Job Vacany Suggestion

Hello Guys.
So I was just stumbling this thought when I was speaking to a few members of the Habbox Community.

So recently I have seen OUR department staff with more than one profession within Habbox which is perfectly fine, HOWEVER alot of fans/listeners have been let down from applying because Habbox staff are taking more then one job, it is unfair.

These people have alot more time on there hands and can concentrate on there specific department, and I think we should do the same. With alot more time on our hands, we can plan our shows out and make them alot more fun and neater and also plan for that full hour or two.
So what do you think of this idea:

Habbox Staff can only have one role within Habbox, and can only apply for another job if that department has no decent and/or many applicants and then they can apply.

*Like I say it's just a suggestion, I was just wondering what your thoughts would be.*

No, disagree 100%. The best applicants should get the job. I know where you're coming from, but I just don't agree. A few friends of mine who don't work here applied for Events - they didn't get it (although he is very rich lol). It's about having the best application, and if they truly want the job they'll apply again and again until they get it anyway.

Plus, you only apply for a job if you know you're going to have time to do it, so the fact that you won't have enough time to plan shows etc doesn't come into it because you only apply for another job if you have time to do it.

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Originally Posted by Conservative,

No, disagree 100%. The best applicants should get the job. I know where you're coming from, but I just don't agree. A few friends of mine who don't work here applied for Events - they didn't get it (although he is very rich lol). It's about having the best application, and if they truly want the job they'll apply again and again until they get it anyway. Plus, you only apply for a job if you know you're going to have time to do it, so the fact that you won't have enough time to plan shows etc doesn't come into it because you only apply for another job if you have time to do it.

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Like you says the best applicants get the job, your friend must of had a bad applicant. For the 'time' thing, thats not always the case. A certain person is undergoing there exams and this specific person has three professions within Habbox. They dont have the time and I can guarantee you that they dont. Also the applications forms for being open, open every two-four weeks and that is pretty long, so they would try somewhere else

Well see some departments are very hard to get a toe in the door, let alone able to get jobs. Its the best applications that get the job i agree with robbie... I can see what your saying but the department managers to make that decision. Its about what the person can bring to the department and the other people are not over looked. I have 2 trials going as well as being a snr dj, im going thru exams plus work experience but i already plan shows and my rare value on the weekend in advance so then i have time still.. but its also about proving to yourself, time management and to me how much stress i can handle for when irl i come into a situation my skill is needed.

i honestly don't care, not really a serious issue

I disagree just because habboxlive staff are staff for other departments doesnt mean in any way they are doing something wrong, if their application is good then they will be accepted for another role at habbox if they remain dedicated to both departments (especially habboxlive then its fine). I honestly don't think this is a big problem.

I disagree with that purely because its the best person who gets the job. I suggest this thread is closed soon, its one of those threads which could cause rows.

there is a rule that you can't be on trial in more than like 2 community department jobs, at least there used to be. I don't think it's such a problem, everyone has to apply and everybody is given a fair chance to get the job. It's certainly not the case that "oh this person works at Habbox they can have the job!" everything is taken into consideration when applicants are picked :)

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Originally Posted by Partian

Like you says the best applicants get the job, your friend must of had a bad applicant. For the 'time' thing, thats not always the case. A certain person is undergoing there exams and this specific person has three professions within Habbox. They dont have the time and I can guarantee you that they dont. Also the applications forms for being open, open every two-four weeks and that is pretty long, so they would try somewhere else

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That's not something you can judge, you are not in a position to say whether someone does or does not have the time to work at Habbox - it's their life, they can do as they please and if their managers notice them struggling then they can sort it out themselves. I have masses of experience with staff roles at Habbox and I know from this experience that some of our most successful staff have been members of staff in multiple departments.

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Originally Posted by dinasaw

there is a rule that you can't be on trial in more than like 2 community department jobs, at least there used to be. I don't think it's such a problem, everyone has to apply and everybody is given a fair chance to get the job. It's certainly not the case that "oh this person works at Habbox they can have the job!" everything is taken into consideration when applicants are picked :)

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You cannot have more than 3 trials in any jobs at any time. Once you have passed the trial stage however there is no limit to how many jobs you can have. Why do I think this system is fair? As Robbie said, the aim of the game is to hire the best people from the best applications. I will not hire mediocre people for the sake of giving them a Habbox Job over someone who has a couple of jobs at Habbox already and would do a much better job.

My aim is to ensure that the staff team at this organisation is strong and by ensuring our managers are hiring people based on the strongest applicants is a way to do this.

Time is the only real problem - and it's very possible to concentrate on more than one department. I believe that I'm quite dedicated and have plenty of time for each department I'm in - and even though HxL may need more planning, it's not fair to stop potentially great staff from applying. Compared to other fansites, we have a huge amount of staff, and I'm sure it's difficult for some people to keep up with it all - even more so if everyone with multiple jobs were forced to quit and be replaced.

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Originally Posted by Partian

Habbox Staff can only have one role within Habbox, and can only apply for another job if that department has no decent and/or many applicants and then they can apply.

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If this was brought in, it would basically be saying that everyone might have applied wasn't good enough... that's the message we'd want to put across...

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Originally Posted by -fire-girl-

Time is the only real problem - and it's very possible to concentrate on more than one department. I believe that I'm quite dedicated and have plenty of time for each department I'm in - and even though HxL may need more planning, it's not fair to stop potentially great staff from applying. Compared to other fansites, we have a huge amount of staff, and I'm sure it's difficult for some people to keep up with it all - even more so if everyone with multiple jobs were forced to quit and be replaced.

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in reply to da bit in bold - ye but you lack a life (A) jk xx

In reply to the rest, yes you are right (for once), we have 118 staff in total and 172 staff roles. It's not really a case of keeping up with it because that number can fluctuate (the 118), what it is is quite simply hiring the best person for the job.

I think it's ok for people to have more than one job, seeing as they were hired because they were one of the best applicants. You wouldn't want to hire people less suitable for the job simply because the one who would do great in the job already had a job on Habbox. Also, as was mentioned before, if they start falling behind on their duties then I'm sure they would find someone to replace them, but if they are still in the department that means they are doing fine at their job.

I think it is fair this way because they hire the best people regardless and that means that we have people that know what they are doing. It really doesn't bother me if someone had 3 or 4 jobs as long as they can handle it.

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Originally Posted by Hecktix

in reply to da bit in bold - ye but you lack a life (A) jk xx

In reply to the rest, yes you are right (for once), we have 118 staff in total and 172 staff roles. It's not really a case of keeping up with it because that number can fluctuate (the 118), what it is is quite simply hiring the best person for the job.

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I do have no life (Y). That's why I can dedicate the time to here!! If someone else DID have a life, then they shouldn't apply for too many tbh. I wrote a really good explanation of what I meant then I acidentally deleted it all and can't be bothered to remember what it was... but yeah I pretty much agree - and most people would, I think.

If you or a friend doesn't get offered a trial then your application wasn't strong enough, so instead of saying stronger applicants shouldn't get more than one job, strengthen your application :)
xo

feels weird to be nice in a feedback thread where oli has posted :o :P

I don't agree with this idea at all. However, when you say we would only be allowed one job are you saying that I would have to leave two of my roles? Quite frankly I wouldn't as I love the roles I have and I have enough time for them.

I think you have good intentions and I think it's naive to say that whoever didn't get in had a bad application because it doesn't always work like that. A while back, keiller argued with me that managers don't hire non-Habbox staff. I told him that to get staff, the best thing to do is not write a brilliant application but to integrate into the community - especially of course if you're applying for community-based jobs like DJ/Events/Competitions etc. He did do this by getting active around the forum and HxHD and he did end up with some jobs in the end.

Managers, when hiring, have to take into consideration many factors that can not possibly be covered in an application (are they active? will they behave sensibly? will they do the jobs required of them? how much help will they need?). Managers have different ideas about the 'right answer' for each factor. As a general rule, however, it is normally the people that are already integrated into the community (staff in particular) that are close and therefore they're more likely to get a job, which means they're more likely to end up with multiple jobs. On the other hand, while it's all very well saying "it's up to the person to say how much time they have", it is common sense to assume that someone with 1 job will have more time for it if they don't have others so to me, it's all about finding the right balance... which is why I always try to hire people who don't have any other jobs so that they can get a 'foot on the ladder' and have the time to commit.

In short: too many factors to consider that it'd be foolish to regulate this. at end of the day, managers want the best people, the community deserves the best possible people.

I dont agree; Staff who have multiple jobs have them because they can cope with the work load, people like this are basically in their own way an Asset to Habbox it shows dedication and determination.

When i first read the thread title i imagined the content would be somewhat different then what it is.
But an idea of mine would be to have an Automatic mailing system - Where if a user is after a specific job they can suscribe (like you can to Hx Comps for notifications on new comps) and when the job(s) the user suscribed to are open they could recieve an automatic PM on the forum or an Automatic email, not sure if its do-able but thats my original thought.

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Originally Posted by Aidenn

I dont agree; Staff who have multiple jobs have them because they can cope with the work load, people like this are basically in their own way an Asset to Habbox it shows dedication and determination.

When i first read the thread title i imagined the content would be somewhat different then what it is.
But an idea of mine would be to have an Automatic mailing system - Where if a user is after a specific job they can suscribe (like you can to Hx Comps for notifications on new comps) and when the job(s) the user suscribed to are open they could recieve an automatic PM on the forum or an Automatic email, not sure if its do-able but thats my original thought.

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I think you should take a look at the Jobs widget/section on Hx.com :P

if you think jobs are hard to come across now go back a couple of years ago when i was a manager of events we go SO many applications and it was nothing compared to HxL still so it's really easy to get a job now compared to back then and this system worked then so it doesn't really matter. Sometimes it helps if you're in two departments like HxHD and HxL used to be the done thing, same with events and hxl.

not going to bother reading the replies as i already have my view on this thread

- at the end of the day it's about who are the best applicants... not if they are already staff
- what the **** is the message ''look the current applicants are bad so therefore staff can apply'' i'd hate to be one of the people who were told they were ''bad''
- if staff can't handle their current job they wouldn't apply for another

just asking here what ''community'' are you even speaking on behalf of unless it's yourself

I think that as long as the person is capable to commit themselves to more than one department then nothing should be said. It would be different if they were lacking and not pulling their weight.

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Originally Posted by Conservative,

No, disagree 100%. The best applicants should get the job. I know where you're coming from, but I just don't agree. A few friends of mine who don't work here applied for Events - they didn't get it (although he is very rich lol). It's about having the best application, and if they truly want the job they'll apply again and again until they get it anyway.

Plus, you only apply for a job if you know you're going to have time to do it, so the fact that you won't have enough time to plan shows etc doesn't come into it because you only apply for another job if you have time to do it.

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I agree 100% with this! The best aplicants should get the job, not people who don't have a job. Habbox needs to be the best, and also fair for it's users to like it, by getting the best applicants is the fairest and best way if doing things IMO.

Some managers wouldn't have come out if this was in place. I know myself and Martin probably wouldn't have managed news if this was in place because I probably would of stuck to radio, he to forum and wouldn't have applied for a reporter in the first place. Implementing this would be rather poor practice simply because it's the best people which Habbox needs.

As for not being able to get a job, I don't mean to be rude but if you aren't good enough tough luck. Suck it up and improve and keep trying, if you do that you will be bound to get it eventually.

In retrospect, it isn't even as bad as it was before, seeing as manager only manage one department now (usually), I remember back in the days nvrspk4 managing about 6 or something like that.

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Originally Posted by Grig

Some managers wouldn't have come out if this was in place. I know myself and Martin probably wouldn't have managed news if this was in place because I probably would of stuck to radio, he to forum and wouldn't have applied for a reporter in the first place. Implementing this would be rather poor practice simply because it's the best people which Habbox needs.

As for not being able to get a job, I don't mean to be rude but if you aren't good enough tough luck. Suck it up and improve and keep trying, if you do that you will be bound to get it eventually.

In retrospect, it isn't even as bad as it was before, seeing as manager only manage one department now (usually), I remember back in the days nvrspk4 managing about 6 or something like that.

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Haha I remember nvrspk's usertitle was like the longest usertitle ever.

To expand on Grig's very valid point, sometimes it's good for people to have more than 1 job - it shows us if they'd be any good at perhaps taking a job like Community AGM. I know for a fact Martin wouldn't have become Community AGM if he hadn't demonstrated his vast range of skills through a range of different jobs. Likewise with Roxy916.

I don't agree because I know people can balance their time. And if people have more than 1 job chances are they are very dedicated to Habbox. If im honest rare values isn't the most active role at Habbox so that's why i've had other jobs in the past =]

Restricting how many jobs people can do is stupid.

If someone has the time to do it, let them.

No need for an essay. It is nice you are contributing ideas, but I 100% disagree with this one :)