'My daddy is a hero': Girl, 6, attends funeral of her father

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'My daddy is a hero': Girl, 6, attends funeral of her father - the 100th soldier to die in Afghanistan this year

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The last time Lucy Davies waved her father goodbye, it was to wish him well during his tour of duty. Yesterday, the six-year-old waved a final, heartbreaking farewell at his funeral. Guardsman Christopher ­Davies, of the 1st Battalion Irish Guards, became the 100th member of Britain’s armed forces to die in Afghanistan this year after being shot during an ambush in Helmand province on November 17.

The 22-year-old was described as a ‘legend, a perfect dad and a soldier’s soldier’ who wanted to make a difference, in emotional tributes from his mother ­Catherine, and his brothers Matt and John, the latter of whom had served alongside him. Hundreds of mourners lined the streets in his hometown of St Helens, Merseyside, to pay their respects.

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Our soldiers are dying out there all the time and for what? this story had me near tears, and thats the sad thing - what are they dying for? why can't one mainstream politician stand up and say enough is enough and bring these innocent people home to stop them dying for a hopeless cause. A girl without a Dad to prop up a corrupt puppet government in Kabul, was it really worth it Mr Blair? Mr Brown? Mr Cameron? what always astounds me is the fact that the warmongers who support these wars are never there to volunteer themselves or their own children for the cause, and afterall who would sacrifice themselves or their children for these wars? would Blair? would Brown? Cameron?

Bring them home now.

Thoughts if any needed.

I thought you were above using propaganda?

I thought you were about using reason rather than just a sad face...

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Originally Posted by Chippiewill

I thought you were above using propaganda?

I thought you were about using reason rather than just a sad face...

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Propaganda? this girl hasn't got a Dad now thanks to our political class - and if it takes sad but real pictures to reinforce the facts then i'll use them, it's easy to forget on the news when you simply hear 'another British soldier killed in action' - but maybe this will drum it home for some people.

I know i'm guilty of that and this really brought it home for me.

The best way to know if you are in support of a war (as in really supporting it) is if you ask yourself 'would I be prepared to die for that cause?' in which case you should go to your local military regiment and go and sign up, something which most warhawks don't seem to do much anymore despite the fact they are perfectly content with sending people half the way around the world to die in order to keep corrupt puppet governments standing.

The Afghanistan issue is never discussed and is never talked about, time to talk about it until more people die for nothing.

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Propaganda? this girl hasn't got a Dad now thanks to our political class - and if it takes sad but real pictures to reinforce the facts then i'll use them, it's easy to forget on the news when you simply hear 'another British soldier killed in action' - but maybe this will drum it home for some people.

I know i'm guilty of that and this really brought it home for me.

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This afghan girl has lost her afghan father to the taliban:
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If our soldiers don't keep fighting there will be more children without parents

/end random nonsense arguing about nothing because it's the same for everyone so pointless propoganda like this thread =

NOTHING.

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Originally Posted by Chippiewill

This afghan girl has lost her afghan father to the taliban:
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If our soldiers don't keep fighting there will be more children without parents

/end random nonsense arguing about nothing because it's the same for everyone so pointless propoganda like this thread =

NOTHING.

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But we know we can't defeat the Taliban and that we are being defeated in a scenario mirroring the British imperial occupation, the Soviet occupation, the Vietnam war; but why don't you go and volunteer to fight in Afghanistan if you believe that we can? or are you all words but no action just like most of the supporters of this war.

..and if your not old enough I do hope your planning to go over there when you do come of age.

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But we know we can't defeat the Taliban and that we are being defeated in a scenario mirroring the British imperial occupation, the Soviet occupation, the Vietnam war; but why don't you go and volunteer to fight in Afghanistan if you believe that we can? or are you all words but no action just like most of the supporters of this war.

..and if your not old enough I do hope your planning to go over there when you do come of age.

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British Soldiers aren't obliged to go to Afghanistan, if they didn't want to go and instead wanted to live off of our taxes doing nothing then their in the wrong job. Every single soldier who was signed up to the armed forces either supports or does not care about the war in Afghanistan otherwise they would not have made that choice.

Your argument is flawed.

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Originally Posted by Chippiewill

British Soldiers aren't obliged to go to Afghanistan, if they didn't want to go and instead wanted to live off of our taxes doing nothing then their in the wrong job. Every single soldier who was signed up to the armed forces either supports or does not care about the war in Afghanistan otherwise they would not have made that choice.

Your argument is flawed.

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Or maybe they are in a job in order to pay for their houses back in the UK for their families to live in, or maybe they do support it - yet that doesn't make it right does it? so I ask again; why don't you sign up and go and serve over there? if you believe in it then you'll be prepared to go and do it.

What are we doing over there? why are people dying and why are billions being spent on a cause that is long since dead (if it was ever alive)?

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Or maybe they are in a job in order to pay for their houses back in the UK for their families to live in, or maybe they do support it - yet that doesn't make it right does it? so I ask again; why don't you sign up and go and serve over there? if you believe in it then you'll be prepared to go and do it.

What are we doing over there? why are people dying and why are billions being spent on a cause that is long since dead (if it was ever alive)?

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Well they obviously believe in it so it's fine, they believe they should be out there, THAT is what matters. Then can also seek other job professions if they don't, they're not tied into the army for the whole of their lives. Not everyone who believes in a war is cut out for war.


Because if it is still achieving more good than harm then it's fine, which it is.

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Originally Posted by Chippiewill

Well they obviously believe in it so it's fine, they believe they should be out there, THAT is what matters. Then can also seek other job professions if they don't, they're not tied into the army for the whole of their lives. Not everyone who believes in a war is cut out for war.

Because if it is still achieving more good than harm then it's fine, which it is.

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Oh yes it's fine they are dying for a cause that is dead, perfectly fine isn't it? its fine to prop up a corrupt regime, its fine to pretend that we are winning against the Taliban (which is now being joined by pro-independence Afghanistanis who are fed up of foreign occupation who also usually are the people who have just had their crops firebombed by the U.S. airforce).

You say its achieving more good, what exactly is this war achieving?

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You say its achieving more good, what exactly is this war achieving?

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It's hard to make a comparison when you cannot see both states, there is no telling what havoc would incur if we were to pull out of Afganistan. It is NOT as simple as just pulling out as you make it seem.

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Originally Posted by Chippiewill

It's hard to make a comparison when you cannot see both states, there is no telling what havoc would incur if we were to pull out of Afganistan. It is NOT as simple as just pulling out as you make it seem.

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And Afghanistan isn't a cesspit of total havoc now?

As for withdrawal, yes it is - the Canadians have pulled the plug and our parliament is sovereign under which no parliament can bind its successor. We could leave tommorow if any of our politicians had the guts to stand up and admit that this disgraceful war is a total waste of life.

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We could leave tommorow if any of our politicians had the guts to stand up and admit that this disgraceful war is a total waste of life.

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It is our moral obligation to stay, I guess however, that you do not have morals but merely self interest in gaining more money.

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It is our moral obligation to stay, I guess however, that you do not have morals but merely self interest in gaining more money.

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So would you support (and sign up for) an invasion of Saudi Arabia, Iran, Cuba, China and so forth?

I disagree with you Dan.

Firstly before anything I'm going to say nobody deserves my, or your respect more than the soldiers who risk their lives on a daily basis, and those who pay the ultimate sacrifice to help the world fine peace.

HOWEVER, this isn't conscription. What never fails to confuse me is how people can complain about our soldiers going to war when they choose to go themselves. They knew the risks of their profession prior to pursuing it. You can't join the military without thinking about going to war.

And to define that war. What makes me so damn proud of the Canadian soldiers going off to peace keep is that those brave people are going over knowingly, to make life better for other people - people they've never met and likely wont ever meet.

So to say we shouldn't be over in the Middle East fighting is, in my opinion, one of the most selfish things anyone can say. First off their being involved or not involved in the Middle East has ABSOLUTELY NO impact towards your life at all. So when there are people voluntarily venturing over to serve their country who in the right mind do you think you are to disagree? It's one thing to say you feel sorrow for them losing their lives, but to then turn their death around as a reason to get out and void everything they fought and died to achieve is cowardly, and in my opinion utterly ridiculous.

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So would you support (and sign up for) an invasion of Saudi Arabia, Iran, Cuba, China and so forth?

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I could care less about anything else other than A) making sure the highest amount of people survive and B) Making sure EVERYONE in the world has basic human rights and a minimal amount of opportunities. If it were actually even remotely possible to be victorious in China would I support imposing both political and possibly militarily strategy as to turn them into a democracy who looks out in the best interest of her people? Yes.

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So would you support (and sign up for) an invasion of Saudi Arabia, Iran, Cuba, China and so forth?

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Sure I would support if it is to some benefit and would not just cause us to be nuked by the other countries. I generally don't want to be in the army as I feel that I could not kill a person, unlike some of the people on this forum who think that people who are mentally ill and are not responsible for their actions should be sentenced to death.

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Originally Posted by HotelUser

I disagree with you Dan.

Firstly before anything I'm going to say nobody deserves my, or your respect more than the soldiers who risk their lives on a daily basis, and those who pay the ultimate sacrifice to help the world fine peace.

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Indeed, people who are actually prepared to go and fight over there (many of them even if they don't believe in the cause fully) which is more than can be said for the pair of you.

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HOWEVER, this isn't conscription. What never fails to confuse me is how people can complain about our soldiers going to war when they choose to go themselves. They knew the risks of their profession prior to pursuing it. You can't join the military without thinking about going to war.

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The difference being that I expect my government to send the armed forces into battle only when it is absolutely essential in terms of my country being attacked, I do not expect my government to invade a country on behalf of another country and to stay there while losing the war propping up a government which is utterly corrupt.

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And to define that war. What makes me so damn proud of the Canadian soldiers going off to peace keep is that those brave people are going over knowingly, to make life better for other people - people they've never met and likely wont ever meet.

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Yes yes, all very flattering when you put it like that - except its a different story when its your own family dying to 'keep the peace' in a country which is far from peaceful and I doubt will be peaceful for the next 100 years+

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So to say we shouldn't be over in the Middle East fighting is, in my opinion, one of the most selfish things anyone can say. First off their being involved or not involved in the Middle East has ABSOLUTELY NO impact towards your life at all. So when there are people voluntarily venturing over to serve their country who in the right mind do you think you are to disagree? It's one thing to say you feel sorrow for them losing their lives, but to then turn their death around as a reason to get out and void everything they fought and died to achieve is cowardly, and in my opinion utterly ridiculous.

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I disagree because we are sending people over to another country to die for a cause which does not exist anymore and for a campaign which is a fruitless venture that will end in failure just as history has proven time and time again. I do like the use of the word cowardly though, from somebody who is so eager to prance around the world enforcing 'governments in a box' on other nations who is sitting behind a computer desk and has no intentions of going to fight for his cause at all - or are you going to stand up to the plate and your beliefs and go and fight there yourself? or is it the job of other people to die for your cause?

What they fought and died for is void, because what has been achieved and what will be achieved? nothing. I'm not going to sit here pretending that something has been achieved there when it clearly hasn't and never will aslong as we are there.

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I could care less about anything else other than A) making sure the highest amount of people survive and B) Making sure EVERYONE in the world has basic human rights and a minimal amount of opportunities. If it were actually even remotely possible to be victorious in China would I support imposing both political and possibly militarily strategy as to turn them into a democracy who looks out in the best interest of her people? Yes.

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Well we could be victorious in China but it would mean many many deaths, but that doesn't matter really does it because the results of Iraq and Afghanistan have been worth all those deaths haven't they? two countries in even more ruins than they were previously with corrupt governments that will fall the moment we leave (which we will eventually). But I take it you are all for invading Saudi Arabia and Cuba then yeah?

Again, you are all for these wars but won't go and serve yourself.

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Sure I would support if it is to some benefit and would not just cause us to be nuked by the other countries. I generally don't want to be in the army as I feel that I could not kill a person, unlike some of the people on this forum who think that people who are mentally ill and are not responsible for their actions should be sentenced to death.

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Ahh so the cowards game, only pick off the little countries which you believe you have a chance of beating (oh and they must have good mineral deposits aswell, Lithium in Afghanistan and Oil in Iraq - leave Zimbabwe because its just sand and grass). As for the reference to the death penalty, I don't believe you replied to that thread and I would ask you to do so because nobody suggested that.

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Ahh so the cowards game, only pick off the little countries which you believe you have a chance of beating (oh and they must have good mineral deposits aswell, Lithium in Afghanistan and Oil in Iraq - leave Zimbabwe because its just sand and grass).

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There's no point killing everyone in the armed forces for no reason, I wouldn't go against China because that's dumb, but if there is a country which is being oppressed by a dictator then I believe that they should be liberated.

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As for the reference to the death penalty, I don't believe you replied to that thread and I would ask you to do so because nobody suggested that.

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Actually I refer to it every time it is mentioned, people just ignore me because they are too 'sick and 'disgusted' about how someone with bipolar disorder could not control their emotions and killed someone.

Also at the moment I am far more beneficial to this country by contributing to the economy than being one of those people who waste millions of pounds per day with 'cover fire'

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Indeed, people who are actually prepared to go and fight over there (many of them even if they don't believe in the cause fully) which is more than can be said for the pair of you.

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To praise a hero doesn't require being one. To insult a hero's efforts? Walk a day in their shoes.

They don't support it? Why did they join the Army? Not what I would call a smart life choice :P

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The difference being that I expect my government to send the armed forces into battle only when it is absolutely essential in terms of my country being attacked, I do not expect my government to invade a country on behalf of another country and to stay there while losing the war propping up a government which is utterly corrupt.

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Your country's wishes are unimportant to me when it means the saving and bettering of innocent people's lives can take place at little to no consequence for you.

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Yes yes, all very flattering when you put it like that - except its a different story when its your own family dying to 'keep the peace' in a country which is far from peaceful and I doubt will be peaceful for the next 100 years+

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Again, they decided to pursue a career in military. Also again, it might not be peaceful for the next 100 years, but atleast it's gotten a heck of a lot better than it was.

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I disagree because we are sending people over to another country to die for a cause which does not exist anymore and for a campaign which is a fruitless venture that will end in failure just as history has proven time and time again. I do like the use of the word cowardly though, from somebody who is so eager to prance around the world enforcing 'governments in a box' on other nations who is sitting behind a computer desk and has no intentions of going to fight for his cause at all - or are you going to stand up to the plate and your beliefs and go and fight there yourself? or is it the job of other people to die for your cause?

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If there's an opposition to peace there's a cause to fight for. How do you know when I'm not older that I don't have intentions of being involved in foreign peace keeping?

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What they fought and died for is void, because what has been achieved and what will be achieved? nothing. I'm not going to sit here pretending that something has been achieved there when it clearly hasn't and never will aslong as we are there.

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This is uberlame. Obviously what they fought and died for isn't void. Last time I checked the commies, or the taliban aren't the victorious power in the East anymore. Oh, and by saying it's all void I guess you're completely neglecting all the local lives which have been saved in OUR hospitals in places like Kandahar. Tell you what, once you've lived in Kandahar for a year if you still think the cause is completely void I'm all ears.

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Well we could be victorious in China but it would mean many many deaths, but that doesn't matter really does it because the results of Iraq and Afghanistan have been worth all those deaths haven't they? two countries in even more ruins than they were previously with corrupt governments that will fall the moment we leave (which we will eventually). But I take it you are all for invading Saudi Arabia and Cuba then yeah?

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We couldn't be victorious in China. Or if we could there wouldn't be anyone left on the face of the Earth to acknowledge the feat.

The Cuba situation is extremely weird because it's the Americans who have completely screwed Cuba over initially in the first place. If we could remove of their communist dictatorship whilst avoiding international ramifications leading to armageddon then yeah, I am all for heading in. I certainly think we have a better chance of success at correcting Cuba than I do China - and the ace in the deck with taking Cuba is China would likely do nothing to prevent us from going in. They're too busy loving trade with the free world whilst the Chinese LDC lifestyle lives on.

Having said all that too though again I think what would save the most lives and what would improve the lives of the most people is the best course of action to take. I also believe isolationism is stupid and any country, especially when their corporations are exploiting works in various parts of the world, is entirely in the wrong.

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Again, you are all for these wars but won't go and serve yourself.

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I'm all for war if it's going to better the lives of innocent people. Heck, I'm for a lot of things if it means making the lives of those better where history has taken its toll. I don't see countries independently Dan. You and I weren't born into richer and more stable places because we're more worthy. We just got more lucky than 70% of the rest of the world. And I will happily walk through the gates of hell the day I die if I live my life in luxury knowing the guys next door are being raped or starving to death.

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Ahh so the cowards game, only pick off the little countries which you believe you have a chance of beating (oh and they must have good mineral deposits aswell, Lithium in Afghanistan and Oil in Iraq - leave Zimbabwe because its just sand and grass). As for the reference to the death penalty, I don't believe you replied to that thread and I would ask you to do so because nobody suggested that.

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Of course we should start with the little countries. If you see two bullies at school, one has a knife and the other's a litte kid beating up on a little girl are you going to ignore the little girl's pleas for help just because you can't help whoever's being victimized by the knife - the bigger bully? Of course not. The attitude you're presenting here is, well.. if we can't help everyone we should help nobody. What? How silly :P

Waste of time fighting in Afghanistan all it's doing it causing more deaths and he's hardly a hero, if he's dead.

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Waste of time fighting in Afghanistan all it's doing it causing more deaths and he's hardly a hero, if he's dead.

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Are you serious? Are you heartless or something? Leave the poor girl alone.

I'm just sayin, he's hardly a hero if he's dead and who's hero was he exactly? Has he affected this country apart from in a negative way by being in the army fighting a bloody pointless war.

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I'm just sayin, he's hardly a hero if he's dead and who's hero was he exactly? Has he affected this country apart from in a negative way by being in the army fighting a bloody pointless war.

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Excuse me? Just because he's dead and no longer alive doesn't mean he shouldn't be classed as a hero to his daughter who is only six years old. It may be a bloody pointless war to yourself but the soldiers are not in control of what war they fight in or not, they are given orders and they follow them orders. They did sign up to be in the armed forces for these reasons and will be sent around the world to fight in whatever war they may need to fight in.

I hardly doubt you will go up to a six year old and be like "Sorry your dad is no hero", that is disgusting. Oh and everyone should respect the armed services, they do a bloody great job and they are fantastic credit to this country. You may not agree with the war that is going on in Afghanistan but that does give you right to start disrespecting them.

But he isn't a hero is he, whos life has he saved? No ones.

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But he isn't a hero is he, whos life has he saved? No ones.

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How would you know if he hasn't or not? He may of saved other soldiers while fighting the taliban over in Afghanistan or saved innocent civilian people while over there. Don't say such silly things when you have no idea. He is a hero to his family and to his own daughter, you should not take that away from them. If they want to class them as a hero, they shall.

Would you say the same thing to the millions of British people who died during the world wars? I bet you wouldn't one bit.

I respect soldiers and people who risk their own lifes for others, but something about the topic of wars like these, it annoys me slightly.
With no disrespect, these soldiers choose to fight in these wars, they know the consiquences of going to these places, they know they could be killed.
You get charities like Help for Heros, they must get lots of money to help the soldiers and whatever.
But imo other charities like Make a Wish and G.O.S.H should be main charities that most support, they help people, children and adults who can't help help the condition they're in, they try to help and give them the best quality of life they can, whereas soldiers choose to go and possibley be killed, or be seriously injured.
Again, I do not think what the soldiers do is nothing, I think they are heros, what they do is good, but they are taking other peoples lifes away, they are taking childrens parents away from them, which in this case has happend to that little girl, she doesn't have a dad anymore, nor does that little afgan girl.

That man is a hero, he died fighting for his country, he is going to be rememberd as a hero.

Not I wouldn't cos we were getting bombed almost weekly not every 5 years.

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Not I wouldn't cos we were getting bombed almost weekly not every 5 years.

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Yeah I thought so but all of my other points still stand. Oh and we don't get bombed every 5 years either.

When was the last Taliban related bomb aimed at England?

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When was the last Taliban related bomb aimed at England?

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We do not get bombed every 5 years in this country, you think terrorists wait 5 years to bomb us? Don't be so silly.

7 July 2005 London bombings
29 June 2007 - London
30 June 2007 - Glasgow Internal Airport

(Not all bombs though)

Answer the question, when was the last time, it was '07 I think. Almost 4 years.

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Answer the question, when was the last time, it was '07 I think. Almost 4 years.

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I edited my post and stated the following information:

7 July 2005 - London bombings
29 June 2007 - London
30 June 2007 - Glasgow Internal Airport

(Not all bombs though)

If you know information that terrorists wait every 5 years for another bomb to go off in the United Kingdom. Surely you know too much information and you should give this information to the Anti-Terrorism units maybe? Of course you don't. Unless you actually have inside knowledge of this at all, no one has said they wait every five years to do something.

So I was right, over 4 years ago, so we're fighting a war that hasn't affected us for about 4 years.

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So I was right, over 4 years ago, so we're fighting a war that hasn't affected us for about 4 years.

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How are you correct? You said:

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Not I wouldn't cos we were getting bombed almost weekly not every 5 years.

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Where the heck do you get every 5 years from? Just because London was back in 2005. <_<

I was reffering to the bombings in 2005 and anyway, it's almost 4 years since we were bombed in '07

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I was reffering to the bombings in 2005 and anyway, it's almost 4 years since we were bombed in '07

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You said 5 years, all the other ones don't count now do they not? Just the London one? I don't even see the point in this argument over something so little as a little girls Daddy being a hero, it's just sick. If your dad died and you where 6 would you not say he was a hero? For going out in a war? It's just so ridiculous. Grow up and see the things that's happening around you.

Also, we was bombed twice in '07. So, that was 4 years ago too! wow. You've had no recent ones either?

Now I wouldn't say he was a hero, my granddad died in WW2 but he wasn't a hero.

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I was reffering to the bombings in 2005 and anyway, it's almost 4 years since we were bombed in '07

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I'll explain the three dates to you even more.

7 July 2005 London bombings:
56+ people died and over 700 was injured. (Yes that was caused by terrorists with bombs)

That is 5 years, 5 months and 4 days ago.

London 2007
On 29 June 2007, two unexploded car bombs were discovered in London.


I thought they did this every five years? Oh wait that is only: 1 year, 11 months and 22 days

Glasgow Airport 2007

On 30 June 2007 a Jeep Cherokee drives into the glass doors of the main terminal. A suspected car bomb failed to detonate.

These are not even five years apart. So are you saying the next one is within the next few years or so when it is actually 5 years from 2007? Shall we also include the plots that have took place? Such as the liquid bombs or even the bombs that were found in the printer inks.

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Now I wouldn't say he was a hero, my granddad died in WW2 but he wasn't a hero.

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Did he take part in the world war? Was in the armed services? Did he help out? If so, then he is a hero.

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I'll explain the three dates to you even more.

7 July 2005 London bombings:
56+ people died and over 700 was injured. (Yes that was caused by terrorists with bombs)

That is 5 years, 5 months and 4 days ago.

London 2007
On 29 June 2007, two unexploded car bombs were discovered in London.


I thought they did this every five years? Oh wait that is only: 1 year, 11 months and 22 days

Glasgow Airport 2007

On 30 June 2007 a Jeep Cherokee drives into the glass doors of the main terminal. A suspected car bomb failed to detonate.

These are not even five years apart. So are you saying the next one is within the next few years or so when it is actually 5 years from 2007? Shall we also include the plots that have took place? Such as the liquid bombs or even the bombs that were found in the printer inks.



Did he take part in the world war? Was in the armed services? Did he help out? If so, then he is a hero.

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That girl/boy didn't ask me if you thought he was a hero, she asked me whether I'd call my family hero's if they took part in wars and thinking about it now, possibly I would, but fighting in a war that we brought on ourselves doesn't make you a hero.

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That girl/boy didn't ask me if you thought he was a hero, she asked me whether I'd call my family hero's if they took part in wars and thinking about it now, possibly I would, but fighting in a war that we brought on ourselves doesn't make you a hero.

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These people sign up to the armed services because they want to fight for their country and they want to feel proud to be British and so on. They do not control what wars they are sent to, they are given orders and they follow them. They do their best to complete the missions and objectives and so on to ensure peace and safety is carried out. I may not agree with the full Afghan war but every single person who is over there fighting from this country or any other country such as the USA are heros and their family and friends should be proud of them.

So everyone that is in the army is a hero, Hitler took part in many wars, is he a hero? He was proud to be Austrian and he tried to complete objectives too.