♫ Heyya I was Just abit curious on people opinions on old music such as queen, and the beetles, wham!
and all of them? :D Just curios :D
In my opinion I think queens greaat and so are some old songs but others are just dead boring :D ♫
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♫ Heyya I was Just abit curious on people opinions on old music such as queen, and the beetles, wham!
and all of them? :D Just curios :D
In my opinion I think queens greaat and so are some old songs but others are just dead boring :D ♫
Classic rock ftw.
Not just classic rock, but a lot of the oldies. Elvis, The Eagles, The Beatles... The list can go on and on.
i like jumpy old songs :D not rally like slow ones :D
The older the music pretty much the more talent is involved. These days the charts and full of no-talents who rely on the studio to make them sound decent.
Not listened to much suprisingly.
Being part of the Internet generation, new music is always on the output and I've never really wanted to go back.
'old music' is in the eye of the beholder anyway, and all new music is pretty much influenced by older music, mostly because EVERYTHINGS almost been done before, older generations had much more choice in making something fresh, like getting the last chocolate cause all the rest are gone.
It's mostly ignorence on my part for not listening to 'old music'
I do think the charts are changing. Pop music has definately upped it's game in the past year, more artists are deciding that change is good and music is all the better for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Misawa
hate most of it, it's slow and boring
i don't mind old music, i sometimes have a rare listen but i don't hate it. rather old music than charts atm though.
I love old music from the likes of Pink Floyd, Joy Division, Journey, Queen, Genesis, Supertramp, Paul Simon, David Bowie, Madonna and so on and I also love many old classical pieces from Beethoven, Mozart, Bach and Rachmaninoff. I can't put my finger on it, but I feel that older music just has that special something that a lot of todays chart music is very much so lacking, but there are still many amazing music artists around. I could never say that old music is better than new music, as every year there seems to be a band or artist that releases something absolutely phenomenal. Older music is just more influential and revolutionary.
what a ridicuous thing to sayQuote:
Originally Posted by Misawa
i hate it when adults have that general opinion. obviously "old music" is more inspirational today, because who was inspired by it? the people that grew up listening to it that are big in the industry today. so who will the big stars in ten years time be influenced by? the people they grow up listening to today...
also whoever is influenced by someone these days is always slammed for not being original enough. no ones ever happy :l
Well because my parents are old there is old music playing all the time so i can't help but liking some of it ans singing along with my parents. My mum lives Elvis and Tom Jones so there playing in the car alot. My dad likes queen alot so do I, I think they are great!
Well when your charts are ruled by people like Rihanna and her overproduced vocals, Lady Gaga and Kesha's autotune...
lovely bit of generalising going on thereQuote:
Originally Posted by Misawa
im sure if auto tune was around 40 years ago it would have been used a lot then as well. ftr i dont even like rihanna, but she can sing so im not sure when her vocals have been over overproduced? lady gaga only has a few songs where its dominated by auto tune, and if you want to get technical about it find me one singer these days that doesnt use pitch correction on their records to make them sound perfect. like i said it would have been used on "old music" if it existed then. and yeah ke$ha does use auto tune a lot, but she can also sing contrary to popular belief :l
ive been eating and watching tv for about an hour. . .
and meh some are old classics . . but you cant beat the new style :) its a new age :)
Nice dinner? LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by 22andy223
Erm I think the music has changed over the years and old people like my great great grandma will obvly have a different taste to what i do, you wont see her dancing to flo rider - get low? will you LOL I think everyone has different opinions i just want to know what everyones is :D
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Originally Posted by Misawa
I don't listen to old music at all. Nothing about it interests me
Edited by Shar, (Trialist Forum Moderator) Please do not be rude, thanks.
i luled. i like how you imply that the charts used to have talent as opposed to now. the charts have always been filled by bandwagon riding talentless "artists," even back in the 60's and 70's. you're only looking back on previous decades and seeing the people we remember rather the ones we dont (because they were bad.) its easy to look at todays charts and say "oh these artists suck" but look at any chart from any random week in the 60's and 70's and you probably haven't even heard of the large majority of them. oh, and nothing will ever beat the horrendous decade that was the 80's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Misawa
the 70's were ruled by the guys who wrote "afternoon delight" and the 80's were ruled by, well i dont even have to tell you lol look at any pop artist and try not to puke on your keyboard. and dont say "oh but what bout led zeppelin?!?!?" -- they were critically panned in their day. we may think of them as classic now but a lot of the music press back then thought they were awful, while the "afternoon delight" guys won a grammy. go figure. the charts, and grammys for that matter, dont represent the music of the times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Misawa
keep in mind that in the past decade, there has been far more music released than in the previous 4 decades combined, not including things from the internet. dig a little deeper into your music. the difference between music today and music "back then" is that music today is exponentially more diversified, thus theres almost no common consensus. in the 70's there was a huge social division between fans of the who and fans of led zeppelin. today this division seems comical, seeing as how those bands sound largely the same.
anyway, i liked classic rock etc when i was growing up cause its what my dad listened to, but since id say high school ive listened to almost only new music, as there is more than enough to keep me occupied. although i do like some pre-90's stuff such as sonic youth, velvet underground, joy division, r.e.m., the pixies, etc.
It's boring as hell for the vast majority and I don't care if they were more technically able than current musicians (which I don't believe to be the case anyway) if it sounds crap I don't want to listen to it. Furthermore:
"When I'm ridin' round the world
and I'm doin' this and I'm signing that
and I'm tryin' to make some girl
who tells me baby better come back later next week
'cause you see I'm on losing streak.
I can't get no, oh no no no.
Hey hey hey, that's what I say"
Hardly takes more talent and vision to write than
"Visualising the realism of life and actuality -
**** who's the baddest a person's status depends on salary.
And my mentality is money orientated,
I'm destined to live the dream for all my peeps who never made it
'cause yeah, we were beginners in the hood as five percenters
But something must of got in us cause all of us turned to sinners,
Now some, resting in peace and some are sitting in San Quentin,
Others such as myself are trying to carry on tradition."
The topic in question is rather vague though, like asking 'do you like music??'
All music takes talent.. I do love classic rock but new now-a-day music is getting really good.
If the music wasnt good, then why would it still be well known? :D LOLOL
I think all types of music all have a good thing about it, good be the lyrics, could be the tune or anything tbh :P
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Originally Posted by FlyingJesus
the first verse of "life's a *****" is arguably the greatest in all of hip hop, no lie.
what really bugs me about people who think older music is better is that they are completely blind of modern music history. every generation looks down upon the next generation and thinks its talentless garbage. hip hop enthusiasts are looked down upon by rock enthusiasts, rock enthusiasts were looked down upon by jazz enthusiasts, jazz enthusiasts were looked down upon by classical enthusiasts, etc. when you realize that the gap comes from generational differences rather than actual musical merit, thats when you can have an open mind about new artists.
i think you summed that up perfectlyQuote:
Originally Posted by RedStratocas
it also works with genres, pisses me off when people say that one genre requires no talent to write music for. like, when people say you need no talent to write rap or pop music - a lot of the time true, but not always. you cant generalise music like that
I sort of agree with rap. Like I don't listen to it, but I have respect for the people who write and perform it and whatnot. Pop however, is different. I know I'm generalising, but I have little-to-no respect for 'artists' who have songs written for them, have all the music arranged for them, and then have their vocals autotuned because they can rarely sing with it. Just irks me that that's the music getting popular, when their are a **** ton more talented performers across all other genres that work a thousands times harder, but don't get the success they deserveQuote:
Originally Posted by Haaaaarry
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by samsaBEAR
Far be it for me to say that I listen to anything remotely close to rap, but that doesn't mean I don't respect the work that gets put into it.
I'm more than certain if you took the time to dissect a song, there's a powerful meaning behind it.
Abolutly love old music i love it better than new music as you may be able to tell on my shows LOL
thats exactly what im talking about, thats really generalising a whole genre. not everyone in pop music is manufactured and cant write songs or cant sing. obviously a lot of it is no doubt, and i agree and have no respect whatsoever for people like that but you cant say you hate all pop musicians, because not all of them are like that?Quote:
Originally Posted by samsaBEAR
While most pop artists still don't write their own songs, in the recent years we have been getting more performers who can sing live.
Which is possibly the only thing we can thank the X Factor for, we know the people who come out on top CAN sing live.
There's still the odd act that can't sing live though, blame late 90s for the presumption that pop stars can't sing.
I won't stop denying that Lady GaGa has upped pop's game.
While most pop artists still don't write their own songs, in the recent years we have been getting more performers who can sing live.
Which is possibly the only thing we can thank the X Factor for, we know the people who come out on top CAN sing live.
There's still the odd act that can't sing live though, blame late 90s for the presumption that pop stars can't sing.
I won't stop denying that Lady GaGa has upped pop's game.
I just don't like pop musicQuote:
Originally Posted by Haaaaarry
Is it just me who gets annoyed when people say they hate "old music" - define old music please?
The problem is old music isn't a genre - I hardy listen to them now but really was into Franz Ferdinand when they first came out - and it seemed to change brit rock - but that was quite a few years back - so is that classed as old?
I love all types of music - and the best thing is to judge it not by its age, but simply by how it sounds. It does annoy me when stuff is all edited to make it sound way better than it actually is - but then if it sounds good in the end, I suppose its kind of worth it.
Someone mentioned X Factor and how we know they can sing live - Is that fully true? I hear they use autotune a lot on the show and other stuff, but I wouldn't know. My biggest problem with X Factor is how it simply creates bands and artists that end up getting other people to write their own stuff, create the sounds and so on.
I mentioned ages ago my love for Tom Waits - i've only got a few of his albums but I really loved that he's slowly tried to experiment with music - i read that he tried to use everyday items as instruments - I wish there where more people who tried to do more with music instead of just reading someone's lyrics and then letting someone else produce a track/beat etc.
unless you mean just musically, she definitely has. the clothing, videos, image, performance, she pushes the boundaries and whether you think the way she does that is good or not you cant deny she does. but if you do just mean musically then fair enough its down to opinion. but no pop singer has made the kind of instant impact that she has done in a long time, factQuote:
Originally Posted by Plebings
i know, but what im saying is its ignorant to say you dont like it because "all pop musicians are talentless people."Quote:
Originally Posted by samsaBEAR
The Beatles are sexy. End of story.
Music that is old. Doesn't take a rocket scientistQuote:
Originally Posted by peteyt
I prefer older music. I've been quite into thrash metal the last few years, and love Metallica in particular, but before that I was listening to The Who, and stuff. Don't get me wrong I love almost all music, and listen to all sorts, occasionally listen to Mozart from time to time aswell, just to relax and get lost in it.
I don't think you can get any more obvious than what has been provided.Quote:
Originally Posted by peteyt
Old music: Anything earlier than the music between the 80s to present day. Hell, even the 80s can be viewed as old to some people.
pre-spice girls
:D
Thats the problem though - sometimes I may hear a track and like it its like a few months old or something and someone goes thats old now.Quote:
Originally Posted by KyoraStryker
Everyone has a different idea of what is old.
i hate to be the doucher to argue but i honestly don't think she's pushed any boundaries at all. image is always progressing through time, really her appearances and performances seem like just a logical extension of what has already been in the spectrum of pop, if that makes sense. i guess i cant really think of another artist that dresses like her per se, but i dont see her image as completely far-fetched from where it was before, and given the fact that every new female pop artist attempts to make themselves a groundbreaking if not concept-driven image, i dont really see what separates her from any other female pop star.Quote:
Originally Posted by Haaaaarry
when i think of musicians who have been able to infiltrate and push the boundaries of pop, i think of people like kate bush or david bowie.
its all context. pop songs age exponentially. you play a random track from a moderately successful artist that came out in say, 2003, and no one will really immediately comment on its age because in the context of music that isn't well-known, time is not what matters most. the song is being played because it is good, not because it is necessarily relevant. however if you were to play "i gotta feeling" by the black eyed peas today, people would groan about how old it is even though its only about a year. cause in the pop spectrum, whats considered "new" changes fast. but in the context of this thread, when i think of "old" songs, its either usually a) songs that came out before i was born or b) songs that came out while i was alive but didn't have the capacity to enjoy when it did.Quote:
Originally Posted by peteyt
Good reply - it just annoys me when people say i like new music not old music - define new music - cos i hate most rap stuff but i like new stuff coming out from other generes.
People should love the sound regardless of the age.
Oh Sam I love it when you occasionally post, I always have so much fun reading your posts hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by RedStratocas
New music is music that is new, good lord you're not very quick are youQuote:
Originally Posted by peteyt