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09-10-2010, 10:54 AM
Tintinnabulate

Purely Ideas

All other threads have not turned into argument and simply flaming, lets leave all that behind and use this thread to purely suggest new ideas on how to make this forum better.

Please do not argue in this thread. Use it to suggest new ideas and take each idea and make them better one by one. Hopefully management will see this thread, and start implementing good ones.

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Basically whats happened is, Habbox offered something unique before and thats why it was popular. Now as Habbo is pushing fansites away, its getting harder to offer something unique so whats needed is a good community.

Here are just my suggestions. Feel free to say why they are crap or good and suggest new ones:

1) Mass unban. That's one way to bring back quite a few regulars, even if they were idiots or broke the rules, give them all a second chance. It will increase posting and activity, that's guaranteed. You might hate it, but hey, an easy way to do is put all unbanned users in a temporary usergroup. If they get 3 infractions in 6 months, it clear they are still morons and should be perm'd. But hey its one way to increase posting.

2) Tell the moderators to use common sense. If they do not have it, get rid of them. I cannot believe some people were picked as trialist moderators :S.

3) Relax the rules. Two main ones are:

3.1) You cannot post links to your site in Spam :S. Its spam, so seriously wth? The excuse is that the forum was being spammed with links, however when I asked for examples, they couldn't provide none and admitted its not the real reason. If someone posts the same link more than 2 times in a week in Spam, them send them a PM. The second excuse was there is a Show off your site forum. Well there is a education forum yet people post HELP ME WITH MY HW in there and thats not moved. Its silly excuses.

3.2) A8. Leave moderating to the moderators. Seriously what? If someone in the Habbo section (main part of the forum for new users) reposts a news which has already been posted and a different new user tells them "heyy :) its already been posted here ;) [link]" they will be warned. Its pretty silly. Warning someone for being helpful. Obviously if someone else just replies with the same thing again in that thread, it should be classed as pointless posting.

4) A total re-vamp of the forum structure. Get rid of stupid things like the "Welcome Committee". Habbox has done fine without it for 6 years and so have CHF. It will get rid of two forums and will only help speed up the forum.
What you need to do is make index.php smaller. Why? Quite simple really. Right now its so organised with forums for everything, it means that they all look empty. But if you cut down on a lot of them, merged a lot of them, it will still get the same number of threads but it will look more active and prompt people to post more. Looking at a empty forum is just off-putting.
So basically (just an example) 20 forums with 100 threads looks less active than 10 forums with 100 threads.

5) Remove crap from the top for new members.

6) What we need is on Habbo to try and have atleast one games room on top with [Habbox.com] at the front of the room name. Now new users will constantly see it there and will come to the site. I just loaded Habbo now and I saw a HFFM and TryHabbo room on top. Not a single Habbox room.

7) I pointed out that the Events calendar on Habbox is never updated 1-2 weeks ago. Guess what? Its still empty. STOP BLOODY RELYING ON AUTOMATIC SCRIPTS. TYPE IT OUT YOURSELF AND MAKE THEM COOL AND INTERESTING. It only takes a few minutes and if the manager cannot do it, get a new one or hire someone to do it. How do you expect the site to grow when people come and see no events? Its just laziness.

I will surely think of more but its early and I cannot think of any atm. Its just starters and please feel free to say why any of all of them are crap of good. Hopefully management will actually look at what the majority want instead of what they think is right.
09-10-2010, 11:09 AM
Jamesy

I'll try to answer the ones more aimed at the forum, as I'm afraid I do not know what other habbo related departments are up to.

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Originally Posted by Saurav

Here are just my suggestions. Feel free to say why they are crap or good and suggest new ones:

1) Mass unban. That's one way to bring back quite a few regulars, even if they were idiots or broke the rules, give them all a second chance. It will increase posting and activity, that's guaranteed. You might hate it, but hey, an easy way to do is put all unbanned users in a temporary usergroup. If they get 3 infractions in 6 months, it clear they are still morons and should be perm'd. But hey its one way to increase posting.

An amnesty could work, although it would need to be decided by General Management so I will wait for them to reply.

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Originally Posted by Saurav

2) Tell the moderators to use common sense. If they do not have it, get rid of them. I cannot believe some people were picked as trialist moderators :S.

Both Garion and myself do encourage common sense, as a trialist moderator it's a very steep learning curve so of course they will make mistakes. It's something you have to learn as a moderator to take your own initiative.

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Originally Posted by Saurav

3) Relax the rules. Two main ones are:

3.1) You cannot post links to your site in Spam :S. Its spam, so seriously wth? The excuse is that the forum was being spammed with links, however when I asked for examples, they couldn't provide none and admitted its not the real reason. If someone posts the same link more than 2 times in a week in Spam, them send them a PM. The second excuse was there is a Show off your site forum. Well there is a education forum yet people post HELP ME WITH MY HW in there and thats not moved. Its silly excuses.

3.2) A8. Leave moderating to the moderators. Seriously what? If someone in the Habbo section (main part of the forum for new users) reposts a news which has already been posted and a different new user tells them "heyy :) its already been posted here ;) [link]" they will be warned. Its pretty silly. Warning someone for being helpful. Obviously if someone else just replies with the same thing again in that thread, it should be classed as pointless posting.

I believe this came up in the other thread about forum specific rules. I do agree and I find some harsh - I will set aside some time to go through them with the moderators of the section and decide which ones are worth ditching / keeping.

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Originally Posted by Saurav

4) A total re-vamp of the forum structure. Get rid of stupid things like the "Welcome Committee". Habbox has done fine without it for 6 years and so have CHF. It will get rid of two forums and will only help speed up the forum.
What you need to do is make index.php smaller. Why? Quite simple really. Right now its so organised with forums for everything, it means that they all look empty. But if you cut down on a lot of them, merged a lot of them, it will still get the same number of threads but it will look more active and prompt people to post more. Looking at a empty forum is just off-putting.
So basically (just an example) 20 forums with 100 threads looks less active than 10 forums with 100 threads.

I think after the last big forum merging we now have a lot smaller index. I also think that merging too much will kill of discussion in some forums, for example putting jokes into spam - that simply didn't work at all. The WC wars have given me a lot to think about (not just members against it, there are other factors I've noticed that have concerned me.)

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Originally Posted by Saurav

5) Remove crap from the top for new members.

If you mean notices then I admit I tend to forget to clear them, although it's not always I notice them get made by other people :P.

Thanks for your feedback. It's given me a lot of food for thought.
09-10-2010, 11:22 AM
Nixt

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Originally Posted by Saurav

1) Mass unban. That's one way to bring back quite a few regulars, even if they were idiots or broke the rules, give them all a second chance. It will increase posting and activity, that's guaranteed. You might hate it, but hey, an easy way to do is put all unbanned users in a temporary usergroup. If they get 3 infractions in 6 months, it clear they are still morons and should be perm'd. But hey its one way to increase posting.

Not something I am keen on. Certainly not unbanning every member who have ever broken the rules, that would seriously undermine the rules and the foundation on which we ensure a stable community at Habbox. However, watch this space. There is something I mooted to Jamesy last night which, although not a complete removal of all bans, will certainly make people happy. I'm not going to go into too much detail on the matter yet for two key reasons - 1) It will need approval from the highest levels, and as such may well get rejected, in which case I don't want to outright say something so big will happen for it to get rejected (thus pissing everyone off) and 2) it's in the very early stages and needs a lot of expansion before I go about talking about it.

But put it this way - a lot of people will be happy and it will benefit a lot of people. As well as creating an awful lot of work for us. Give me a day or two and you may well see a lot of stuff happening that surprises you.

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2) Tell the moderators to use common sense. If they do not have it, get rid of them. I cannot believe some people were picked as trialist moderators :S.

Your personal vendettas against individuals are irrelevant. However I do agree that Moderator's ability to evaluate individual circumstances and act upon that needs looking at, we need to make sure that they are not becoming robotic and following a perfectly set procedure each and every time. James has already communicated this to the Moderators (today) and we will continue to hone this skill to ensure it starts happening.

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3) Relax the rules. Two main ones are:

3.1) You cannot post links to your site in Spam :S. Its spam, so seriously wth? The excuse is that the forum was being spammed with links, however when I asked for examples, they couldn't provide none and admitted its not the real reason. If someone posts the same link more than 2 times in a week in Spam, them send them a PM. The second excuse was there is a Show off your site forum. Well there is a education forum yet people post HELP ME WITH MY HW in there and thats not moved. Its silly excuses.

From the other thread: Saurav has also mentioned the advertising rule in the spam forum. Essentially disallowing you from posting such things as "HI I'M DJING ON SOMEHABBORADIO.COM TUNE IN". I don't think it is so much a problem with the rules, rather a problem with the way it is applied. Shameless advertising should be dealt with but not necessarily casual linking.

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3.2) A8. Leave moderating to the moderators. Seriously what? If someone in the Habbo section (main part of the forum for new users) reposts a news which has already been posted and a different new user tells them "heyy :) its already been posted here ;) [link]" they will be warned. Its pretty silly. Warning someone for being helpful. Obviously if someone else just replies with the same thing again in that thread, it should be classed as pointless posting.

From the other thread: Regarding the "leaving moderating to the moderators" rule - this seems to be applied too harshly in some situations, for example when someone says "already posted - link here" in Habbo News and Rumours. I think this rule should only be applied where someone interrupts a discussion by say, quoting a rule breaking post and doing the whole "TUT! YOU WERE RUDE TO ANOTHER MEMBER". Posting "oh this has already been posted - xx" is essentially a way of helping members and maybe should not be penalised. However I do think, if a member were to post "already posted - xx" and someone replies "yeah it's already been posted", the second poster should be approached for pointless posting. What do you guys think?

Regarding other rules I said:

The pointless posting rule could also be reviewed (and is being reviewed). The first thing James has looked at is the way in which the "one word" rule is applied and we will be altering this slightly to make it more fair. Essentially we will be stopping people posting threads that can only really justify one word answers rather than targeting people who reply to them.

I think the key problem is actually that some of the forum specific rules have become too draconian, rather than the main body of rules. Notable examples are:

Graphics rule 1 - I hate the way members aren't allowed to say "I really like this, it's awesome +rep!" I feel this rule is far too harsh. Members should be penalised for saying "Good alt" but not for clearly and fairly expressing their appreciation for an alt or graphic. I do think they should be penalised however, if they just say "this is really bad". It's unfair and rude to outrageously criticise without backing that up (some people in feedback should perhaps take note of this point!) but I don't think it's wrong to say you like something, as long as you say it in earnest!

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4) A total re-vamp of the forum structure. Get rid of stupid things like the "Welcome Committee". Habbox has done fine without it for 6 years and so have CHF. It will get rid of two forums and will only help speed up the forum.
What you need to do is make index.php smaller. Why? Quite simple really. Right now its so organised with forums for everything, it means that they all look empty. But if you cut down on a lot of them, merged a lot of them, it will still get the same number of threads but it will look more active and prompt people to post more. Looking at a empty forum is just off-putting.
So basically (just an example) 20 forums with 100 threads looks less active than 10 forums with 100 threads.

In light of recent feedback and obvious complete lack of faith (the fabled quote) on the part of almost everyone on the forum, it seems likely the Welcome Committee will be removed and the roles of Committee members stressed as part of a Moderator's mandate.

Regarding the index, it was repeatedly cut down under Oli's Management and I think currently works quite well. Do you have any suggestions on what forums we could cut down? Because I, personally, can't think of anything but I am sure as hell ready to listen to member suggestions on the matter.

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5) Remove crap from the top for new members.

See above.

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6) What we need is on Habbo to try and have atleast one games room on top with [Habbox.com] at the front of the room name. Now new users will constantly see it there and will come to the site. I just loaded Habbo now and I saw a HFFM and TryHabbo room on top. Not a single Habbox room.

We are currently in the process of a "Habbox Central" project, where there are a number of Habbox rooms linked to a centrally connecting room. We aim to popularise this central room and the rooms linking from it, so we have a number of rooms regularly popular on the client. I do think the community departments need to step up at this time of Habbox recession, as it were, and I am quite keen to hold another "Habbox Promotion Week" similar to one held recently that involved a lot of giveaways and events.

Thanks, Saurav, this is the kind of feedback I like to see.
09-10-2010, 11:24 AM
ihatehash

I personally think that the main reason habboxforum has died is because of habbox.com. It doesn't have anything that will make the visitors want to stay and and that is the site that people will first go to. It's laggy, appears quite boring and doesn't look like a gold official site. also with the habbox site there is not much about the forum. The forum is what will make people stay and come back daily, it needs to be advertised more so that people make an effort to sign up.
09-10-2010, 11:26 AM
Tintinnabulate

I had added a Point 7 btw ;)
09-10-2010, 11:31 AM
Samantha

I feel there should be a mass unban, not just so I can get my old account back, but it would bring back some regulars, and say like the forum started afresh.
Also, some people may not stay on the forum because they are on the DNHL, like myself, I have started posting again, but I left for a short period of time because of that.

I'll just be picking on random points now.

The Events calendar.
Sorry but it needs updating, Roxy said Char ued to do it. What annoyed me is Char resigned, so you can't rely on that excuse. I want to know why there is no assistant event manager to do it? Does it mean Char can return whenever she pleases until the slot is filled?
I just think, that the event calendar, could be updated regularily, by the AGM Community which is yet again Roxy. I agree, it should be typed out if you're just gonna sit on your arse and let a script do it.
Get it sorted. I was planning to come to more events, looked at the calendar, saw none so now I just cba to.
And there isn't enough events being done.
Some people may have seen how many were done in HxSS, and thought, oh that must be the daily routine, an event nearly every hour. But then, they notice that, that doesn't happen.
What I think also is, there is too many events in big events, HxEE 2008, I only started in the 2nd week of that but ended up coming 2nd overall, there were only like 3 events per day and I loved it. Maybe this would be better?
Also, some event announcements in the CNB need sorting out. People overseas from the UK have a lack of grammar and punctuation. It would make me feel the event would be sloppy too.

Leave moderating to the moderators. I never get this rule, surely if you just tell someone that it's in the wrong forum or it's a duplicate thread they shouldn't be punished for it.

Some moderators lack common sense.
I remember posting a thread about PMT. I got one reply from Pyroka, saying something about Habbo and what he does when he's stressed.
Please tell me how was that classed as pointless posting? It wasn't a pointless post, he may have said it in sarcasm, but it answered the question.

The Welcome Commitee is unneeded imo. If you looked, it said you can be selected for the comittee through recomendation or something. I saw that no one at all was recommened regardless of how many times they posted.
I agree, that we have got members before, without the welcome committee.
09-10-2010, 11:38 AM
Nixt

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Originally Posted by Saurav

7) I pointed out that the Events calendar on Habbox is never updated 1-2 weeks ago. Guess what? Its still empty. STOP BLOODY RELYING ON AUTOMATIC SCRIPTS. TYPE IT OUT YOURSELF AND MAKE THEM COOL AND INTERESTING. It only takes a few minutes and if the manager cannot do it, get a new one or hire someone to do it. How do you expect the site to grow when people come and see no events? Its just laziness.

Strictly speaking the events department isn't in my jurisdiction but nevertheless I agree that we need to improve the events on Habbo. The reason the calendar is so sparse is actually to do with the fact events haven't been booked rather than a failure to update the calendar. I am sure this will improve.

However I do agree that a reliance on automated scripts is becoming too prevalent and we need to try and make pages more attractive. It is something I highlighted in a long thread I created for AGMs only. The difficulty is of course, it is very difficult to make a page look sexy on a rather outdated content system and layout although I do think it's something we should try until we get V6. At the end of the day we've been waiting for ages for it and we haven't got it, so rather than falling back on that excuse when it comes to site content we need to endeavour to make the site look as best as possible until such time as the new site comes along. The longer we leave it the more dire the situation is going to become.

Sorry, I'd quoted your post before you edited it.
09-10-2010, 11:52 AM
Calvin

I personally think management could try and run it without Jin a bit, I know it's his fansite but yeah. Management always have to get permission off Jin which takes weeks, possibly months (using V6 as a prime example, supposed to be done by summer which now means in every thread about the site theres just going to be "in v6").
09-10-2010, 11:56 AM
Samantha

Yeah I don't get why you always have to play by the book by consulting Jin.
I'm sure you're more active, the forum manger and/or general manager should have the final say if Jin isn't here.
09-10-2010, 12:03 PM
Nixt

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Originally Posted by Skizzling

I personally think management could try and run it without Jin a bit, I know it's his fansite but yeah. Management always have to get permission off Jin which takes weeks, possibly months (using V6 as a prime example, supposed to be done by summer which now means in every thread about the site theres just going to be "in v6").

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Originally Posted by David Jason

Yeah I don't get why you always have to play by the book by consulting Jin.
I'm sure you're more active, the forum manger and/or general manager should have the final say if Jin isn't here.

Quite, but the decision to devolve that power rests solely with Jin.
09-10-2010, 12:11 PM
Jamesy

Just to build on point 4 - the Welcome Committee has now been fully dissolved.
09-10-2010, 12:14 PM
Alex3213

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Originally Posted by David Jason

Yeah I don't get why you always have to play by the book by consulting Jin.
I'm sure you're more active, the forum manger and/or general manager should have the final say if Jin isn't here.

Remember Jin co-owns the site, he is still on often and if he doesn't like it, he shouldn't have to have it especially if its making the site slow (DIG DIG).

Right I'll skim through these points, cba to quote.

1) Nah, obviously banned for a reason. Maybe some could be unbanned but not all of them as they've obviously done somethign to be banned.

2) I think there are situations where the Moderator has been wrong but there are times where this happens as we're human, not supernatural. We get things wrong and that is that. Majority of the time Moderators deal with it because they use their instinct, not because they want to get more logs.

3.1) Don't like the rule, just let them know afterwards if they shouldn't be doing things like that.

3.2) Agreed with this one, they try to help out by letting them know, not trying to be a moderator and I think it's harsh if they get told off for it.

4) I think the forum is cut down quite well to be honest, think it's a relatively decent size.

5) Ye

6) Agreed. There's lots of rooms so why not use them?! You may or may have not noticed there's a teleport in HxHD now. I think it would be good for that to be popular, I've tried quite a lot in the last couple of days. What is upsetting is that it's called Central Park (not sure if Roxy has changed it yet) but [Habbox.com] Central Park is one step in the right direction for advertisment!

7) Ye, agreed. There's not a script at the moment, so you continue as normal. You can make it work! I think relying on someone else or waiting for someone to be able to do it (e.g. a new assistant) or waiting for the script is rather lazy and should just continue until/if it arrives. Spruce it up! Just so I don't get a needle in me, the Habbox Competitions page is updated, yes. ;)

As I said in the other thread, I'm tired so I may be speaking utter rubbish!
09-10-2010, 12:20 PM
Tintinnabulate

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nixt

Strictly speaking the events department isn't in my jurisdiction but nevertheless I agree that we need to improve the events on Habbo. The reason the calendar is so sparse is actually to do with the fact events haven't been booked rather than a failure to update the calendar. I am sure this will improve.

However I do agree that a reliance on automated scripts is becoming too prevalent and we need to try and make pages more attractive. It is something I highlighted in a long thread I created for AGMs only. The difficulty is of course, it is very difficult to make a page look sexy on a rather outdated content system and layout although I do think it's something we should try until we get V6. At the end of the day we've been waiting for ages for it and we haven't got it, so rather than falling back on that excuse when it comes to site content we need to endeavour to make the site look as best as possible until such time as the new site comes along. The longer we leave it the more dire the situation is going to become.

Sorry, I'd quoted your post before you edited it.

Well thats a failure on the Events manager and staff part. If the Events Manager cannot organise events, get a new manager.

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Originally Posted by Jamesy

Just to build on point 4 - the Welcome Committee has now been fully dissolved.

Should I expect an apology for the ridiculous reason I was removed from the Committee (suggesting it should be closed) and now that you have actually closed it - exactly what my thread was about.
09-10-2010, 12:24 PM
Alex3213

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Originally Posted by Saurav

Well thats a failure on the Events manager and staff part. If the Events Manager cannot organise events, get a new manager.

I'd just like to say that I think Roxy can manage that, but it's not her fault if her staff won't do events often (I know some of you do the minimum but there are staff I haven't seen do an event in ages). Think Roxy should just start doing the calendar really and required events limit needs to go up (you may lose more staff but at least you'll know which ones care and which ones don't). Ones who don't work should be out of the dept. straight away, ones who do should stay. Keep it rolling so you've got a good department because I know if I was the Manager I wouldn't mind opening applications quite often because I'd rather have a good, small team rather than 90% of the team doing a small amount of events.
09-10-2010, 12:26 PM
Jamesy

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Originally Posted by Saurav

Should I expect an apology for the ridiculous reason I was removed from the Committee (suggesting it should be closed) and now that you have actually closed it - exactly what my thread was about.

I will apologise for getting heavy handed in your thread, however as Garion was the one who removed you - it's up to him.
09-10-2010, 12:26 PM
Tintinnabulate

@ Alex, yep I noticed the Comps page was updated :). Its good to see that some departments actually act on feedback.
09-10-2010, 12:30 PM
Samantha

What Roxy could also do is activity threads, make sure staff are actually active.
As an EO you should be on the forum every day posting tbh. So she could give a deadline of about 3 days, if you don't reply, you could receive a warning (If you're away it would be different.)

Also, I remember it being 3 events at least per month when I was there.
Overall, the only people I have seen doing events are some overseas trialists, Dilusionate and Mathew. I honestly can say that. I want to see others doing them more.

@Alex, competition winners thread is regularily updated, but the winners aren't. I won you're graphics competition in September, and I'm already using the VIP from it, and I have received the REP, but not all comps are notified in the winners thread. :)
09-10-2010, 12:36 PM
Alex3213

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Originally Posted by David Jason

What Roxy could also do is activity threads, make sure staff are actually active.
As an EO you should be on the forum every day posting tbh. So she could give a deadline of about 3 days, if you don't reply, you could receive a warning (If you're away it would be different.)

Also, I remember it being 3 events at least per month when I was there.
Overall, the only people I have seen doing events are some overseas trialists, Dilusionate and Mathew. I honestly can say that. I want to see others doing them more.

@Alex, competition winners thread is regularily updated, but the winners aren't. I won you're graphics competition in September, and I'm already using the VIP from it, and I have received the REP, but not all comps are notified in the winners thread. :)

The staff are on, some just don't do events.

Yeah it was 3 but now it's 4 and sorry but I agree (although there aren't many staff atm). I dunno who's in the dept either because I've just found out that David resigned. When was this? Was there announcment? I know there wasn't an announcment for when I resigned and it is hard to keep track off.

@September: Although I don't like saying excuses, this was cos Mike's gone to Uni and he just wanted it done before the end of the month I guess. I can assure you October will be different as I am doing 6th and 7th winners today, as our T&Cs state, we will try to pick winners and all that jazz within 72 hours. :) Apologies for this! :)
09-10-2010, 12:58 PM
Martin

I think the minimum of 4 events per month is a little low really. Maybe it could be upped slightly? At a time when a department has less staff members- it's crucial to work as a team to ensure the same output is still maintained etc. I went from having 12 news reporters to 5 last week, and it was hard but we all chipped in to ensure the articles required were still covered and the sections updated the best we can. We've just had an influx of trialists, and so this shouldn't be a problem anymore and things will be much easier to keep frequently updated. I know news/events are completely different, but I don't think running even 4 events per month is hard at all. It's only one hour per week really, and compared to my reporters having to write at least 3 detailed articles per week and help with other projects etc.

If there is an issue with prizes, perhaps some of the habbox funds somewhere along the line could be used more for events. I know it would be hard to organise, but I just think it would be great if some of the donations we get could be put to more use in events and promotion on habbo.

I'm struggling to think at the moment, and it may not be a good idea afterall, however it would be great to see lots and lots of events on Habbo, and I think it's great that events applications are now open and hopefully the team will get nice and full. Since it's a department which really can advertise the site/forum well and get newer habbo members interested.
09-10-2010, 01:48 PM
Tintinnabulate

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Originally Posted by Jamesy

I will apologise for getting heavy handed in your thread, however as Garion was the one who removed you - it's up to him.

Ok thanks. I will wait for Garion to reply.
09-10-2010, 02:24 PM
Samantha

I remember I wanted to d a lot of events in February 2010 and began doin it I did about 7, then got fired. I jut think 4 is also too small.
I also think there should be more than 1 senior event organiser, suggesting that normal event organisers and senior ones do different amounts if you get me.
Like normal could be 5, senior could be 7. Just thinking aloud out here.

And I don't mind if the competitions aren't updated regularily, maybe you could update the thread once a week if the competitions last 5 days each? I'm sure you could spare an hour at the weekend just to ensure that or something :).

However, I don't think it's Roxy's fault at all. I just think she should have help though, at least now that everyone is back in school etc.
I know events would be sparse, but I know if I was on the team, I would be doing at least 2 per week just to keep he department alive, trying to get more people to join.

What I notice mostly, is that we're suppose to be getting more members, but sometimes, there is more guests online than members which really annoys me. Can't you make something like just the announcement threads or Habbox threads visible to a guest?
09-10-2010, 02:45 PM
Alex3213

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Originally Posted by David Jason

I remember I wanted to d a lot of events in February 2010 and began doin it I did about 7, then got fired. I jut think 4 is also too small.
I also think there should be more than 1 senior event organiser, suggesting that normal event organisers and senior ones do different amounts if you get me.
Like normal could be 5, senior could be 7. Just thinking aloud out here.

And I don't mind if the competitions aren't updated regularily, maybe you could update the thread once a week if the competitions last 5 days each? I'm sure you could spare an hour at the weekend just to ensure that or something :).

However, I don't think it's Roxy's fault at all. I just think she should have help though, at least now that everyone is back in school etc.
I know events would be sparse, but I know if I was on the team, I would be doing at least 2 per week just to keep he department alive, trying to get more people to join.

What I notice mostly, is that we're suppose to be getting more members, but sometimes, there is more guests online than members which really annoys me. Can't you make something like just the announcement threads or Habbox threads visible to a guest?

Disagreed. With senior you have slightly more responsibilities, like the planning of events and also editing the approval calendar so if anything there's should be lower.

6 a month at the minimum I think would be a better amount.

And sam, we normally update the thread when we've PMd them or the other way round! :D

P.S. no because restrictions always put me off going on a forum
09-10-2010, 03:07 PM
Samantha

Well I don't know how the system works so like I said thinking aloud :D
And agreed. That's one thing I hate resitrictions. etc.

Also, with events sometimes the announcements are a little late.
I'm sure Catzsy resigned a while back, surely the announcement could have been made sooner.
09-10-2010, 03:08 PM
Alex3213

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Originally Posted by David Jason

Well I don't know how the system works so like I said thinking aloud :D
And agreed. That's one thing I hate resitrictions. etc.

Also, with events sometimes the announcements are a little late.
I'm sure Catzsy resigned a while back, surely the announcement could have been made sooner.

Then why did you suggest restricting announcments? :P If you do that it makes it sound like Habbox has no activities and personally that is one less reason why I would sign up.

Latter I agree with, I actually resigned around 2 weeks ago I think now, maybe a bit more but I still haven't had an announcment.
09-10-2010, 03:12 PM
Mathew

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Originally Posted by David Jason

What Roxy could also do is activity threads, make sure staff are actually active.
As an EO you should be on the forum every day posting tbh. So she could give a deadline of about 3 days, if you don't reply, you could receive a warning (If you're away it would be different.)

Activity is usually checked by the time it takes for an Events Organiser to reply to the [Read] threads. It's assumed that if you don't reply to that thread, you're inactive (and in which case, you recieve a warning); which is fair enough imo. There has been a [Read] thread posted today actually, so it will be interesting to see how many people actually reply :) The problem is that people applying, getting the position and then for whatever reason... not doing events. Hey, Habbox has been having problems since the end of HxSS across the board... but events in particular is coming to stand still.

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Originally Posted by David Jason

Also, I remember it being 3 events at least per month when I was there.
Overall, the only people I have seen doing events are some overseas trialists, Dilusionate and Mathew. I honestly can say that. I want to see others doing them more.

It's now 4 events per month which could probably be raised to 5. We don't really want to make it any more because that's what makes Habbox Events unique. Speaking from personal experience, I was invited to join the Events Team on another site the other day, but kindly declined due to being expected to host 3 events per week.

I know Roxy has had encounters with trialists in the past who have said they applied to Habbox because they aren't expected to host a silly amount of events, which again... is fair enough.

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Originally Posted by Bolt660

I think the minimum of 4 events per month is a little low really. Maybe it could be upped slightly? At a time when a department has less staff members- it's crucial to work as a team to ensure the same output is still maintained etc.

This is easier said than done with the events dept. Activity is a big issue :( Hopefully with the new set of trialists it will help!

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Originally Posted by Bolt660

If there is an issue with prizes, perhaps some of the habbox funds somewhere along the line could be used more for events. I know it would be hard to organise, but I just think it would be great if some of the donations we get could be put to more use in events and promotion on habbo.

Funnily enough, this came up in the suggestions thread a while back and apparently the problem is that Habbox don't get enough donations. I suppose you take on the role of event organiser knowing you'll have to give your own prizes, but I do think it should be addressed that if you're stuggling for prizes, Habbox might be able to help out. Jin has a large room full of furni according to another thread!

So yeah, just waiting to see if events applications can bring some more people who are active on the forum and willing to do plenty of events :P
09-10-2010, 06:50 PM
Samantha

I agree. Almost every site is 3 events per week. Except one I used to work at ;). 5 seems fair.
09-10-2010, 07:10 PM
Inseriousity.

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Originally Posted by David Jason

@Alex, competition winners thread is regularily updated, but the winners aren't. I won you're graphics competition in September, and I'm already using the VIP from it, and I have received the REP, but not all comps are notified in the winners thread. :)

I'm confused? I'll admit that comps administrative work (updating the page on Habbox, picking winners etc) has always been a very up-and-down rollercoaster. We like to have 2-3 days to pick winners but last month, it ended up longer than that and it was rightly picked upon. We're going to try and improve on these things and already the page on Habbox is slightly better, I think it might be a day behind (entirely my fault, not Alex's).

Giving out prizes has always been a struggle. There was that idea many moons ago about the 'Prize Collection Day' and we didn't forget about it, we were just waiting for the right time to introduce it and just continued with the current system as quickly as possible. I don't mind telling you we were waiting for the 'Habbox Bank' which had a very good function behind it.

As always, a part of my job is looking at the threads in here just in case comps feedback pops up! It always seems to happen in other threads not related to us so it's best to look at everything :P
09-10-2010, 07:49 PM
Samantha

Oh I don't really care abou prizes, usually when I win they're forum based or an HC which I swap for rep :D

I don't like the prize collection idea.
Never have. Just think it's unfair on peope who can't be on.
09-10-2010, 07:53 PM
Inseriousity.

We'd make arrangements for other people who can't fit those times. :)