Shoutbox, make it happen. kty.
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Shoutbox, make it happen. kty.
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Originally Posted by Wilkd
Thanks for posting a suggestion! We have had shoutbox/chat systems over the years and they didn't really work out well. They may be used now but my two main concerns are:
- If posting decreases further because users are using the chat system. If so, bad idea.
- Moderation of the shoutbox. Moderation would need to be easy and would have to be part of the chat system.
i usually say lol no but i wouldn't mind it happening now. everyone's usual reaction is "no-one will use it" but it was used quite a bit on a saturday night when we had it a while back. don't think i'd use it now simply cause it was fun back then for the sheer immaturity that went on in there which i wouldn't do now............. it was too expensive for the amount it was used last time irrc.
not a massive fan of shoutboxes. and i don't think we're getting enough posts to implement a feature that may distract users from posting threads.
i don't like the idea, a majority of the users won't be as active in threads and people will probably be immature whilst using it.
hmm interesting suggestion, something I may look into introducing maybe a few days a week or something like that. I know a couple of other fansites have shoutboxes but only make them viewable like on a Friday/Saturday
Kills the site, bandwidth wise. Also stops people from posting. Theres little positives about it
I wouldn't say it stops people from posting, I know on other forums that I use that have shoutboxes I will still post and have a look at the shoutboox. Other fansites that have shoutboxes still manage to get a decent amount of posts as well, if it's something that's only there once or twice a week I don't think it would affect post count that dramatically really. Maybe something that we can trial and see what happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenMerc
I'll discuss it with Matt, David and Jin regarding the bandwidth issues as I know it was something that may have been a problem in the past & I guess with the downtime we have sometimes I don't want to make it any worse :o
It makes the forum slower though :(
We've had a external shoutbox before. It was the biggest waste of money...ever
Yeh I think something that CH used to do before, 'Shoutbox Friday' would be a cool idea, where people could post on a Friday evening or something just to interact. Could even bring people together more. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by scott
i think one day a week would be nice, however much i dislike shoutboxes. maybe not like a friday night cause there is an older demographic on the forum now and i'd think they'd be out, but like a wednesday or a midweek thing?
I do agree it was a waste of money but there are other alternatives and the person who did buy it in the first place is no longer here.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenMerc
If we introduced it then I think we'd probably have it one day during the week and one day during the weekend too as that's the day we have most of our visitors and would probably be used more as well, no doubt it would be a full day and not just of an evening anyway :o!Quote:
Originally Posted by Publicised
oh a full day would be good at the weekend!Quote:
Originally Posted by scott
Why not make it a external yet a vBulletin extra page, So say How FAQ's are on a seperate page, do that then code it in. I can easily enough code it so Dave would have no problem, by doing that it wont slow the page downs too much plus it won't be totally external like the other piece of junk
Even considering one would be mad! It would need constant moderation which no one has time to do and would draw people away from posting, which is something we definitely don't need during this quiet period.
If you are going to implement it, Have Box Mods :)
So you should already have the function of banning on the shoutbox, so you can ban the users. Then the moderators still have their usual jobs, box mods report people who shout be banned from the forum directly.
Not a massive fan of this idea Having it once a night, hmm okay maybe we could have a game or a quiz made up as well where we can all join in and win VIP or something? Hiring new mods seem silly for the shoutbox if it's going to be up once a week so maybe the current mods will be able to moderate it too?
I'm not totally for it but if it happens maybe a quiz would be a nice addition to it?
I've always liked the idea of shoutboxes and don't really think there's any harm to posting as people make out. If anything it might encourage more users who generally just use hxf for staff purposes or cos their group of friends use it rather than posting may come out of their shell a bit more and get more involved with a wider group of people.
kk good luck sitting online from 9am - 9pm moderating it, Yeh theres logs but you want to read through the logs daily lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Jordan
soz your a noob, your ideas are invalid untill you've been registered a year more xxQuote:
Originally Posted by Inseriousity.
I came to the impression that it would be an evening thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenMerc
Someone said it would be for 1 whole day in the thread :P
It seems better to have it starting at say 5 and having it last throughout the night as thats when it's more active. Besides the moderators now do not monitor the forum 24 hours a day and quite a few people do report posts. I can't even see it being a popular thing during the day really (depending on the day though)Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenMerc
There will be about 16 members who will be able to moderate it so I don't think we would need to go out our way to hire anyone just to moderate the shoutbox for one or two days a week.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenMerc
Yeah Mike that's what I said to hoteluser & xxMATTGxx I think it may help to increase posting, but it's certainly something I think we are going to try out now!
-facepalm, atleast take it off forum home PLEASE
*Smashes head off wall*Quote:
Originally Posted by scott
Okay well I'm a bit sceptical on the whole idea and can't see it doing much good for the forum at all, but it'll be interesting to see how it plays out. Who are the 16 people who will be able to moderate it?
haha means you cant get your post count up then ;) lolQuote:
Originally Posted by GoldenMerc
and mehh dont mind the idea. not really fussed, if its going to be added tho make sure that you don't have to view it :)
Only time well tell I guess, we will no doubt add it for a trial period first :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Infectious
General Management, me and Brandon, moderators, super moderaotrs
2 Forum Super ModeratorsQuote:
Originally Posted by Infectious
4 AGM
2 Forum Managers
7 Forum Moderators
ok i dont know who the 16th one is but it's quite a good number for moderation.
ok well i meant 15 :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Jordan
Im 16th (A)
I see. Can anyone actually see an advantage to a shoutbox, cause I'm struggling.Quote:
Originally Posted by scott
can i just suggest that you dont let infectious moderate it or we'll only be allowed to talk about the teletubbies on there
You could suggest that, but I'll probably just call you an idiot if you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stephen!
The way I see it as is the forum is a community and it shouldn't all be about post count (all be it important) but also the community that the forum has. Richie posted something in a thread about members being all 'i cba posting a thread you post a thread instead' mood, I think if we introduce a shoutbox for a few days a week it will get people talking a bit more in that and people who no doubt wouldn't normally talk to each other, talking to each other in it. If it helps bring the community together a bit more then I don't see it as a 'silly' idea really. Like I've said though it will be introduced as a trial, if it works then great, if it doesn't then we can say that we tried it and it didn't work, it won't harm anyone really :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Infectious
Obviously moderation of it is something that will need to be looked into and probably some shoutbox rules introduced (and probably banning [@]@Stephen![/@]; from it) but that's something that Brandon and myself will discuss before we introduce it :P
Imagine the spam forum and then times it by 10. The shoutbox wont be used for anything other than talking crap and in the long run wont do the forum any good. I agree, it shouldn't all be about post count but there are more efficient ways to involve the community without resorting to something like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by scott
Mkay, I like the idea of a shoutbox but maybe as a perk to donators, VIP's and staff?
There's quite a lot of decent discussion in the spam forum. Just because there isn't any meaning to a thread doesn't make it worthless. I agree with Scott, there's more to a community than post count, it's how people interact with each other. I think the best staff bonding isn't when there's a game of OMGpop (although these are good too) but when there's a bit of banter and conversation in the spam threads. Don't see how a similar principle to that can't be extended to the wholeforumQuote:
Originally Posted by Infectious
I'm not totally for it but there's no harm in trying it out on a trial basis and then we can judge if its a good idea or not. :)
Yes I forgot that people only talk crap in the spam forumQuote:
Originally Posted by Infectious