Hiya

Lovely people, can somebody tell me how I get the new user banner? :(

hard refresh ctrl and f5 or clear your cache

can't believe they are back to the old ones :(

edit: are they even back yet

No, they're not back. Jake's seems to be an old one though.

Teal VIP never had a new one :P.

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Originally Posted by Samanfa

Teal VIP never had a new one :P.

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No fair! I demand a different color @xxMATTGxx;

Teal was never updated I believe, but we are going back to the old ones anyway once Matt changes them back :P

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Originally Posted by Bolt660

Teal was never updated I believe, but we are going back to the old ones anyway once Matt changes them back :P

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kinda sucks because new ones are nicer than old ones. Bit pointless tbh lol

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Originally Posted by Andii

kinda sucks because new ones are nicer than old ones. Bit pointless tbh lol

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opinions vary
current ones are awful imo

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Originally Posted by David

opinions vary
current ones are awful imo

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yours should have been chosen tbh =/ i don't get why they have these different threads if most people just want to keep habbox as it is. why make people waste time creating things like that to just say nope :)

i <3 yours =[

i much prefer the old ones.

I preferred the old ones but now the new ones have grown on me lol! After all the giving out people did over the userbars, I can't see some new ones being made for quite a while :P

New ones are better imo :)

I'm lost in the mix here, are the old ones still coming back? They're taking a while to make an appearance if so.

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Originally Posted by Skynus

I'm lost in the mix here, are the old ones still coming back? They're taking a while to make an appearance if so.

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Of course they are! The people voted! :P

I think Matt just hasn't got round to it yet xD

(or my joke theory about him deleting them all by accident is right)

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Originally Posted by Bolt660

Of course they are! The people voted! :P

I think Matt just hasn't got round to it yet xD

(or my joke theory about him deleting them all by accident is right)

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It's either he's deleted them or he's being lazy. I'd say the latter @xxMATTGxx; (jokes).

Or extremely busy? :)

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Originally Posted by Skynus

It's either he's deleted them or he's being lazy. I'd say the latter @xxMATTGxx; (jokes).

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The userbars shouldn't have been changed in the first place without asking if we wanted them as really it wasted a lot of time xD.

No time has been wasted apart from the Graphics Designer in question. But it is interesting how no one really cares about the userbars in place now - Reminds me of the Habbo font removal.

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

No time has been wasted apart from the Graphics Designer in question. But it is interesting how no one really cares about the userbars in place now - Reminds me of the Habbo font removal.

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What do you mean by nobody really cares about them? :P

They must have felt strong enough to vote in the poll, since people did vote for the design, but the majority ended up voting for the old design to come back. People have been asking whether they have returned or not too which implies that they care. :P Of course certain people won't be bothered, peoples opinions vary a lot, but the poll has spoken really xD

When roughly can we expect to see them back? :P I recall someone saying they would be done "sometime tomorrow" nearly a week ago. :P

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

No time has been wasted apart from the Graphics Designer in question. But it is interesting how no one really cares about the userbars in place now - Reminds me of the Habbo font removal.

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i do, but we all know the old ones are returning so not point arguing over them not being changed yet is my view

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Originally Posted by Bolt660

What do you mean by nobody really cares about them? :P

They must have felt strong enough to vote in the poll, since people did vote for the design, but the majority ended up voting for the old design to come back. People have been asking whether they have returned or not too which implies that they care. :P Of course certain people won't be bothered, peoples opinions vary a lot, but the poll has spoken really xD

When roughly can we expect to see them back? :P I recall someone saying they would be done "sometime tomorrow" nearly a week ago. :P

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People were strong enough to sign a peition for Sulake to keep volter. No one gives a crap about it being changed, it just took them a few weeks to get used to it. Technically we don't have to listen to feedback or listen to anything people say as it's management who make the decisions of what happens on the site. But fortunately for everyone, we have a feedback section. I'm not saying they aren't coming back but I'm just proving a point. A point that occurs many times over and over again - I never set a date of me changing the user bars so anyone mentioning dates doesn't have a clue.

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Originally Posted by David

i do, but we all know the old ones are returning so not point arguing over them not being changed yet is my view

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Ah but are they returning? It took some days after for people to realise they haven't changed back yet.

What I am trying to say is, people don't like change at first but after some weeks people are like "Shrugs" or "Meh" and they get over it.

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

People were strong enough to sign a peition for Sulake to keep volter. No one gives a crap about it being changed, it just took them a few weeks to get used to it. Technically we don't have to listen to feedback or listen to anything people say as it's management who make the decisions of what happens on the site. But fortunately for everyone, we have a feedback section. I'm not saying they aren't coming back but I'm just proving a point. A point that occurs many times over and over again - I never set a date of me changing the user bars so anyone mentioning dates doesn't have a clue.



Ah but are they returning? It took some days after for people to realise they haven't changed back yet.

What I am trying to say is, people don't like change at first but after some weeks people are like "Shrugs" or "Meh" and they get over it.

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if you don't you'll trigger another feedback thread on polls ;l

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Originally Posted by David

if you don't you'll trigger another feedback thread on polls ;l

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Good job I don't lose sleep over such threads then.

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

People were strong enough to sign a peition for Sulake to keep volter. No one gives a crap about it being changed, it just took them a few weeks to get used to it. Technically we don't have to listen to feedback or listen to anything people say as it's management who make the decisions of what happens on the site. But fortunately for everyone, we have a feedback section. I'm not saying they aren't coming back but I'm just proving a point. A point that occurs many times over and over again - I never set a date of me changing the user bars so anyone mentioning dates doesn't have a clue.



Ah but are they returning? It took some days after for people to realise they haven't changed back yet.

What I am trying to say is, people don't like change at first but after some weeks people are like "Shrugs" or "Meh" and they get over it.

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Ah right :P It was your forum manager who said the "sometime tomorrow" thing, in the actual feedback thread once the voting had closed. So I guess its just another case of crossed wires :P I'm sure its not a case of him "not having a clue".


I don't think people would be that bothered to jump around screaming WHY U NO CHANGE THEM the day after, its only been around a week, however I think they would come to expect the results of a poll to be honored. :P The current design came 5th in that poll, so its not like its close or anything :P

I'm not too bothered really, but I'm just confused as to whether they are being changed or not and a simple "I haven't had time yet" or "they will be done soon." would have been fine :P I'm not arguing, moaning or trying to be a pain, I was just asking. :P

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Originally Posted by Bolt660

Ah right :P It was your forum manager who said the "sometime tomorrow" thing, in the actual feedback thread once the voting had closed. So I guess its just another case of crossed wires :P I'm sure its not a case of him "not having a clue".


I don't think people would be that bothered to jump around screaming WHY U NO CHANGE THEM the day after, its only been around a week, however I think they would come to expect the results of a poll to be honored. :P The current design came 5th in that poll, so its not like its close or anything :P

I'm not too bothered really, but I'm just confused as to whether they are being changed or not and a simple "I haven't had time yet" or "they will be done soon." would have been fine :P I'm not arguing, moaning or trying to be a pain, I was just asking. :P

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You use the :P face far too much in a single post. I'm not arguing, I'm just making a point to people.

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

You use the :P face far too much in a single post. I'm not arguing, I'm just making a point to people.

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ikr im sorry :( I'm just trying to make you realise that I'm not moaning or trying to be a pain, I'm just asking haha.

I can understand your point, but I think that its just one of those things where people aren't always as vocal about it. The Habbo thing is fair enough because they have 1000's of users etc, but we don't have quite that many members on each day, and I guess its just not that big of a deal since its just a userbar, but its the principle behind the fact that the community were given the vote and the majority decided and ting, It doesn't mean they care passionately about it, but some of those might have, and they chose based on what they thought looked best/would be best for the forum I guess using their judgement.

I hope I haven't used any ":P"'s in this post :'( I don't even realise im doing it half the time.

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Originally Posted by Bolt660

ikr im sorry :( I'm just trying to make you realise that I'm not moaning or trying to be a pain, I'm just asking haha.

I can understand your point, but I think that its just one of those things where people aren't always as vocal about it. The Habbo thing is fair enough because they have 1000's of users etc, but we don't have quite that many members on each day, and I guess its just not that big of a deal since its just a userbar, but its the principle behind the fact that the community were given the vote and the majority decided and ting, It doesn't mean they care passionately about it, but some of those might have, and they chose based on what they thought looked best/would be best for the forum I guess using their judgement.

I hope I haven't used any ":P"'s in this post :'( I don't even realise im doing it half the time.

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Making changes to anything can be quite big to the end users and at first they won't like it. But once they started seeing them or using the new changes then they will get used to it and their care about them being reverted back to the old userbars will become less and less. Which has been shown in this thread with people saying they have gotten used to ones that are currently enabled.

I'm not saying they won't go back - As people will just rant on about management not listening to polls blah blah blah blah blah. I'll find the old one's and put them up before the week is out or even sometime tonight.

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

Making changes to anything can be quite big to the end users and at first they won't like it. But once they started seeing them or using the new changes then they will get used to it and their care about them being reverted back to the old userbars will become less and less. Which has been shown in this thread with people saying they have gotten used to ones that are currently enabled.

I'm not saying they won't go back - As people will just rant on about management not listening to polls blah blah blah blah blah. I'll find the old one's and put them up before the week is out or even sometime tonight.

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Then maybe a poll to decide what will happen with them wasn't a good idea in the first place if thats the idea :P (people getting used to them eventually), I think it just comes back down to whether you give members the option or make the decision yourselves. Sure people threw up a stink about them, it was a pretty sudden change to something that had been in place for quite some time and people look at most days, but its just userbar at the end of the day and you then have to take that and either give in to the people moaning and put it to a vote (which was done), then honour it, or you have to be firm, tell them they will get used to it and deal with the inevitable sulking.

Of course people will tend to get used to something once they get to see it more and more and get to like it, however they obviously liked the other 4 designs that beat them in the poll more too, and I guess it just shows the wide variety of peoples opinions. The poll was only a week ago, so there was quite a bit of time for people to "get used to them", which they weren't able to with the other designs in the poll. I think one of the main things was just the way it was handled in the first place and the lack of communication/member input when for changes to little things like that its often nice for the members to have an initial say too, and I think 100 forum members wanting change is more important and more reflective than a few management members wanting change, its just nice sometimes to have a few more opinions on something before going for it and then facing such a wide variety of different opinions.


I think its all fine now really, a lot of people probably like the old ones and the new ones having got used to them, and I guess later down the line you could re-asses the publics opinion and see if they want that change to take place later in the year or something.


I can totally understand what you are saying and where you are coming from, but I think its not so helpful thinking about it now since the decisions have already been made and stuff, and the margins were quite wide in the end. :P :P :P (please dont kill me)

basically they're being lazy and just hoping people forget about them :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by mrwoooooooo

basically they're being lazy and just hoping people forget about them :rolleyes:

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Well you don't like feedback anyway so technically you shouldn't mind what happens.

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

Well you don't like feedback anyway so technically you shouldn't mind what happens.

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i dont, just makes me laugh how bad management are. forum will be dead by the end of the year because of you and chris :)

truth hurts

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Originally Posted by mrwoooooooo

i dont, just makes me laugh how bad management are. forum will be dead by the end of the year because of you and chris :)

truth hurts

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Over userbars? Don't be stupid. If it wasn't for management you wouldn't be back on the forum. It would be dead if you was in charge because you would get rid of the feedback forum and wouldn't listen to anyone at all.

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Originally Posted by mrwoooooooo

basically they're being lazy and just hoping people forget about them :rolleyes:

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It's got nothing to do with being lazy, did you even read anything thats just been said? It's been nearly a week and it's gone pretty much unnoticed until now.

Wow, a lot of discussion comes in an hour or so.

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

Well you don't like feedback anyway so technically you shouldn't mind what happens.

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This is in reply to everything in general:

I totally agree with you on the fact that people just become less bothered, it happens all the time. Changes are made, people like them or hate them. If they hate them, they ask for them to be reverted, after asking this they just forget that they asked and continue reading posts/aiming for a higher post count on the forum. Nothing has changed due to some graphics.

With that said though, feedback has been given, really, for the well-being of the forum. The current users don't really find these new user bars 'eye candy' which is why they were asked to be changed back/changed. Also, because the majority has voted against the changes it really means that most people won't like them either. User bars aren't a big deal, they're a small image with text on, but it goes for any changes really.

Not gonna lie, completely forgot what I was going on about, but you get the picture I think.

@Bolt660; you made me ignore your post because of Comic Sans MS; just thought you should know. :)

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Originally Posted by mrwoooooooo

basically they're being lazy and just hoping people forget about them :rolleyes:

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I do get this impression sometimes. With the Runescape sub forum debate, userbars, snow on the forum...

I'm sure I've read that things will be sorted out when the valentines skin is introduced, but management were quick to introduce the current userbars but not quick to change them back :P

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Originally Posted by Kardan

I do get this impression sometimes. With the Runescape sub forum debate, userbars, snow on the forum...

I'm sure I've read that things will be sorted out when the valentines skin is introduced, but management were quick to introduce the current userbars but not quick to change them back :P

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I had plans to remove winter skins and snow after Christmas but I was stopped by a number of users and stated that it's still winter.

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Originally Posted by Chris

It's got nothing to do with being lazy, did you even read anything thats just been said? It's been nearly a week and it's gone pretty much unnoticed until now.

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so like I said, were you hoping people just forgot about them completely? seems that way

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Originally Posted by mrwoooooooo

so like I said, were you hoping people just forgot about them completely? seems that way

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It's called proving a point.

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Originally Posted by xxMATTGxx

It's called proving a point.

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that management create polls for no reason?

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Originally Posted by mrwoooooooo

that management create polls for no reason?

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No that you have a negative attitude like the one you had before you was banned permanently.

Polls for no reason? Wasn't that requested by the users who complained about the new user bars. No point going on about it as the old ones were uploaded 1 hour ago. We never said they weren't coming back - There is a difference.