on the iPhone 4. This allows 720p recording (High definition). It also has an LED Flash and illuminated sensor for taking photos in the dark which are both new additions to the phone (Admittedly they're nothing new on other phones but for the iPhone they are). It also has a camera on the front now too and to be honest, no one even does video calling so I wouldn't let that bother you :P
Not had any of these problems with my iPhone 4 that I got this morning. Most of the problems reported are only slight hitches, e.g. moisture under the screen which will go away within no time. I would advise anyone who is thinking of getting one of these, to get one. They're an amazing piece of technology.
It's a phone.Quote:
Originally Posted by StefanWolves
Ohh slight tinge of jealousy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Recursion
How would he be jealous when he has the phone he wants?Quote:
Originally Posted by StefanWolves
The iphone isnt as good as people make out.. only reason everybody bums it is because of the app store.. any phone can have that if the company was dedicated enough. that really is the only feature whats unique and android is catching onto the idea.
not one bloody thread can be posted in tech without a ***** fit. ;l
meh, it's an alright looking phone but obvs it has it's drawbacks and I think it was slightly rushed to get it released :o
But the fact is they don't have it. Creating a store as large as the Appstore is no easy task, its driven purely by third party developers and until Android overtakes the iPhone/iPad/iPod Touches userbase by a considerable margin developers won't be as attracted to the platform as they are iOS. Its an endless cycle as it were. People buy iPhones because of the Appstores size but Android can't get a store as large until more people start buying Android devices. Look at it from the developers perspective, do they develop for a platform with standardised devices and a large userbase or a platform with devices with a wide variety of different specs (making it harder both to develop and test) and a smaller userbase? We also shouldn't neglect the fact that Android devices are usually cheaper. The sort of people who buy an iPhone can afford to shell out on expensive and flash applications and whilst this is of course true for many Android owners I don't think it's in the same kind of league. Many fairly average phones run android now, the owners of which may not be so interested in the application store.Quote:
Originally Posted by HC0R3H00LIH00P
Just my two cents :)
mhmm, thanks for the link. I'll go over it.
I know what you're saying Jordy and I agree with the statement you've made but I must defend the Sony Ericsson Satio 12.1MP camera because it's nothing short of brilliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordy
@Topic: Yeah, I wouldn't rush in and buy it the first day it came out. Give it a good few weeks for the consumer to lobby Apple with their complaints about technical difficulties with the phone and then give Apple time to fix the errors.
Mines arrived this afternoon and I'm just waiting on the micro sim to be activated. And whoever said "it's a phone", surely a mobile phone is a piece of technology? it's the same as saying a car is an automobile :rolleyes:
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Yeah, I think its a mix of both Megapixels and other factors. Megapixels play a central role but a Camera is only as good as its lense. I can say for sure that the 3GS takes better pictures than my 5MP Phone but equally my old 3.2 Megapixel camera takes better photos than them all. It all depends on the overall specs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Describe
Theres really no need for this. He was completely on topic and simply misunderstood something which lets be honest is quite easy to do considering they advertise it as $75 phone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbie
Quite a lot of simple people buy iPhones too, and the sheer popularity is a contributing factor, so you cannot mark Android as an OS for simple people because it appears on "cheaper" devices, when not all simple people buy cheap products - cars are an example, loads buy these cars with amazing features but never use them :PQuote:
Originally Posted by MrPinkPanther
Android is growing by leaps and bounds, and a lot of App developers create Apps for all types of phones to maximise growth and income, and seeing as it's blatantly obvious Android isn't going anywhere, it's wise of them to do this. Obviously smaller companies may stay with just the one OS, but that's not true for all of them. Heck, Apple saw the fear of these free apps coming about, which is why they created iAds or whatever crappy named feature they brought in recently.
Besides, Android brings in creativity. Alot of these apps and widgets (widgets obviously being a unique feature to the OS and phones), are based around customising the device - home screens and so forth, something you don't really get with iPhones as far as I can tell, and don't forget alot of apps aren't even in the marketplace :P Swype is the main one, and that's in BETA form, and quite a few games are distributed from the developers website.
I like the design of the iPhone 4 :)
I feel quite regretful for buying my N900 too fast ;'(
I knew a new iPhone was coming out in June and yet I still went with my HTC Desire... uhh if that's jelousy then I dunno what is!Quote:
Originally Posted by StefanWolves
Don't worry I'd be jealous
Why would I be jelous? I have a completely open phone I can develop on for free with an awesome OS with an awesome UI over the top of it which a completely open app store where nothing is censored. Ill have the same 720p video recording with 2.2 FroYo and I know ill be able to get every single feature in at least 3 more future OS upgrades, what is there to be jelous of? ;)
Camera problems, reception problems, screen problems, stock problems, what next?!?!
Oh also, I'm not locked down to the terrible resource hog of a program that is iTunes.
Pwnt :P
I agree and as I say its a generalisation but its also true. To follow on with your car analogy a person who buys a Ferarri is more likely to pay for extras than someone who buys a bog standard Vauxhall no? I think the same approach is taken to the Appstore which is exactly why there have been over 5 Billion Downloads since launch and why even now it is still growing faster than the Android market.Quote:
Originally Posted by GommeInc
Some companies will build on multiple OS's that is true but thats exactly the same as Windows and OSX. OSX doesn't have anywhere near the same kind of support as Windows, just like Android doesn't match the Apple appstore. I by no means think Android is a bad operating system but when people come in and slam the iPhone I think it frankly makes them look a bit naive. The iPhone is overpriced, undoubtably, but it can do a great deal more than any Android device because of the kind of support it has. When Android overtakes the iPhone in terms of support I do think it will be the superior platform, at the moment? No way!Quote:
Originally Posted by GommeInc
At first I was sceptical of the iPhones inability to multitask but after a couple of years of working with the OS I've realised it was actually a smart move and I'm not too keen on the iOS4 Multitasking. From a developers perspective it makes memory management much more difficult because it not only gives you less memory to allocate from the heap but the amount of available memory will vary greatly depending on what else the user is running.Quote:
Originally Posted by GommeInc
Nothing is censored? So why do they have a Market policy and why did they pull all tethering apps from the Market just a couple of months ago? Android is censored just like every other market place. Sure its more open than the Apple Appstore, I don't deny that but the things you can do extra are minor and often make the device run worse as I described in multi-tasking above.Quote:
Originally Posted by Recursion
As for your device, you have a device that will suffer from more compatibility issues with applications than any iPhone will. In my opinion one of the worst moves Apple made was in changing the resolution of the iPhone but even then you only have 2 different kinds of devices compared to the hundreds of Android devices.
I don't even have an HTC Desire and the older HTC Hero and I'm not jealous of the iPhone. :SQuote:
Originally Posted by Recursion
I can't believe people are making out us Android people are jealous lmao...
I'm not and I'd be more likely to buy an Android device than I would an iPhone but I still think its inferior, the only reason I would purchase an Android smartphone would be because of the price differences.Quote:
Originally Posted by MattGarner
:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by MrPinkPanther
[IMG]http://skitch.*****.co.uk/tetherproof.png[/IMG]
And how did they get around the different screen resolutions? XML-based UIs, sorted.
EDIT: Oh look...
[img]http://skitch.*****.co.uk/iphonetether.PNG[/img]
They reinstated them later on apart from on the TMobile network in the US. My point is you can't claim its not censored when Google have censored it several times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Recursion
UI's yes but firstly thats not all graphics and secondly all of the specs are drastically different. Lets just take one example shall we? Inputs. Android devices can have a variety of different inputs, nothings standardised. Accelerometers, Touchscreens, Multitouch, Hardware buttons, Gyroscopes, Cameras, Pressure sensors, Infared, Bluetooth just to name a few. Its impossible to develop an application that will work with all of the different kinds of inputs which is why its much easier to utilise the features of the iPhone. If I build an application based on the Accelerometer and multitouch screen I can have the confidence that it will across all devices and look good on all of them, I could never have that with Android unless theres something I've missed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Recursion
Most android devices are accelerometer enabled with touchscreens. Hardware buttons change nothing, and any phone made in the past five years has infared and bluetooth. Games work in a variety of custom resolutions too because of the nature of developing with a dynamically expandable display resolution which the ADK is all about. They've gotten Sense UI working on a QVGA htc vogue. You can't say there's graphically imposed limitations due to the software, because there's not.
Android allows torrent clients, wifi teathering, adult applications, VOIP apps, tunnelling and proxies. If you're seriously going to complain about the restrictions on Android's market don't even touch the iPhone because it's 10000000x worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrPinkPanther
It's not a fantastic solution, ill admit that, but it's up to the developer which Devices they want their app to run on (they can emulate different devices using the Android Emulator in the SDK) and the Market actively filters our Applications that aren't compatible with your device, I guess you could count this as a sort of censorship but nowhere near on a scale like Apple's.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrPinkPanther
And +REP to HotelUser for pretty much suming it all up :P
http://developer.android.com/guide/p...s_support.html
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